I understood the rest of his post just fine. You re-read his last sentence: it appears to be drawing a conclusion that all is said and done and has failed.

Or maybe my Engrish just isn't that good. :nyan:

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I went back and edited it, my final sentence wasn't clear.

I think the route will be successful; I define success as it saving an average of greater than five minutes per hour by offering a more direct path to destinations. Companies would therefore use the route whether tolled or un-tolled, because the difference would only be the degree of savings. That means the result of not tolling is giving away $3 billion dollars in free access, a sort of stimulus to the container truck driving industry. Giving away $3 billion dollars to truckers is a mistake, because the economy would benefit more significantly by investing it elsewhere; such as a project which cannot so easily re-coup funds, like transit expansions.

While I'm posting in this thread...

Whoever designed the 176th westbound exit is fucking special, short bus special. They could of built a roundabout, or stuck with the tried and true design. They didn't do that though. They designed it so a light stops traffic northbound, drivers turn left, and immediately merge into busy, truck heavy southbound traffic; how the fuck is that intelligent or even safe? At least the view while you sit at the light is nice, because that totally compensates for the terrible design that makes me fear for my life. All of 176th is equally terrible, Barnston is no longer accessible from 176th either.

Did you guys really notice a huge difference?

I take the Patullo to/fro work, from Coquitlam, down 8th and onto McBride Blvd, and go to Scott Road, and vice-versa.

I didn't notice anything huge in the last 3 days...

but maybe people are using the Port Mann for their first 10 trips and then the Patullo after...

From watching and listening to the traffic reports this week so far, it sounds like the Patullo is seeing a SLIGHT increase in traffic, but on the whole, nothing really substantial.

One thing, I see people noting that some of the usual trouble spots are still bad - Burnaby Lake, etc. - and that's to be expected because there's still a lot of construction there. What I HAVE ALSO noticed though, since I work in trades and drive all over the region at all times of day, is that there's not the ALL-DAY crunch through the Burnaby/Coquitlam stretch. It bogs down again during rush hour, though usually not quite as bad... but outside rush hour things tend to be noticeably better.

Then again, we're only a couple weeks into the new bridge, and there are definitely variations in traffic patterns over the course of a month.

Fair'nuff.

Just thinking about the amount of truck traffic this should divert from Stewardson/Front St./Columbia - I can see some of those trucks cutting their travel time by half or more. It will also make those routes a lot more efficient for regular traffic that needs to get to points in between.

I wish I knew what happened to the good ol' cloverleaf... they've worked fine for decades especially all over the US Interstates, keeping on/off traffic moving smoothly without interruption in ALL directions.

I went into the Treo office to reg. and get decals on the last day. Now I just got another set of decals in the mail. I guess I can just toss these out since my decals and plates are already sync'd?

So who got caught in that huge ass multiple vehicle accident this morning? Happened around Brunette west bound at around 7am. Didn't see what really happened because I got off Brunette and took Lougheed on the way to school.

I did notice that when I was going to the other building(thankfully, there is a back way that avoids Royal) that it was 3pm and traffic was lined up to 8th street on Royal. Certainly was not a scientific poll of current traffic trends by any means.

It seemed early and it seemed like a lot more cars. I didn't listen for a stall or anything as I wasn't wanting to go over the bridge.

Do any of you guys get text messages from that "pay by phone port mann tolling"?
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Placed the decal to the right of the stem of my mirror and above my dash cam.

The bridge was able to communicate with my decal.

:notbad:

That's roughly where I have mine. BTW, how does one know the decal has worked?

I have an Escort 9500iX radar detector and the laser alert comes on maybe 1 time out of 8 or so. I'm thinking maybe the laser just helps with guiding/adjusting the cameras. I have no idea how it all works.

Check your TReO account
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:werd:

True..........

that means I have to leave RS for a few seconds, LOLOLOLOLOL

we'll miss you. come back soon and share tales of your adventure!

so weird just checked Treo and shows that half of my charges went though my sticker and my plate. Hopefully it doesn't screw me up down the road.

^^^
Did you click view all tolls? I thought I was missing some, but found out it only shows the last 3, or something.

ROR

I thought this thread was about tolls, not trolls. LOLOLOLOLOL

OK, tried to log on and it seems the web site is temporarily down, so I called the toll free number. Nice lady on other end told me everything was fine and that my decal works as it should. While I was on the phone, I made sure my account was "e-mail bill" and not "mail me bill". Not a factor till April, but I didn't want to forget and get charged extra for having bill sent through the mail.

hmmm

did someone overlook this in the design of the bridge......

Port Mann Bridge closed indefinitely | News1130
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^That article says they're having the same problem now on the Alex Fraser, and it's been there for 20 years, apparently without this happening before.

Mix of rain/snow/rain/ice probably

Although it could be just idiots phoning in over small shit hitting their car
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Found this pic in the link on News1130