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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl  He ran his campaign on transparency.
He lead the government on lies.
It's time to dump the mother fucker already. | The Liberals are currently holding Ontario and like it or not, the election will be decided by Ontario seats. The west will be blue, Quebexico will be PQ, and the Maritimes will vote for whoever gives them the most money.
The Ontario Liberals under McGuinty ran a campaign on no new taxes, and guess what? within months new fees were added to avoid calling them "taxes". Ontario is fed up with the Liberals and it is already showing with Toronto voting in a right wing mayor. Ontario will turn blue this election, giving Harper a majority.
Unfortunately you, the Libs and the NDP are too stupid to realize this. This is the worst time for them to call an election, principles or otherwise.
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#27 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Who cares? The polls certainly show people do not, and the Conservatives will keep their minority with little change in numbers.
I get the principle behind it, yet it is a waste of tax payer money at a time when we do not have money to waste. | A COMPLETE waste of money.
1.2 Million will be waisted in elections.
Conservatives will lead again and we can be sure to welcome election #5 in the near future.
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03-25-2011, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl JD13, IMO you think they've been doing a decent job because some of the sickening shit Harper's done has remained out of the news. | Or perhaps it is not in the news cause Canadians do not care. The economy is doing well enough, nothing terribly controversial has occurred, so we're all willing to overlook some scandal. The polls back this up.
What the opposition did today was fine in principle, yet does absolutely no fucking good for most Canadians since the election outcome is not likely to change. Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNewGirl I'm not a fan of any of the alternatives but frankly, I'd get behind even Duceppe before I'd support Harper for another term. | This shows how biased you are. You would get behind someone who constantly whines and cries with his hand out and into the rest of Canada's pocket than admit the Conservatives have done a decent job despite some scandals.
Save your opinion for someone that cares. It isn't worth anything on a car site. This site is going to be predominantly Conservative, willing to overlook some scandals as long as our pockets are not pillaged.
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03-25-2011, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stylez2k4 You want to come over and sing Kumbaya to make you feel better?
The good old "if you say this then you don't know this and should learn about it" |
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#30 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
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It IS the job of the opposition party to call the leading party out on shit like this. It's not as if they just went, 'you're bad and we don't like you'. There's been a commitee on the contempt issue for a while, investigating several cases of information being deliberately withheld both by individual members and by the party at large.
The process got followed. Everyone did the jobs they were elected to do.
So this is the end result.
I think we'll most likely end up with a Conservative minority... again. Unless we get a coalition government which is distinctly possible (and really not the worst out come in my opinion, it's past time for us to get over some of our squimishness about working together imo).
I hope that if the Con's lead again it's not with Harper at the head, though I personally have lost faith in the entire party for their behavior (not that I have a great well of faith in any of them to begin with).
I also hope this whole contempt issue serves as a reminder to the next government that they can and will be held accountable for their behavior. Perhaps the reality of consequences will make things a smidge more above the board in the future.
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03-25-2011, 02:48 PM
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#31 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by tool001 im guessing then u dont know | I would love for you to explain it for me
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03-25-2011, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Save your opinion for someone that cares. It isn't worth anything on a car site. This site is going to be predominantly Conservative, willing to overlook some scandals as long as our pockets are not pillaged. | We're having a discussion about politics. Anytime that happens amongst people under 40 I think that's a GOOD THING, regardless of if we agree or disagree.
That is what we need more than anything else in this country.
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03-25-2011, 02:52 PM
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the opposition are as big of worms as the conservatives are! it's not "their job" to call them out on that, it's "their job" to seize opportunity
the opportunity arose with a multitude of issues and when the budget came out that was it
ELECTION!
parties supporting an election obviously has even LESS of a grasp on reality and the concerns/needs of the Canadian people
there is no possible way either the liberals nor NDP will even be able to manage a minority, they are grasping at straws and costing tax payers BILLIONS of dollars for a shot in the dark..
it's sickening.
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03-25-2011, 03:05 PM
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#34 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer the opposition are as big of worms as the conservatives are! it's not "their job" to call them out on that, it's "their job" to seize opportunity
the opportunity arose with a multitude of issues and when the budget came out that was it
ELECTION!
parties supporting an election obviously has even LESS of a grasp on reality and the concerns/needs of the Canadian people
there is no possible way either the liberals nor NDP will even be able to manage a minority, they are grasping at straws and costing tax payers BILLIONS of dollars for a shot in the dark..
it's sickening. | What if the NDP and the Liberals merge?
