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Old 03-16-2011, 02:25 AM   #1201
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A woman cries while sitting on a road amid the destroyed city of Natori, Miyagi Prefecture in northern Japan March 13, 2011, after a massive earthquake and tsunami that are feared to have killed more than 10,000 people.
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By the way, some of you are so wrong about how nuclear power and radiation works that there aren't enough face palms on the internets for you.

There seriously isn't that much to worry about.
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snow is getting in the way of rescue work


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By Kim Kyung Hoon and Chris Meyers
SENDAI, Japan | Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:09am GMT



(Reuters) - - Heavy snow blanketed Japan's devastated northeast on Wednesday, hindering rescue workers and adding to the woes of the few, mainly elderly, residents who remained in the area worst hit by last week's massive earthquake and tsunami.

In Sendai, once a city but now a water-logged wasteland, firefighters and relief teams sifted through mounds of rubble, hoping to find any sign of life.

But, like in most other towns, rescuers just pulled out body after body, which they wrapped in brightly colored blankets and lined up neatly against the grey, grim landscape.

"The strong smell of bodies and the dirty seawater make search extremely difficult," said Yin Guanghui, a member of a Chinese rescue team working in the battered town of Ofunato.

"Powerful waves in the tsunami would repeatedly hit houses in the area. Anyone trapped under the debris would be drown in no time, without any chance to survive."

Japanese media said at least two people were pulled alive from the rubble, more than 72 hours after the earthquake and tsunami struck. But rescue officials said the snow weakened what little chance they had of finding any more survivors.

"Snow has just come down in a blanket. Visibility is just 40 meters," said Patrick Fuller of the International Red Cross Federation from what remained of Otsuchi, a fishing hamlet.

"People are still working, the army is out here. But the fire service has taken off because they are worried they won't get back to their base because of the snow."

Officials estimate Friday's earthquake and tsunami have killed at least 10,000 people, with thousands missing.

Those who did survive lost everything they owned and now face shortages of food and water, no electricity or heating and frequent aftershocks -- some as strong as a magnitude -- that have rattled the country.

"STRESSED OUT"

The meteorology agency said temperatures could drop as low as -2 Celsius (28 Fahrenheit) in Sendai on Wednesday. Broadcaster NHK offered tips on how to stay warm -- wrap your trunk in newspaper and cling film -- and how to boil water using empty food cans and candles.

Rescuers said their main concern was for the elderly, who make up the majority of the scores of people packed into shelters.

"They are having a very tough time of it," said Fuller.

"They need regular medication and proper care. A lot of the problems, though, are psychological, people are so stressed out. They are getting three meals a day but probably more food needs to come."

In addition to their physical well-being, many elderly people at shelters were traumatized by what they had been through, and just sat huddled on blankets, waiting, but not sure for what.

"Right after the earthquake, I was told to evacuate as soon as possible. I couldn't bring anything but myself," said silver-haired Kiyoko Abe at a shelter in Ishimomaki, Miyagi prefecture.

Her husband sat smiling beside her, occasionally wiping away tears.

(Writing by Miral Fahmy; Editing by Robert Birsel)
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it's great to hear they're finding survivors; shame about the weather
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For those concerned about radiation coming here

here is NOAAs trajectory path for the Radiation that has come out of Japan



and here's a news article explaining a bit about what all that means

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...?homepage=true


also its said that Japan will take about 5 years for reconstruction
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Some video journalism.



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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like some people want this to be a bigger disaster than it really is.

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the tech today is by far way more advanced than what it was when threemileisland or Chernobyl. My biggest heat on this is that if Japan asked for help and was direct with the situation. we would not have all this "guessing" on the situation.
My problem with this type of statement is that it assumes governments and site officials instantly know everything that's going on themselves. They can't SEE what's happening inside the reactors. They can take measurements of heat and radioactivity and make educated guesses... and as we're seeing, sometimes the guesses are wrong... sometimes the information they work from is incomplete... and sometimes Murphy steps up and says, fuck you, shit's gonna go wrong just to prove to you that you're NOT in control.

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regardless, it was said that the design of the plant was not safe to begin with. having 6 reactors in such close range is not a good thing
But the various reactors are not directly affecting each other. They're each experiencing their own problems, and likely still would have the same problems if they were a mile apart. As it is, it probably makes it easier for workers to scramble between them.

