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Jsunu 03-14-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 7342914)
A bit of a long read, but worth it, as it explains (among other things) why Fukushima is NOT like Chernobyl: http://theenergycollective.com/barry...te-explanation

Written by nuclear physicists, BTW... not bloggers who google random information off the net and put it together in some semi-coherent way to support their own warped view of the world.

Thank you!

It is sad how easy people can misinterpret information to spread misinformation. Just because you cite a large amount of credible sources doesn't mean that you have interpreted the information in any correct way.

Then again, any thing now is premature and you never know what could develop down the line.

Soundy 03-14-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chun (Post 7342890)
Btw, where are you at and what's your take on it?

I'm really considering taking a morning bus tomorrow to Osaka to say a few days.

Osaka is some 700km SW of Fukushima, it should be quite safe. (Google Maps FTW)

Greenstoner 03-14-2011 08:35 AM

friend from japan (not sure which city) saying most of the stock are out in nearby grocery shops.

A lot of items are limited 2 per family kind of thing.

She also mentioned more pople are paranoid about the nuclear than another earthquake, suggested to bring umbrella and wear mask when go out

Eat a lot of vege and drink a lot of water.

gdoh 03-14-2011 08:37 AM

sooo the cores are fine its just the secondary containment part ???

SkinnyPupp 03-14-2011 08:38 AM

The cores are fine, they just need to wait for them to cool down (via sea water) before they can take them away. They aren't even actively creating heat anymore, it's just residual heat they are waiting on.

MG1 03-14-2011 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 7342916)
Osaka is some 700km SW of Fukushima, it should be quite safe. (Google Maps FTW)

Plus, winds are blowing the other way, thank god.


Any more news about the US ship that sailed past the cloud of smoke from the explosion? Apparently some navy personel got radiation poisoning. Didn't sound too severe.

SkinnyPupp 03-14-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 7342927)
Plus, winds are blowing the other way, thank god.


Any more news about the US ship that sailed past the cloud of smoke from the explosion? Apparently some navy personel got radiation poisoning. Didn't sound too severe.

They said the amount of radiation they were exposed to is about the same as 1 month of being on earth. So not as alarming as people would like you to think

chun 03-14-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenstoner (Post 7342918)
friend from japan (not sure which city) saying most of the stock are out in nearby grocery shops.

A lot of items are limited 2 per family kind of thing.

I took a video of my local grocer; it's freaking bare. Will post it up later.

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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 7342927)
Plus, winds are blowing the other way, thank god.

Any more news about the US ship that sailed past the cloud of smoke from the explosion? Apparently some navy personel got radiation poisoning. Didn't sound too severe.

Apparently, it's expected on Thursday that winds will blow towards Tokyo (from someone elses Twitter).

Soundy 03-14-2011 08:53 AM

Just listening to some of the loonies calling the Bill Good Show now... one woman seemed typical, admitting to knowing nothing about science, but tossing about all the usual buzzwords that people are getting from the 'net and the media, and being terrified by them.

A couple guys went on about the jet stream bringing the radiation directly to our coast... obviously have no clue about the jet stream, what it is, or how it actually works. For the record: the polar jet streams flow at an altitude of 25,000-40,000 feet, so they aren't hindered by mountain ranges... and they don't operate like a bomber, carrying radiation to the next coast and then just dropping it all there. Keep in mind that radioactive material would also first have to REACH that height in order to even be picked up by the jet stream...

chun 03-14-2011 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 7342916)
Osaka is some 700km SW of Fukushima, it should be quite safe. (Google Maps FTW)

Thanks, but sorry, I was asking if he's thought about getting out of Tokyo yet. A lot of foreigners have decided to head west, and some Japanese with family in the west have gone to their hometowns already.

SkinnyPupp 03-14-2011 09:02 AM

If I was in Tokyo right now, and didn't have much reason to stay there, I'd probably head down south as well. I'm sure things will be back to normal soon, but might as well not be around for the time being, unless you're needed.

chun 03-14-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7342950)
If I was in Tokyo right now, and didn't have much reason to stay there, I'd probably head down south as well. I'm sure things will be back to normal soon, but might as well not be around for the time being, unless you're needed.

