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spoon.ek9 08-24-2010 01:47 PM

just completely classless. how on earth do you pose for pictures at the scene of a tragedy like this? one of them appears to be smiling too.

jdmsai 08-24-2010 01:52 PM

^oh wow....are those the failed polices taking pictures in front of the bus with a smile? :mad:

TRDood 08-24-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Solo_D33A (Post 7078901)
not only those students will take a picture with smiles.....:(

What the fuck???

These are trained forces too!!! Where's the professionalism? Are they not going to remove the bus and make it a local attraction? Fucking flips (sorry for being racist)
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AznK 08-24-2010 01:53 PM

Everything about this is fuckin sad...

RIP

josel_atr 08-24-2010 01:58 PM

god damn stupid filos.

im a full flip myself but i feel horrible seeing these pics. what are they thinking?!?!?!

i thank my mom for taking me to canada and live a better life.

JoshuaWong 08-24-2010 02:01 PM

uhhh what the fuk ? they might as well dress as talibans in front of the 911 ground zero site

BlacknJean 08-24-2010 02:27 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/...5001075916.jpg

real classy guys!

Gumby 08-24-2010 02:36 PM

What the frick? Might as well make it a tourist attraction now...:rolleyes:

CP.AR 08-24-2010 02:51 PM

I'm pretty sure the HK/Chinese government is going to give the flip gov't shit for those pictures (particularly the police ones)...

It's one thing to take pictures for evidence etc...
It's another thing to take pictures of you smiling in front of a tragic site.

q0192837465 08-24-2010 03:09 PM

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1...1494543996.jpg

For those who can't read Chinese

Caption: It's safer to hide behid a shield

1 - Scared shitless
2 - Useless POS
English - Philippine Police
Example 1 - Don't be such a Philippine Police la

krazynuck 08-24-2010 03:28 PM

as im here in manila and my hotel is a short 3 min walk from where this happened i can tell u there were lots of people taking pictures of this all day with themselves posing . . . I however got the hell away from the area. . . .it was a sad day here yesterday in manila with a lot of angry hk nationals leaving the city
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CP.AR 08-24-2010 03:39 PM

^^i won't be surprised if there will actually be a new slang coming to HK in the near future... "Bun Bun ging chat"

6793026 08-24-2010 03:48 PM

People in HK are saying they will not hire anymore maids from Philippines, I highly doubt that's going to happen.

I think people taking pictures are really disrespectful but not as bad as the STUPID police for not sealing off the area. They should have tarps and have the area blocked off and treat it as a crime scene. I really do not think it is the best interest of people to be around the area.

People are being super racist right now, i was in philippines twice and I would go back. Just cause NY 911 happened, you don't see people say "do not go to NY"... this is getting out of hand.

LUUUUUUUU 08-24-2010 03:51 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11069616

wouwou 08-24-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 6793026 (Post 7079059)
People in HK are saying they will not hire anymore maids from Philippines, I highly doubt that's going to happen.

I think people taking pictures are really disrespectful but not as bad as the STUPID police for not sealing off the area. They should have tarps and have the area blocked off and treat it as a crime scene. I really do not think it is the best interest of people to be around the area.

People are being super racist right now, i was in philippines twice and I would go back. Just cause NY 911 happened, you don't see people say "do not go to NY"... this is getting out of hand.

yea, but if you look like a Muslim in an USA airport, you will feel "special" even a few years after 911.

TRDood 08-24-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6793026 (Post 7079059)
People in HK are saying they will not hire anymore maids from Philippines, I highly doubt that's going to happen.

I think people taking pictures are really disrespectful but not as bad as the STUPID police for not sealing off the area. They should have tarps and have the area blocked off and treat it as a crime scene. I really do not think it is the best interest of people to be around the area.

People are being super racist right now, i was in philippines twice and I would go back. Just cause NY 911 happened, you don't see people say "do not go to NY"... this is getting out of hand.

Actually, Honger families are turning to Indonesian maids. Both of my grandmas have them because they can communicate in chinese (some) and hongers say that they are more obedient (dumber/simple minded). I don't know if that's true though.

