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Old 06-17-2011, 04:40 PM   #1576
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they must have a hell of a time identifying these people because all those brown people look the same and wear the same shit.
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The amount of ownage is beyond epic. Thank god for FB and youtube.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:42 PM   #1578
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they must have a hell of a time identifying these people because all those brown people look the same and wear the same shit.
I don't look the same as this guy, lol.
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I'm sorry Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chui. Your plan failed and for the second time your city has an international black eye after the 7th game of the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Much outrage has been expressed here on CKNW to the actions of the rioters. There is no doubt they were idiots - drunken, dangerous fools. I fully agree with the Police Chief there was a group of people bent on anarchy. But the Chief, Mayor Gregor Robertson, and Premier Christy Clark insist it was a small group. Bunk! It was anything but small. The size of the crowd outside the Canada Post building..the size of the crowd on the Granville strip...the size of the crowd looting the London Drugs, Sears or The Bay was not small.

Now, while we can quibble about the size, all of the talk about this lawless group also conveniently diverts attention from the police response. No one argues about those drunken thugs being idiots and criminals who deserve jail time. But, dealing with those drunken thugs - how to prevent a riot and how to stop a riot when it begins - I think the VPD have to take a very serious look at their own performance. From what I heard from the Police Chief Thursday morning, Jim Chui doesn't appear to be very interested in at least acknowledging that need, let alone doing it. Butt covering seems to be the plan.

First, the meet and greet strategy touted by Chui and Mayor Robertson utterly failed in preventing the riot. It failed when it was most needed - game 7.

Second, at what point do police use force to retake the streets? Chui proudly points out it took 3 hours to bring order to the streets - half the time it took in 1994. Great...ask the folks at London Drugs or Future Shop or Sears or The Bay how pleased they are with what happened. There was virtually no effort by police to stop the window smashing that led to the looting. The cops withdrew. No cordon of cops and police dogs to stop them from breaking the windows at London Drugs or Sears. No, the police withdrew.

I have no problem with the front line officers backing off to protect their safety. It was wild in front of the Queen Elizabeth Theatre. But, I think those front line men and women were let down by The Plan. The Plan the Chief says worked. The Plan the Chief says was followed.

Okay.no one was killed. 9 cops hurt. 100 arrested. 15 vehicles torched. Maybe that is a success in the big picture. It seems to me when the riot moved from torching cars to looting downtown stores - that's when a much stronger police reaction was necessary. To me, the looting crossed a line. That's when the cops had to say: "Enough is enough". Go home or be arrested.and you may get hurt if you don't go home. At some point, police needed to draw a line and say: "No more". It appears that never happened or if it did, it was long after the serious damage was done.

I have no issue with the front line cops and firefighters. I think they were poorly served by The Plan. Chief Chui says all kind of experts were consulted in creating The Plan. I can't help but think The Plan didn't work, and Wednesday night the anarchists - those troublemakers police say they know - won. They succeeded in brawling, burning and looting and giving the City of Vancouver another big black eye. Chief Chui, you say the VPD learned from the 1994 riot. I don't think you learned enough.

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I wonder if some of these ppl are actually turning themselves in, or if they're just saying that so the wrath of the internet dosent come down on them and people leave them alone
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:49 PM   #1581
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I don't look the same as this guy, lol.

my bad. i think what I meant is all those d-bags look the same. theyre like the bro types or ed hardy. Also theres the ones that you can tell are a little mentally disturbed and probably very quiet in real life. Like that kid wearing black smashing those windows that got nailed by the guy in the green shirt.
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straight up, all of this is going to be for nothing unless there is some ACTUAL punishment that comes to the people found guilty

fuck tieing up the courts, etc. etc. just fucking make them PAY damages, devistating people financially is wayyy harder on them then giving them a fucking week in jail or house arrest

make the guy who torched the cop car pay for it, make his family pay for it

you were part of rolling over a M5? well pay your share of the total-loss value to ICBC

the -only- way people are going to be scared of starting shit is to hit them in the wallet, owing 50k to the government for the next 15 years of your life hurts alot more than a month or even a couple months in jail.
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To be fair, giving her the benefit of the doubt, according to the date and description the pic was taken after Game 5.
Looks like its the same person.

