Ghosts scare UBC asians

[Manic!]

Anyone want to dress up like a ghost and run around the building as I try to low ball the owners?

[Meowjin]

sounds like a scooby doo episode.

[boogabooga]

Build it!

[Meowjin]

am I the only one that thinks they should tear down the fucking endownment lands and keep developing vancouver?

[Nightwalker]

Originally Posted by Manic!

Anyone want to dress up like a ghost and run around the building as I try to low ball the owners?

[Anjew]

Originally Posted by slammer111

They're more than welcome to move out. I'm sure a ton of non-Chiners would jump all over the deals that pop up, myself included. (and I'm Chinese)

thats the real problem isnt it... the fact that the places will be "deals" for the next group of purchasers which isnt fair for them... but after watching that news segment i just want "lin" to go get a fucking clue and get raped by ghosts.

walk outside to a graveyard? how fucking disrespectful can that bitch be.

they just had to hunt down the most retarded asians and put them in their segment didnt they.....

[Culverin]

Originally Posted by Anjew

thats the real problem isnt it... the fact that the places will be "deals" for the next group of purchasers which isnt fair for them...

I'm confused, unfair to whom?

The people getting the deals?
Or
the dumbass ignorant rich that bitched and complained?

[misteranswer]

Originally Posted by Lomac

It doesn't mean that the actual value of the house decreases.

Are you a communist or something?

[Lomac]

Originally Posted by misteranswer

Are you a communist or something?

WTF is that supposed to mean? The property assessment isn't going to be any different based on ones cultural values.
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[Ferra]

Originally Posted by Culverin

I'm confused, unfair to whom?

The people getting the deals?
Or
the dumbass ignorant rich that bitched and complained?

Unfair to the original owner??? New buyer gets a good deal = original owner lost value on its property.

People who said "driving away the asian buyer is not a problem because there are always other buyers who want the units" are retarded.
The asian buyers represent the largest buying group in that community and are usually the ones able to afford and willing to pay the most for a given property.
Your House is worth as much as what the top buyer is willing to pay.
If no asian wants those houses, there is no doubt the selling price of the property is going to go down.
Lower demand = lower price

[Ferra]

I see this whole thing is no different than government building a penitentiary or power plant near your home..We as a society all need these facilities, and the government decide to build it next to your house because research suggests the site is the best location for the society as a whole.

If you are the homeowner, are you going to just say: "too bad, our society needs that nuclear power plant or prison and having it next to my house is the best option for the society...I am just going to accept it as such."

And statistically, the chance of you getting physically harmed from prison escapee or from a malfunctioned nuclear power plant is practically zero...
So in theory, people shouldn't worry about having a nuclear plant or prison next to their house.....or do they??

[adambomb]

^^ That's almost as dumb as the oil rig analogy!!

A penetentiary or power plant doesn't nearly make as much noise or pollution as a hospice. You can't seriously be considering that living beside industrial plants is the same as living beside something that resembles a 15 bedroom mansion.

Get a fucking clue.

[dbaz]

Personally I wouldnt worry about either being beside my house because
A) nuclear stuff is not allowed in vancouver (remember the old welcome to vancouver sign on knight street? Vancouver, nuclear free)and
B) prisons are usually built with a vacant area around them, its developers who build beside them.
Both of these can be very dangerous to a community are you trying to hint that a hospice is a danger to the community? Are you afraid someone with leprosy will run out of the hospice and start touching everyone? Or that the immediate area around the hospice will automatically contract the plague? If you are going to compare it to something, compare it to something similar.

[Ferra]

Originally Posted by dbaz

Personally I wouldnt worry about either being beside my house because
A) nuclear stuff is not allowed in vancouver (remember the old welcome to vancouver sign on knight street? Vancouver, nuclear free)and
B) prisons are usually built with a vacant area around them, its developers who build beside them.
Both of these can be very dangerous to a community are you trying to hint that a hospice is a danger to the community? Are you afraid someone with leprosy will run out of the hospice and start touching everyone? Or that the immediate area around the hospice will automatically contract the plague? If you are going to compare it to something, compare it to something similar.

the point I am trying to say is, statistically, your chance of getting physically harmed from having a nuclear plant or prison near your home is about the same as having a ghost knock on your door at night.

it is all just a matter of different conceptions, not scientific difference.

[Ferra]

Originally Posted by adambomb

^^ That's almost as dumb as the oil rig analogy!!

A penetentiary or power plant doesn't nearly make as much noise or pollution as a hospice. You can't seriously be considering that living beside industrial plants is the same as living beside something that resembles a 15 bedroom mansion.

