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My question to you is how would a cyclist know this without taking some type of test?
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Originally Posted by Soundy
Beg to differ: cycling on the public streets isn't illegal, BUT OBSTRUCTING OTHER TRAFFIC IS. Cyclists are required to adhere to the same rules of the road as cars, and that includes NOT intentionally getting in the way of other users of the roads.
even though i bike more than i drive, this brings me joy. I have no sympathy for attention whores like critical mass or the assholes that hold up traffic for a whole day because they want to jump off a bridge.
if i ever meet that driver, i'd shake his hand. the critical mass douchebags can go fuck themselves
This.
Look, this has nothing to do with whether cyclists should use the road, how they should share the road, bike lanes, environmentalism, or any other meaningful cause. Critical Mass have an unstated agenda to be douchebags and fuck with traffic for no other purpose than to be shit disturbers. It may not have started that way, but in many cities, that's what it's devolved into.
They want to be assholes, they shouldn't be surprised when the drivers they're intentionally disrupting, respond like assholes. You punch a guy in a bar, you can expect to get punched back - just because you're a 98-pound stickman and he's built like a brick shithouse, doesn't exempt from the laws of cause and effect.
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Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?"
Of course not, no-one deserves what this driver did.
My mama taught me an important lesson: if you poke an animal often enough, it may strike back. These people obviously did not have mamas as smart as mine.
Yes you are right. They got what was coming I guess. My comment wasn't directed at you specifically, just the morons who think anyone "deserves" to have their life taken away (thankfully that didn't happen) or MAIMED for merely INCONVENIENCING others for 10 minutes.
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Originally Posted by goo3
You mean like a ticket? That would be wonderful.
Well my point when I said the punishment should fit the crime is that nobody deserves to get RUN OVER and potentially KILLED when their crime was simply INCONVENIENCING others.
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Originally Posted by 1exotic
lol at all you trying to protect the bikers.
why am I not surprised you were the only one who failed my previous post?
Most of us who seem to be siding with the bikers (we're not) are simply saying attempted murder isn't deserved when the fucking crime was simply inconveniencing others for 10minutes. Thankfully you don't run this country, otherwise with your hotheaded attitude and anger management problems you would probably give the death sentence to someone who cut in front of you in line at KFC.
There are 365 days/year and approx 260 working days. You do the math and tell me just how many days of the year you were blocked for 10 minutes by CM. Reading about other peoples' stories makes it seem worse doesn't it? But that doesn't mean it is worse when you think about how YOU were affected.
I was blocked for 10 minutes due to critical mass last year too in downtown....once. Lasted about 10 minutes and I was on my way again. Just shut off my engine and bitched about them with my gf
Again, NOBODY is siding with bikers. I don't think anyone here actually supports Critical Mass. We definitely don't support Critical Mass attempted Murder though.
Last edited by Oleophobic; 02-28-2011 at 07:54 AM.
There's a big difference between going about your daily routine and inadvertently inconveniencing others, and setting out to INTENTIONALLY DISRUPT as many people as possible.
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Originally Posted by Brianrietta
Not a sebberry post goes by where I don't frown and think to myself "so..?"
What if someone was rushing to the hospital to be at their dying parent's bedside, and these fucks are in the way? Inconveniencing my ass.
Intentionally disrupting the otherwise reasonable flow of traffic is an offense. The following should not only apply to motor vehicles, but to any other mode of transportation that shares the roadway:
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"No motor vehicle shall be driven on a highway at such a slow rate of speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic thereon except when the slow rate of speed is necessary for safe operation having regard to all the circumstances."
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No matter how annoying or stupid people get, only someone messed in the head with no regard for human life would commit an action that could easily paralyze or kill.
It's disturbing that this thread is full of people cheering on the guy.
Why should I give a shit about people that are intentionally trying to fuck shit up for a bunch of other people? If they don't respect others why should I respect them?
Cities that have mainly bikes as transport in the EU such as Amsterdam managed to build around the bike lanes, even going as far as giving cyclists a bit of the right of way in concentrated areas. Vancouver forced the implementation of the bike lanes and caused hell with traffic patterns.
One of the larger differences though is that many of those old European cities were never really designed for cars, and the car-ness was sort of...thrown in and patched together. They were designed to carry many people-sized vehicles though, which has made the pedestrian and bike integration much easier. In cities which were designed for cars from the get-go...not such an easy process.