Harper has has two chances to get a majority government and has failed. He needs to step down and let some else in his party try.
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03-25-2011, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl I hope that if the Con's lead again it's not with Harper at the head, though I personally have lost faith in the entire party for their behavior (not that I have a great well of faith in any of them to begin with). | This shows your ignorance. The Conservatives will be the same with or without Harper as the leader. Harper will merely step back into his strategist role where he was before being leader and the party politics will continue.
Voting for a leader is asinine.
Vote for a party's platform.
I for one will not be voting for a party that wants to direct money towards building a stadium in Quebexico. See how I did not mention Iggy or Douchebag Duceppe? That's how to vote based on party platforms. Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNewGirl I also hope this whole contempt issue serves as a reminder to the next government that they can and will be held accountable for their behavior. Perhaps the reality of consequences will make things a smidge more above the board in the future. | It will not. Why? Cause no one cares! | |
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03-25-2011, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl We're having a discussion about politics. Anytime that happens amongst people under 40 I think that's a GOOD THING, regardless of if we agree or disagree.
That is what we need more than anything else in this country. | Kinda.
We need more of it if people will get informed.
We need less of it if people are going to treat it as the next episode of Canadian Idol, a stupid popularity contest.
If you're just voting down Harper cause he looks like a greasy used car salesman, then you shouldn't vote or should spoil your vote. An uneducated vote is worse than anything.
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03-25-2011, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! What if the NDP and the Liberals merge?
Harper has has two chances to get a majority government and has failed. He needs to step down and let some else in his party try. | Again, you should be voting for a party - this isn't Canadian Idol.
The NDP and Libs will never merge. Infact the Liberals have jumped in the polls as NDPers throw their support behind the Libs cause they want "anything but conservative". They would sacrifice thier own values and party to ensure the Conservatives do not win.
This is why the NDP is a joke and will never lead.
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03-25-2011, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Kinda.
We need more of it if people will get informed.
We need less of it if people are going to treat it as the next episode of Canadian Idol, a stupid popularity contest.
If you're just voting down Harper cause he looks like a greasy used car salesman, then you shouldn't vote or should spoil your vote. An uneducated vote is worse than anything. | The problem is that a vast portion of Canadian's do not follow or claim to know very little about our own domestic politics, including myself. It is just sad how people pay little to no attention to something that, in actually, affects them the most.
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03-25-2011, 03:31 PM
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#39 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by Manic! Thats got more to do with Paul Martin than Steven Harper. | no, it has more to do with chretien making damn sure martin did his job as finance minister. When paul martin had his chance at the helm, he undid EVERYTHING good he did in the previous 10 years.
btw those years of liberal leadership under chretien were not too unlike conservatives fiscal ideology.
i'm not a liberal supporter at all, but even i have to admit that those years under chretien, scandal and all, were pretty good for canada.
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03-25-2011, 03:35 PM
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#40 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by JD像 The amount of money stolen, wasted, and used illegally by the Liberal government under Chr彋ien/Martin would blow everything you just listed 1000ft out of the water.
| Uh, I guess you don't remember that the Liberals under Jean Chretien had FIVE consecutive surplus budgets, eliminated $42 billion in deficit, paid down $36 billion of debt, and cut $100 billion in taxes over 5 years...
Of course one sponsorship scandal and no one remembers the GOOD things the liberals did when they were in power.
How many surplus budgets have the recent conservatives had?
So easy to forget, probably because most on this board were toddlers in that era.
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Originally Posted by Manic! What if the NDP and the Liberals merge?
Harper has has two chances to get a majority government and has failed. He needs to step down and let some else in his party try. | man those 2 parties will never merge. their ideologies are so far apart, it's like asking liberals and conservatives to merge.