Nonetheless, my grandma had her flip maid fired last year because she was being a total bitch.
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JSilver 08-24-2010 05:30 PM

There's so much direct racism on this thread its amazing.

I'm Filippino myself, and this almost makes me embarrassed to say that I am because of the dumb asses who couldn't do things right during the incident.

RIP

Ulic Qel-Droma 08-24-2010 06:40 PM

man.

first of all, people posing with the bus is no different than a hunter posing with his prey. or a soldier posing with whatever (enemy, blown up tank etc). It was probably the most exciting/only thing they've ever done in their careers. whatever.

second of all... shit man. after he shot the first guy in the bus... i mean, he's one guy with an m16. I know it sounds ballsy, but after one guy gets shot, you know you or someone else on the bus might get shot next. As the gunman walked by i woulda grabbed his m16 and just pointed it upwards, the m16 is a long rifle, you'll have plenty of torque if you grab it near the "front". 1-2 other people could have easily subdue him by tackling him, or like grabbing his eyes, throat whatever you can and just taking him down, then throw the rifle out the busted window or shoot him first then throw it out. done.

that woulda been my plan, and i woulda fuckin did it, cuz i'd rather take a chance than die. and I sure as hell woulda hoped someone else on the bus woulda taken a fucking hint as i was struggling with the gunman to come and fuckin grab the gun as well or grab him.

fuck man.

the cops fucked up. but the people inside could have saved themselves if they just took a little initiative. fuck ESPECIALLY after one guy was already killed, i woulda become a fucking martyr. my mission would be to fucking aim the rifle in another direction and not fucking let go till he expends all his rounds or try to pull the magazine out or whatever. i wouldn't of let go even if he was gouging my fucking eye out i don't care. fuck it if i get mortally wounded in the process at least i saved everyone else. man for real im so pissed no one on the bus grabbed his rifle or at least tried. but now that I think about it, maybe no one else on the bus would have got up to help at all. what a fucking sad world.

before any of you flame me, let me tell you, ive handled m16 variants for over 8 years, i KNOW anyone that tried could have made him point the rifle in another direction if they just fucking TRIED instead of sitting there. reminds me of 911, at least the passengers of one plane decided to take action.

martyrdom can be used in a positive way as well.

wouwou 08-24-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 7079224)
man.

first of all, people posing with the bus is no different than a hunter posing with his prey. or a soldier posing with whatever (enemy, blown up tank etc). It was probably the most exciting/only thing they've ever done in their careers. whatever.

second of all... shit man. after he shot the first guy in the bus... i mean, he's one guy with an m16. I know it sounds ballsy, but after one guy gets shot, you know you or someone else on the bus might get shot next. As the gunman walked by i woulda grabbed his m16 and just pointed it upwards, the m16 is a long rifle, you'll have plenty of torque if you grab it near the "front". 1-2 other people could have easily subdue him by tackling him, or like grabbing his eyes, throat whatever you can and just taking him down, then throw the rifle out the busted window or shoot him first then throw it out. done.

that woulda been my plan, and i woulda fuckin did it, cuz i'd rather take a chance than die. and I sure as hell woulda hoped someone else on the bus woulda taken a fucking hint as i was struggling with the gunman to come and fuckin grab the gun as well or grab him.

fuck man.

the cops fucked up. but the people inside could have saved themselves if they just took a little initiative. fuck ESPECIALLY after one guy was already killed, i woulda become a martyr fuck it if i get mortally wounded in the process at least i saved everyone else. man for real im so pissed no one on the bus grabbed his rifle.

before any of you flame me, let me tell you, ive handled m16 variants for over 8 years, i KNOW anyone that tried could have made him point the rifle in another direction if they just fucking TRIED instead of sitting there. reminds me of 911, at least the passengers of one plane decided to take action.

martyrdom can be used in a positive way as well.

some random HK C-Lai with her husband, and kids against a trained officer with a M-16.

Yeah, I don't think so.

