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Old 03-15-2011, 09:28 PM   #1151
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like some people want this to be a bigger disaster than it really is.
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I'd want this disaster to STOP NOW!
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like some people want this to be a bigger disaster than it really is.
Not me man. I just wanna hear that all the bad stuff has stopped and they can start the recovery phase.
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why would u drive along the cost to beat this thing? Use your common sense and head east and past the rockies.
If it hasn't dissipated significantly by the time it crosses thousands of miles of ocean, why would an extra couple hundred make a difference?
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Not me man. I just wanna hear that all the bad stuff has stopped and they can start the recovery phase.
It is though, and always has been since the first few days. As soon as they shut off the reactor and started cooling it with water, it's just a matter of time. If 3 more reactors do the same thing, they just have to do it 3 more times. If every single reactor building blows up, they just have to keep cooling them until they can contain the cores...

Bringing up every single explosion, looking at pictures of shattered buildings, etc, is just scaring yourself needlessly.
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like some people want this to be a bigger disaster than it really is.
Exactly this judging by some of the posts... especially armchair journalists like HK20000.

The most recent quake hit a lot closer to the Tokyo area. People on the streets don't look worried whatsoever. They're just going on with their business as normal.
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like some people want this to be a bigger disaster than it really is.
I know hk2000 does, just so he can be proven right...
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i reported a lot of the stuff early on but just so people could know what was happening. all im doing now is trying to explain to certain people who cant seem to understand that the radiation cant make it here or that the "melting structures" is a result of previous explosions. i definitely do not want it to escalate especially when i'm heading over there in a month or two
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Anyone have any news clips of scientist talking about the Pacific risks of a full blow meltdown?

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If it hasn't dissipated significantly by the time it crosses thousands of miles of ocean, why would an extra couple hundred make a difference?
check out the latest jet stream patterns, it could make a difference if you go far enough... Im thinking of going to Toronto if a meltdown happens.
http://www.boldizar.com/blog/2011/03...is-a-meltdown/
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Anyone have any news clips of scientist talking about the Pacific risks of a full blow meltdown?

check out the latest jet stream patterns, it could make a difference if you go far enough... Im thinking of going to Toronto if a meltdown happens.
http://www.boldizar.com/blog/2011/03...is-a-meltdown/
how is the radioactive particulate going to get 30,000+ft in the air exactly?
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Keep in mind that the polar jet stream flows at an altitude of *25,000-40,000 feet* - it's not like this wind is going to travel across the ocean and blow radiation right in your face, as so many seem to think is going to happen. It also isn't going to carry in it "clumps" across the ocean and then magically drop it right on the coast.

Look at what happens with large volcanic eruptions - the ash that reaches the jet stream tends to stay there and circle the entire globe; the stuff picked up by lower-level winds gets dropped fairly rapidly and doesn't spread very far.

Also, if you look at those charts, you'll see the jet stream and prevailing winds don't blow constantly straight from Japan to any specific part of the North American coast - they're constantly shifting and changing, adjusting possibly hundreds of miles within the course of a day.
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Not to mention a radioactive particulate with a half-life of about a week... Once it gets a few dozen miles from the power plant it's pretty much non-existent.
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how is the radioactive particulate going to get 30,000+ft in the air exactly?
That's the other part of the equation - by the time it even gets that high, it will have to have dispersed substantially.
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Then there is nothing to worry about? These pictures are pretty disturbing.
Photo: Nuclear nightmare: In the days following the Chernobyl nuclear power explosion in the Ukraine in 1986, a cloud of radioactive "fallout" spread throughout Europe. In this sequence of pictures, you can see the cloud (the pink area) on day 2, day 6, and day 10 after the accident. Pictures by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory courtesy of US Department of Energy.
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Then there is nothing to worry about? These pictures are pretty disturbing.
Photo: Nuclear nightmare: In the days following the Chernobyl nuclear power explosion in the Ukraine in 1986, a cloud of radioactive "fallout" spread throughout Europe. In this sequence of pictures, you can see the cloud (the pink area) on day 2, day 6, and day 10 after the accident. Pictures by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory courtesy of US Department of Energy.
they are down playing the whole thing so ppl wont panick and start leaving their homes.
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West Coast not at risk of fallout - British Columbia - CBC News

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Photo: Nuclear nightmare: In the days following the Chernobyl nuclear power explosion in the Ukraine in 1986, a cloud of radioactive "fallout" spread throughout Europe. In this sequence of pictures, you can see the cloud (the pink area) on day 2, day 6, and day 10 after the accident. Pictures by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory courtesy of US Department of Energy.
Does it say how high these are? Does it say if any of this actually dropped on Europe?

Notice how half of Europe's population DIDN'T die? And how the stuff on this map has had a LOT less distance to travel than any radiation would have to travel from Japan to reach us here? And how the radioactive contaminants spewed out by Chernobyl are FAR WORSE than anything that is expected to come out of Fukushima, even in a worst-case scenario?

This is the same thing hk2000 is doing - seeking out pictures that "seem really bad" and getting all worked up over them, without actually take a moment to even think about them or understand what they actually mean.
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Why is that CTV news clip sidelining the main question of what the risks are if a meltdown was to happen? Why.
Tomorrow Im going search Seattle and L.A. articles and find a few credited scientist that are independent of main stream news so I can make my own conclusions.

edit- seeing an old video once (Im not sure how accurate it was), if a nuclear particulate gets into your body it constantly sends out energy pulse waves that can alter your genes and give you cancer.
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edit- seeing an old video once (Im not sure how accurate it was), if a nuclear particulate gets into your body it constantly sends out energy pulse waves that can alter your genes and give you cancer.


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This might help... For people that haven't watched local news update I guess...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...rs-update.html

So a meltdown is is very different from Chernobyl. It's not going to be an explosion...

So if it melts within the containment, I guess it'll melt away and contaminate what's below it? or if it evaps, it'll be concentrated, and this concentration will then start to disperse slowly???
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Seeing on the news now, Geiger counters are selling like hotcakes on fleaBay... thinking I should build my own "radiation counters" to sell. I'll build them to randomly click at different rates... that should really drive people crazy. "O NOEZ, YOU'RE CONTAM..... oh wait, you're okay now."
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This might help... For people that haven't watched local news update I guess...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...rs-update.html

So a meltdown is is very different from Chernobyl. It's not going to be an explosion...

So if it melts within the containment, I guess it'll melt away and contaminate what's below it? or if it evaps, it'll be concentrated, and this concentration will then start to disperse slowly???
One of the previous articles posted here pointed out, if it did melt all the way through the core, it still wouldn't melt through the steel containment chamber, but would just pool in the bottom - the reaction happens at a temperature far below the melting point of steel.
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Seeing on the news now, Geiger counters are selling like hotcakes on fleaBay... thinking I should build my own "radiation counters" to sell. I'll build them to randomly click at different rates... that should really drive people crazy. "O NOEZ, YOU'RE CONTAM..... oh wait, you're okay now."
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