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Old 01-14-2011, 12:33 PM   #176
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So because someone has money, its OK to force them to lose money on their devalued property? Easy for you to say as its not your money. One million dollars for a property, most people will never be able to afford that in a lifetime. With canadian wages as depressed as they are and tax rates so high, most people will make under 2 million in their lifetime (before tax).

Just because you've never heard of it devaluing a property does not mean it does not happen.

I would not complain if the rules in the contract allow UBC to build whatever on their land (which I would have researched before buying). If not, I would join up with the other owners and sue UBC if my property loss was a significant amount of value and move out if it bothered me that much. I personally am not superstitious about the hospice, and am definitely more understanding about what the people are going through, but I do care about the value and I would feel cheated if UBC did not do any consultations with condo owners beforehand.
On the same coin, just because they say the property will be devalued, doesn't mean it actually will be. Speaking of losing money, my family has lost money on property due to actions of the state, and it certainly pisses me off still. In our case, we can prove that the actions have caused us to lose money, but what about in their case? Bet if they can prove there is a devaluation, they might be able to sue for compensation; however, putting superstitions in the mix is not a good way to get people on your side.
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Simple question.. If one gonna build a whorehouse beside ur kids' school, would you bring ur kids to another school? Not like the kids gona see anything going on next door but is the influence that do harm.

As an aisan I won't want to live anywhere near hospital, hospice, cemetery or anything like that. You can call me superstitious or bs or anything you want but that's how we asian are. I think the topics states people protesting and i guess most of those protesters are asians as well? And most here are judging them from a western POV? that's not fair? I just like me saying all those Christians praying to a dead man pinned on a cross and waste your sunday morning is stupid (no offence). But that's exactly what most people here are saying. We asians are superstitious you like it or not and now we paid so much to buy a nice house and you build something against our value or course the asians are gonna be pissed. Put yourself in their shoes. The problem here is not whether being superstitious is right or not. The problem is that UBC have not consider the opinions of house owners of the area and built something that would offend a percentage of the owners. I dont agree with people who said this is canada and people should live the canadian way of life and UBC dont need to consider their feeling. Vancouver is a muticultural city and authorities should consider everyone's value be it Chinese, Indian or whites.
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how the fuck can you misspell fucking asian wrong.
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As an aisan I won't want to live anywhere near hospital, hospice, cemetery or anything like that.
Why arnt they telling ubc to get rid of the hospital too then
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Simple question.. If one gonna build a whorehouse beside ur kids' school, would you bring ur kids to another school? Not like the kids gona see anything going on next door but is the influence that do harm.

As an aisan I won't want to live anywhere near hospital, hospice, cemetery or anything like that. You can call me superstitious or bs or anything you want but that's how we asian are. I think the topics states people protesting and i guess most of those protesters are asians as well? And most here are judging them from a western POV? that's not fair? I just like me saying all those Christians praying to a dead man pinned on a cross and waste your sunday morning is stupid (no offence). But that's exactly what most people here are saying. We asians are superstitious you like it or not and now we paid so much to buy a nice house and you build something against our value or course the asians are gonna be pissed. Put yourself in their shoes. The problem here is not whether being superstitious is right or not. The problem is that UBC have not consider the opinions of house owners of the area and built something that would offend a percentage of the owners. I dont agree with people who said this is canada and people should live the canadian way of life and UBC dont need to consider their feeling. Vancouver is a muticultural city and authorities should consider everyone's value be it Chinese, Indian or whites.
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hmm just look at all the places selling those paper products to burn for the dead or all those little temples creamation places etc etc in Hong Kong, etc right under next to their million dollar apartments people deal with it.
you know what happens when people bitch to the developer etc when one of those places is built in HK etc? they get told to fuck off

put a little octagon mirror on the entrance to the apartment if they're going to be crazy about it


buncha fuckin drama queens


and to compare a hospice with a whore house?? what the fuck is wrong with you??? and why would i bring my kids to another school when i can call the cops and have them shut it down? full of fail



and a hospice isn't a morgue or anything like that that's just so inconsiderate and rude to suggest consider it more in line with a hospital / seniors home

Id hate to be related to any of those crying, if i was their elder, id be worried about my future since they'd likely be too scared to look after me

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put a little octagon mirror on the entrance to the apartment if they're going to be crazy about it
I assume its part of Asian superstition, but whats the little octagon mirror do?
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it reflects negative energy back so essentially it'll keep all the bad stuff out of the apartment complex
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it reflects negative energy back so essentially it'll keep all the bad stuff out of the apartment complex
Problem solved, I'll drop one off for them tomorrow so they can
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how the fuck can you misspell fucking asian wrong.
by typing too fast that the i come before the s? you have a problem with that?
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you know what happens when people bitch to the developer etc when one of those places is built in HK etc? they get told to fuck off

put a little octagon mirror on the entrance to the apartment if they're going to be crazy about it


buncha fuckin drama queens


and to compare a hospice with a whore house?? what the fuck is wrong with you??? and why would i bring my kids to another school when i can call the cops and have them shut it down? full of fail



and a hospice isn't a morgue or anything like that that's just so inconsiderate and rude to suggest consider it more in line with a hospital / seniors home

Id hate to be related to any of those crying, if i was their elder, id be worried about my future since they'd likely be too scared to look after me
FYI, do you know how many questionnaires and survey and application and paper work developers have to go through before you can build something simple as a elder homes in a residental estate, let alone a high end real estate. Its more like the land owners and government tell the developers to eff off and not the other way round.
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And honestly, if I am so sick and dying, and I am gona die any time soon, why the heck would I want to stay in a hospice? I'd rather stay home and die there.
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Probably because you can't live on your own and can't afford a private nursing staff.
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And honestly, if I am so sick and dying, and I am gona die any time soon, why the heck would I want to stay in a hospice? I'd rather stay home and die there.
because all your family are afraid of death etc because its unlucky and they throw your ass out
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Hospice or home?