Ulic Qel-Droma 08-24-2010 06:56 PM

dude, i don't care. a kid probably wouldn't of done anything. but even a middle aged man that "ran to block the bullets" woulda been smart enough to get up and help if someone else was struggling.

trained officer my ass. trained in what way? someone has two hands near the front of a long rifle, has more torque than you have over the rifle unless you're holding the other end the same way. a fuckin C-lai can even help during the struggle, just grab ontop him and start biting, start clawing, fuck anything. the man's power is in that rifle, which coulda been taken away or disabled if someone had enough courage.

and like i said, maybe not at first, but after someone else gets shot, you can be the type that becomes a coward or a martyr, cuz under both options means your death, i'd choose martyr anyday.

SkinnyPupp 08-24-2010 07:07 PM

Blaming poorly trained police force is one thing, but blaming the hostages? What the fuck is wrong with you?

Solo_D33A 08-24-2010 07:10 PM

how would you know when you're on the bus traumatized that he does not have any other weapon?

Ulic Qel-Droma 08-24-2010 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7079245)
Blaming poorly trained police force is one thing, but blaming the hostages? What the fuck is wrong with you?

i'm not blaming them for the incident, but you cannot put 100% blame on the police.

police are here to protect and serve you, yes, but you have to protect and serve yourself as well.

i aint gonna sit there and put all hope on the police, neither should they.

I'm not blaming them for anything, i'm just saying, if any physically fit man survived the incident, or if I survived that incident, and didn't do anything about it at all, i would live a life full of fucking regret.

WOULDNT YOU?


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Originally Posted by Solo_D33A (Post 7079249)
how would you know when you're on the bus traumatized that he does not have any other weapon?

I wouldn't be that traumatized, half my brain would be in shock, half of it would be racing trying to figure out how to get out or how to make my plan work. for real. i wouldn't care if he had a knife or another gun. i told you, martyrdom. I would have TRIED to do something no matter what.
if he had another weapon it would have to be small to be concealed on him. a knife? another small hand gun? ok whatever, i woulda still tried to grab the fucking rifle. and i sure god fucking damn hope that if anyone of you guys were on the bus with me, you would have tried to help me take him down as soon as you saw me struggling.

seriously. the only guy that did anything was the dude that ran down the aisle to block the bullets. and that was probably a split second last decision of his life. if only there were 2 people like him on the bus.


C'MON ppl. yeah yeah bashing the cops, we can all do that, we already know the cops totally fucked up. BUT DONT ANY OF YOU WONDER -WHAT THE FUCK- is going on in the hostages heads? or if ANYONE of you were on the bus, wouldn't you of TRIED? or at least HELPED someone who TRIED?

you guys can blame the cops all you want, but when the day comes where we're in a similar situation, i sure as hell hope im not in the same room with you while you just cower in the corner. and i sure as hell hope if someone with you decides to do something, you have the the balls to get up and help after someone else has taken initiative.

there's gotta be at least 1 person on revscene who isnt a complete fucking coward. i'm not BLAMING the god damn hostages. if anyone's to blame, it's the hostage taker, not even the police, the police coulda done worse. 100% of the victims could have died.

please tell me one of you sees where i'm coming from.

wouwou 08-24-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma (Post 7079238)
dude, i don't care. a kid probably wouldn't of done anything. but even a middle aged man that "ran to block the bullets" woulda been smart enough to get up and help if someone else was struggling.

trained officer my ass. trained in what way? someone has two hands near the front of a long rifle, has more torque than you have over the rifle unless you're holding the other end the same way. a fuckin C-lai can even help during the struggle, just grab ontop him and start biting, start clawing, fuck anything. the man's power is in that rifle, which coulda been taken away or disabled if someone had enough courage.

and like i said, maybe not at first, but after someone else gets shot, you can be the type that becomes a coward or a martyr, cuz under both options means your death, i'd choose martyr anyday.

According to the news, the gunman pointed the gun at the hostages from a distance, and forced them to the back of the bus.

good luck fighting the guy after the 1st guy died.

ecchiecchi 08-24-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wouwou (Post 7079253)
According to the news, the gunman pointed the gun at the hostages from a distance, and forced them to the back of the bus.

good luck fighting the guy after the 1st guy died.

Apple News shows them to be sitting in their respective seats.


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