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Originally Posted by Soundy
Beg to differ: cycling on the public streets isn't illegal, BUT OBSTRUCTING OTHER TRAFFIC IS. Cyclists are required to adhere to the same rules of the road as cars, and that includes NOT intentionally getting in the way of other users of the roads.
By "what they're doing" I don't mean Critical Mass, I mean bicycling in general. While smoking pot is illegal regardless, there are legal methods of bicycling. In that way, they have even more reason to follow the law--what they WANT TO DO (ie: use bicycles to commute) is already legal.
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Originally Posted by Death2Theft
My question to you is how would a cyclist know this without taking some type of test?
This is one of those reasons why I feel we need some kind of licensing system, or at least education. When I was a kid, I took a class in elementary about bike and rollerblade safety including hand signs and right-of-way and all that. I don't think the same thing happens now anymore, and without that we have lots of people who don't even know they are supposed to have hand signs.
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Originally Posted by marc0lishuz
Inconveniencing?
What if someone was rushing to the hospital to be at their dying parent's bedside, and these fucks are in the way? Inconveniencing my ass.
Intentionally disrupting the otherwise reasonable flow of traffic is an offense. The following should not only apply to motor vehicles, but to any other mode of transportation that shares the roadway:
And this is one of those reasons that I detest Critical Mass. If an ambulance hasn't already had to fight through CM, it would greatly surprise me. It's the massive public disruptions that bother me.
So, basically, everyone who says they understand drivers acting like assholes when provoked (and condone what this guy did) should also understand when cyclists act like assholes when provoked, and condone the vandalism of cars.
So, basically, everyone who says they understand drivers acting like assholes when provoked (and condone what this guy did) should also understand when cyclists act like assholes when provoked, and condone the vandalism of cars.
... the sides of the same coin.
Why can't we all just chill out?
Not the same at all.
Cyclists vandalize cars merely cause the car exist. Not cause the cars actively provoked them, or cause the cars committed an illegal act. I don't run over cyclists merely cause they exist, only when they participate in illegal events like Critical Mass and/or engage in illegal activity.
Lets get the word correct: I understand what the guy did, I do not condone what the guy did.
The lesson here is simple: If you're going to provoke someone, don't count on them taking the high road.
If an ambulance hasn't already had to fight through CM, it would greatly surprise me.
I wish everyone would drop this argument, to me it is silly.
If an ambulance throws on the lights and sirens, everyone gets out of the way, regardless if they are drivers, riders, or pedestrians. Routinely ambulances have to make it to victims of vehicle accidents that have brought traffic to a standstill for miles in all directions. The ambulances still get there, cause everyone gets out of the way.
Yes Critical Mass is a PITA, and yes I understand wanting to run them all over. That is all.
I FUCKING LOVE THIS THREAD! IF I COULD SNORT THIS THREAD I FUCKING WOULD. It makes me happy just knowing that these assholes are going to think twice about trolling the roads. My day has been made and a tear of joy has left my eye.
I still remember a few summer back this guy past a cyclist and park on the side... wait til the cyclist come by his car... open up the car door.. bam! cyclist hit the door, flipped and flyyyyyy.... I lmao!!!
I FUCKING LOVE THIS THREAD! IF I COULD SNORT THIS THREAD I FUCKING WOULD. It makes me happy just knowing that these assholes are going to think twice about trolling the roads. My day has been made and a tear of joy has left my eye.
so fucking sig worthy!
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Probably because he tells it like it is and knows hockey better than you two dipshits? People respect his opinions, not like you two dipshits? He has a solid income, not like you two dipshits?
one minute we are all e-thugs
another we are all trolls
nevermind the super mad tyte web-stalking skills some members have
then we get a thread like this and we have super coherent academic posts.
So many delightful comments, this reinforces the thought that the western world makes for an atmosphere where people choose money over there personal integrity.
I have witnessed this but it was the police that held up everyone and not let motorist follow the bikers for over 30 minutes.
one minute we are all e-thugs
another we are all trolls
nevermind the super mad tyte web-stalking skills some members have
then we get a thread like this and we have super coherent academic posts.
WTF
all the fobs thought this thread was about a guy plowing a brazilian virgin named Critical Mass, and thus was not work safe, so they didn't open it.