Get a fucking clue.

I think you want to say a hospice doesn't make nearly as much noise or pollution as a penitentiary or nuclear plant.

ask yourself this, are you okay with a prison or power plant near your home if they don't make any noise or pollution that affect you?

[adambomb]

You're right, got my grammar all fucked up.


Yea, i'm ok with it as long as it doesn't make any noise. But, guess what, Power plants make lots of noise and pollution!!

A hospice, again, is like a 15 bedroom mansion. Do you really feel a hospice can make as much noise as a power plant or penitentiary?


They don't compare. Do you not compute?

[Jsunu]

Originally Posted by Ferra

I think you want to say a hospice doesn't make nearly as much noise or pollution as a penitentiary or nuclear plant.

ask yourself this, are you okay with a prison or power plant near your home if they don't make any noise or pollution that affect you?

I think what he is trying to say is not to make comparisons differ in such as way. This is probably why he was arguing with you despite the fact that you may actually share the same viewpoint.

[MindBomber]

The idea that the property value will decrease as a result of the hospice is pure speculation, some of us may be joking about low balling the owners because their desperate to get away from ghosts, but in reality I doubt the owners will lose any money.

[misteranswer]

Originally Posted by Lomac

WTF is that supposed to mean? The property assessment isn't going to be any different based on ones cultural values.
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Well in my world, the market determines the price. I don't care if some government agencies or expert tells me it's worth so and so. How much something is worth, is as much as the amount the next sucker is willing to give me for it.

[Anjew]

^^^^ Exactamundo!

lots of Asians will have the same issue similar to these retarded owners but not to the same degree and retardedness. Resellability is one of the major factors when purchasing a home. To discount asians as prospective buyers for your home is shooting yourself on the foot. obviously was an ignorant comment by a non home owner.

some of you refer to the noise from a hospice like the noise from a skytrain. Thats ignorant as fuck.

this thread is pissing me off...

[StylinRed]

wow i wonder how much those apartments in Hong Kong would be worth if there wasn't a cemetery in their backyard... that you can see from the living room den... you know the ones that cost around $4-5 millionCAD and that's all the way in pao-ma-di

yea a couple of whackos aren't going to affect the price... at least they weren't now that they've made this into an international incident you can be sure the next asians who buy the place are going to be hella opportunistic and use it against them

[Lomac]

Originally Posted by misteranswer

Well in my world, the market determines the price. I don't care if some government agencies or expert tells me it's worth so and so. How much something is worth, is as much as the amount the next sucker is willing to give me for it.

My house sits next door to an outdoor gun range. It's hard to fathom that if something like that hasn't impacted my neighbors attempts at selling houses, a hospice would. The three houses on my block that were for sale over the past year brought in record numbers for my neighborhood.

That's my point.
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[Carl Johnson]

First of all let's just cut the ghost superstition and feng shui bullshit here. The fact we are talking about this issue is because the perceived value of the property went down. This whole thing is about money not some ghosts coming through the windows at night.

The condo owners need to understand that when you buy a property to live or to invest there are risks associated with it. It is your responsibility to do proper and in-depth due diligence before pulling the trigger on a million dollar property. Can all of us really say that nobody in that condo would have saw this coming 6 months and 1 year ago? From the reports I've read this hospice project has been in the pipeline for quite awhile. Definitely not something came out of nowhere.

As an Asian myself, I always thought showing respect to old people is part of our identify. The two ladies on TV are talking about old people like they are already in the grave. Everyone will get old and die. One day you will come to the end of your turn and make space for the younger generation. Accept that simple truth.

[goo3]

Originally Posted by Lomac

My house sits next door to an outdoor gun range. It's hard to fathom that if something like that hasn't impacted my neighbors attempts at selling houses, a hospice would. The three houses on my block that were for sale over the past year brought in record numbers for my neighborhood.

That's my point.
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Market value isn't known until you find a buyer or you draw from a list of comparables.

1. The UBC study gave you empirical evidence that superstition affects the average selling price in areas > 18% Chinese pop. Your unrelated and uncontrolled anecdotal sample of three pales in comparison to this. The paper's 10 pgs of reading. Not a bad idea to read it.
2. Ghosts = superstition.
3. From what the news says, 80% of buyers in the building are Asian
4. WUT!

Although it's possible their prices won't be affected, confidently saying the hospice will have no negative effect shows your bias.

Clearly, stubbornness and emotion are clouding ppl's judgment in this thread.

[willcls]

show up dressed like this