Exactly. Just for the peace of mind at the very least...

Holy shit, I'm agreeing with SP. These earthquakes have definitely gotten to me.

SkinnyPupp 03-14-2011 09:09 AM

If you're correct, you're always gonna agree with me. I guess the quake knocked some sense into you :)

StylinRed 03-14-2011 09:13 AM

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The U.S. nuclear regulatory commission says the Japanese government has formally asked the U.S. for help with cooling nuclear reactors
from the Reuters coverage

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2

wouwou 03-14-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7342961)
If you're correct, you're always gonna agree with me. I guess the quake knocked some sense into you :)

quoted for the epicness :fullofwin:

chun 03-14-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7342961)
If you're correct, you're always gonna agree with me. I guess the quake knocked some sense into you :)

I'll leave the general RS public to respond to this one.

I'm heading to bed now. If they don't have any positive news about the reactors by tomorrow morning, I'm going to head to Osaka most likely.

Jsunu 03-14-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chun (Post 7342969)
I'll leave the general RS public to respond to this one.

I'm heading to bed now. If they don't have any positive news about the reactors by tomorrow morning, I'm going to head to Osaka most likely.

Good luck dude, thanks for updating us from Japan!

I would just head to Osaka irregardless, it is better safe then sorry.

InvisibleSoul 03-14-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 7339305)
Uh............ the Japanese do not eat long grain rice. There will be a shortage there. I'm not talking about a world wide shortage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by willystyle (Post 7339308)
Japan's rice production may not hinder on a global scale, but it will affect it's own supply and prices on a national level, as most Japanese buy local.

I was mainly responding to this particular statement by 89blkcivic:

Quote:

The rice shortage may even affect us here.

StylinRed 03-14-2011 09:24 AM

interesting time lapse animation/flash map of japan that shows the rate and occurrences of aftershocks after the main earthquake

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42037498...-asia-pacific/

Psykopathik 03-14-2011 10:28 AM

RE: the use of Jap.

i think in this case its OK as no one is TRYING to be derogatory, but simply as an abbreviation. considering how many times people are referencing the word JAPANESE, its makes sense to me.

bakasam 03-14-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo E (Post 7343048)
RE: the use of Jap.

i think in this case its OK as no one is TRYING to be derogatory, but simply as an abbreviation. considering how many times people are referencing the word JAPANESE, its makes sense to me.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YEkWG11gxY...ead_horse2.jpg

:speechless: I think we were done with that topic a couple pages ago..

InvisibleSoul 03-14-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo E (Post 7343048)
RE: the use of Jap.

i think in this case its OK as no one is TRYING to be derogatory, but simply as an abbreviation. considering how many times people are referencing the word JAPANESE, its makes sense to me.

My thoughts are that there is no need to be oversensitive about the usage of the term, especially if you know it's because the person using it doesn't know that it's a derogatory term.

But once it's been made clear to that person that it is, in fact, derogatory, then that person should refrain from continuing to use it.

CP.AR 03-14-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 7342927)
Plus, winds are blowing the other way, thank god.


Any more news about the US ship that sailed past the cloud of smoke from the explosion? Apparently some navy personel got radiation poisoning. Didn't sound too severe.

the ship and her crew are fine. they just took a shower and washed off the contaminated particulate. No more contamination was found on their bodies

flagella 03-14-2011 10:57 AM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...6312.html?mod=

some good info here including comparison of before and after satellite pics.

InvisibleSoul 03-14-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by VrrM604 (Post 7340093)
was just reading some of the comments on the boston.com link provided and someone extracted an article on earthquake preparedness. Good read as some of the things I never new

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201...its_japan.html

Okay, well that makes some more sense now that it's been explained.

Hiding underneath a table will shelter you from being hit by small falling objects and broken windows, but you'll be worse off if the building collapses.

So... I guess the moral of the story is, if the building you're in is in danger of collapsing, lie beside an object that will create an airspace for you in the event of collapsing walls or ceilings. If you're in a structurally sound building, then you can hide under a desk to avoid smaller falling objects from hitting you.


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