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer bingo
I got a good chuckle out of the whole issue regarding the F-35's and a debate featuring the bloc, NDP and Liberal rep's had one day on TV
of course being the opopsition none of them had anything good to say regarding the Lockheed martin jets besides the costs, as well as the discrepency between the costs "researched" and the costs proposed by the harper government
all three of them agreed though that "There are many other options out there outside of N/A that were never considered in terms of other jets"
LOL yea because Canada is going to go out and buy fucking Chinese or Russian planes right? that would look AWSOMEEEEE to cancel an order from our #1 ally and go seek out a nice communist option in our defense systems..
and never once did they bring up the issue of maintenance, parts, training, etc. which would obviously be easier in every aspect dealing with Lockheed than a foreign company.. | When it comes to the military, the Libs or NDP don't have a fucking clue. They are going to toss around this new fighter purchase issue just like they did with the Sea King. In 2017/18 when the CF-18's are grounded they will still be bickering at each other over what they should buy. In the mean time we will have US fighters operate out of Canadian bases for NORAD duties, is this what Canadians want? Sacrifice domestic air sovereignty just to save a buck on the backs of the men and women in uniform? We are already the lowest funded force in all of NATO, god forbid those morons get in power, we will really be screwed. Sell the CBC, they already cost more to operate than our CF.
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03-25-2011, 03:40 PM
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#43 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Again, you should be voting for a party - this isn't Canadian Idol.
| And thats how you end up with people like MP Nina Grewal. 
(edit: looking at the picture even she can't stand listing to Harper)
"They have a law like this in the UK and on June 9, 2010, I think it was, Obama passed that law in the United States. In the U.S., I think only one person voted against it."
Read more: http://www.thenownewspaper.com/Surre...#ixzz1Hemwv6WE
Does she not no how to use google? Instead of thinking find out when the law in the US was passed and what the law states.
You should look at the party but you should also look at the candidate and see who will best represent your riding.
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03-25-2011, 03:53 PM
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#44 | | I Wanna Go Fast!
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Originally Posted by Great68 Uh, I guess you don't remember that the Liberals under Jean Chretien had FIVE consecutive surplus budgets, eliminated $42 billion in deficit, paid down $36 billion of debt, and cut $100 billion in taxes over 5 years...
Of course one sponsorship scandal and no one remembers the GOOD things the liberals did when they were in power.
How many surplus budgets have the recent conservatives had?
So easy to forget, probably because most on this board were toddlers in that era. | No I remember, I was just pointing out that corruption is not limited to one party. And if we're going to vote on ethical use of the Canadian tax dollar well........
The global economy was very different under the Liberal government. Apples to oranges, all you can do is go by how each party handled themselves at the time.
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#45 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by taylor192 Unfortunately you, the Libs and the NDP are too stupid to realize this. | Quote: |
This shows your ignorance.
| Grow up dude. TheNewGirl has not called you a name or challenged your character in a single post.
Keep it mature.
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Am I the only one picturing Natalie Portman (Queen Amidala) and her vote of non-confidence against the senate in Star Wars.
I wish our parliment had those floating box seats. 
taylor192, fuck, stop being so condensending when someone disagrees with your opinions. It makes your dick look small.
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its amazing how taylor et al are far more intelligent than the ruling leadership and their million dollar analysts that have lee them to decide to push for an election... wow taylor you should run for a seat
please theres no reason to be name calling here qhen we're just voicing our views or else you're no better than these politicians you accuse of schoolyard antics Posted via RS Mobile | |
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Hey taylor. I know who cares.
People who want a government with as little corruption as possible and easily available access off information that the tory's destroyed when he got elected. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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Maybe those people should be looking in fairy tales.. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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Originally Posted by MajinHurricane Hey taylor. I know who cares.
People who want a government with as little corruption as possible and easily available access off information that the tory's destroyed when he got elected. Posted via RS Mobile | Good for them. They are probably NDP voters and will now lose $300M of money that could have been negotiated to be spent on those the NDP look out for. And they might lose far more.
If the Conservatives get a majority all the current things in the budget that catered to the NDP will be gone. The chance of a majority is decent, so I wonder why the NDP would risk losing everything.
The chance of a majority is decent.
- Toronto is leaning right, with a very right-wing mayor whom they overlooked his scandalous past.
- Newfoundland might go back to blue. Danny Williams is gone, and it doesn't look like there'll be a return of the ABC campaign (anything but conservative).
If both those happen, and the Conservatives steal a seat in Montreal cause Montreal doesn't want their taxes given to Quebec City for an arena - well the NDP should pack up and call it quits. They did a huge disservice to their supporters by even risking this happening.
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