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For those concerned about radiation coming here

here is NOAAs trajectory path for the Radiation that has come out of Japan



and here's a news article explaining a bit about what all that means

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...?homepage=true
Notice on the green line how it all lands in Texas!

Of course, given how the jet streams shift and flow, remember that they can change *in transit* over the course of the couple days it takes to get across the ocean.
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M5.2 just hit in between Chiba and Ibaraki... was a 3 in Tokyo.
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If we're gonna post every earthquake that occurs in Asia, this thread will be updated 10-60 times a day.
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remember those roads that were split in halves? It's like MAGIC!!!
Sadly the track that gave us many Matsuri videos and professional D1 racing is no more. But hey Kumakubo's STi survived!






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Love it how they are getting cranes and lifts to save that car in a time of crisis
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What I'd like to know is what is the end point for the nuclear crisis?

I haven't been able to find a thing that says how do we claim victory?

OK, they flood the things with sea water by using the fire suppression system and fire trucks as pumps. Ultimately they need to: a) cool the reactors using a proper system that is reliable, and b) defuel the reactors.

I haven't heard a thing about the back up pumps. Are they being repaired? Are they even still there?

Just now the Japanese are starting to say that things are bad. No kidding.

I have no problem with nuclear power, but I have a big issue when the fuel rods are exposed in reactor 2 because the pump ran out of gas.

All I hear is fear mongering, and no answers.
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Oh! And everyone talking about the risk to North America...lets give the Japanese a few seconds of concern, seeing as they live right next to the thing.
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So you helped cool the reactor(s) at Fukushima?
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Love it how they are getting cranes and lifts to save that car in a time of crisis
nihonmatsu (the city where the track is closest to) is just outside the 30km radius circle too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihonmatsu,_Fukushima
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remember those roads that were split in halves? It's like MAGIC!!!
Is this really a before and after?!
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^ if it was, that's really damn fast. It'll take over a year for Vancouver to fix that.
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So you helped cool the reactor(s) at Fukushima?
It's for a friend of mine, I strongly doubt he's gonna help cool the reactors, but he's rushing to go to Japan to pick up his wife and new born whom are currently visiting her family there.

They live pretty close to Tokyo as far as I know, so I figures there is no harm to keep his thyroid gland saturated with Iodine before he goes, as long as keeping it under the recommend daily dosage of 130mg. Also it should make good gift to his in-laws who lives there too ...

btw, MoBettah, you can fail me all you wants while sitting in the comfort of your own home; but I bet if you were the one who's going, you would rather to be too well-prepared too.
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How about Asia/HK?

We've talked about radiation coming to NA/Vancouver, how about Asia/HK?

I've did a Google search for HK news and nothing showed up saying that citizens should be concerned about radiation affecting them in HK.

My parents are flying to HK on Friday, and I just like a piece of mind that there's no reason to worry about them flying over Japan and being affected by radiation.
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Fox News Discovers Nuclear Reactor In Japanese Disco

March 14, 2011 5:53 pm ET by Simon Maloy

Earlier today on Fox News' Your World With Neil Cavuto, this map popped up detailing the locations of Japan's nuclear power plants:



One name seems out of place on the graphic -- that of "Shibuyaeggman."

It doesn't show up on the International Atomic Energy Agency's list of Japanese nuclear power stations, and this map of Japanese nuclear installations from the Department of Energy's International Nuclear Safety Center doesn't have any listing for "Shibuyaeggman," and doesn't show a nuclear power plant anywhere near the location on the Fox News map. So I did a little research.

A quick Googling of "shibuyaeggman" turned up no meaningful results. A Nexis search was also fruitless. However, further inquiries revealed that Eggman is the name of a dance club in a trendy neighborhood of Tokyo called... Shibuya. And, it just so happens, the Fox graphic appears to place the alleged reactor in Tokyo. Here's a photo of Eggman -- as you can see, it's right below The @ Super Suits Store. And Johnny Hi-Fi played there in 2006.

Sounds like a fun place. But it doesn't sound like a nuclear power plant.
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is it just me or is Sendai in the wrong place on that map from faux news?


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