I want to die in a whorehouse.
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You know, if you're open to trying to read what he's trying to say instead of how he's saying it, he actually has a point. Read this (his ESL is perfectly legible if you've passed grade 12):

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And most here are judging them from a western POV? that's not fair? I just like me saying all those Christians praying to a dead man pinned on a cross and waste your sunday morning is stupid (no offence).
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I dont agree with people who said this is canada and people should live the canadian way of life and UBC dont need to consider their feeling. Vancouver is a muticultural city and authorities should consider everyone's value be it Chinese, Indian or whites.
Think about it.. he's seen two cultures with really different belief systems whereas most of you have only lived through one. No, multicultural Vancouver doesn't count.. it tends to wash everything down to a happy medium to make everything work.

Like it or not, the world is huge and there are ppl who grow up with beliefs that originate from more fucked up times and who aren't willing to move from them. What would happen if you tried to be noble and built a hospice in Asia next to rich folk at a University? You'd be writing posts with shitty grammar on RS-Asia saying how great it would be for families of the dying and everybody would think this fuckin idiot might as well build a whorehouse.

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Nobody is forcing them to stay, they can always sell and move in the wake of not wanting to live next to sick people. I'd much rather have a hospice then a halfway house near me. I hope they ram it down their throats and don't give a fuck what they think just cause it would be funny.
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how is this thread still going on?? i thought it was a fairly subjective thing...... protesters gonna protest, developers gonna develop, thats that


only on RS can such a small thing turn into a big racial extravaganza hahah
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Nobody is forcing them to stay, they can always sell and move in the wake of not wanting to live next to sick people. I'd much rather have a hospice then a halfway house near me. I hope they ram it down their throats and don't give a fuck what they think just cause it would be funny.
let me build a oil rig beside your house.. if you don't like it, you can leave.

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ooh i'm sorry it effects you because you can't stand the oil and the skyscraper tower beside your house? too bad lemme ram it down your throat
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Think about it.. he's seen two cultures with really different belief systems whereas most of you have only lived through one. No, multicultural Vancouver doesn't count.. it tends to wash everything down to a happy medium to make everything work.
are you new to RS??? it says 2004 but it sounds like you're new because you'd realize that like 99% of us are multicultural and grew up influenced by other clutures other than Canadas multiculturalism

you fall into the group that always goes too far when it comes to political correctness
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how is this thread still going on?? i thought it was a fairly subjective thing...... protesters gonna protest, developers gonna develop, thats that


only on RS can such a small thing turn into a big racial extravaganza hahah

its on going because theres alot of ppl here that doesn't understand this is more then a culture disagreement.

and alot here just have the view point of ... if you don't like it you can GTFO attitude. they make it sound like they wouldn't mind living in a Hospice and that its only Asians that have this fear of of the dieing and theres going to be no decrease in value whatsoever..

what they fail to realize is .. theres is a close to a majority of Asians in Vancouver so if this is actually an Asian culture superstition then no shit theres going to be a decrease in value because there is ALOT of Asians in Vancouver that won't buy it
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only on RS can such a small thing turn into a big racial extravaganza hahah
Well, actually, the people who live there turned it into a racial extravaganza. If they had just went and bitched that it would kill the land values because nobody wants to live near a place where there is so much sorrow, people would have been much more sympathetic. Better luck next time for them.

Edit: Can someone post proof that houses next to hospices actually reduce land values? Because otherwise, your argument is flawed and makes you look stupid. Whorehouses will kill land values. So would an oil rig (not that you can technically build one in a city, lol, but whatever). That has been documented. What about hospices?
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Well, actually, the people who live there turned it into a racial extravaganza. If they had just went and bitched that it would kill the land values because nobody wants to live near a place where there is so much sorrow, people would have been much more sympathetic. Better luck next time for them.

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And that's the whole point for a lot of people. I get what they are saying, but when they said it's bad luck for chinese yada yada yada, people just turned on them. If they had just bitched about it in a, well, non-racial way, there would be no issue. They said it was superstitions first, land values second, and since nobody really gives a fuck about your superstitions, well... There you have it.
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Well, actually, the people who live there turned it into a racial extravaganza. If they had just went and bitched that it would kill the land values because nobody wants to live near a place where there is so much sorrow, people would have been much more sympathetic. Better luck next time for them.

Edit: Can someone post proof that houses next to hospices actually reduce land values? Because otherwise, your argument is flawed and makes you look stupid. Whorehouses will kill land values. So would an oil rig (not that you can technically build one in a city, lol, but whatever). That has been documented. What about hospices?
The first part of your post is probably the closest thing to a unanimously agreeable statement I've ever seen on any forum.

The second part, did you see the post a few pages back where someone put time into a fairly well supported post about the potential decrease in land values?
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