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Old 06-17-2011, 04:51 PM   #1585
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There's no question in my mind that the VPD was understaffed and not prepared for the large crowd. They should have had more cops and riot police on stand by and maybe called in reinforcements from the RCMP.

And I think this riots would have happen even if the Canucks won, the crowd was young and jacked up on alcohol and was looking for an excuse to start a ruckus and it basically took one idiot to light a car on fire to ignite the crowd.
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Walked around DT yesterday for the first time since Wed.

Was really moved and almost teared seeing the crowds in front of the plywood all around HBC, people taking pictures, writing, standing & reading.

Seems like a group of elementary school kids were taken down to put down their thoughts as well.



Also, seeing the damage caused by fires firsthand is disgusting.





From the parkade on Richards.





In front of Canada Post on Georgia.



At CBC Plaza's corner.











& then of course the great signs.














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straight up, all of this is going to be for nothing unless there is some ACTUAL punishment that comes to the people found guilty

fuck tieing up the courts, etc. etc. just fucking make them PAY damages, devistating people financially is wayyy harder on them then giving them a fucking week in jail or house arrest

make the guy who torched the cop car pay for it, make his family pay for it

you were part of rolling over a M5? well pay your share of the total-loss value to ICBC

the -only- way people are going to be scared of starting shit is to hit them in the wallet, owing 50k to the government for the next 15 years of your life hurts alot more than a month or even a couple months in jail.
+1, exactly what I said a few pages back. I don't want to see these people go to jail, I want them to do hard community service and pay for the damages.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:55 PM   #1588
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walked around on my lunch break and most of downtown looks pretty good!

this picture made me lol

Look at this fucking hipster!


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walked around on my lunch break and most of downtown looks pretty good!

this picture made me lol

Look at this fucking hipster!


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HA. A hipster drinking Starbucks. Fucking hypocrite.
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straight up, all of this is going to be for nothing unless there is some ACTUAL punishment that comes to the people found guilty

fuck tieing up the courts, etc. etc. just fucking make them PAY damages, devistating people financially is wayyy harder on them then giving them a fucking week in jail or house arrest

make the guy who torched the cop car pay for it, make his family pay for it

you were part of rolling over a M5? well pay your share of the total-loss value to ICBC

the -only- way people are going to be scared of starting shit is to hit them in the wallet, owing 50k to the government for the next 15 years of your life hurts alot more than a month or even a couple months in jail.
I was thinking this also. If the person caught is under 18, is there a way to make the parents pay on their behalf since they're responsible for them?

Also, how do you guys feel about reporting the underaged to their bosses, universities and extra curricular clubs?
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^^i am all for reporting them to the bosses or whatever. If theyre underaged and they only get a slap on the wrist, at least this way they would feel way more of the consequences for their actions. I say report them all
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Say hello to Dustin Andreson, a low life who assaults a firefighter

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And punching a cop which is also caught on tape.
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Went through my pictures - here's 2 more of Jason Li smashing the windows at BMO.



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A young rioter caught on film trying to light a police car on fire in Vancouver on Wednesday night has been identified as an elite athlete who was headed to the University of Calgary on scholarship.

Nathan Kotylak, 17, vandalizes a police cruiser during the riots in Vancoucer on Wednesday night. Facebook Nathan Kotylak, 17, was one of the hundreds of rioters who tore a path of destruction through Vancouver's downtown streets after the Canucks lost the Stanley Cup to the Boston Bruins.

The Grade 12 student from Maple Ridge, a wealthy suburb of Vancouver, attends a private school and plays water polo on Canada's junior national team.

Kotylak had received a partial scholarship to attend the University of Calgary to study kinesiology, and hoped one day to compete in the Olympics, according to his father.

After the picture of Kotylak vandalizing a police car became one of the most viewed images in the riot's aftermath, the young athlete was repeatedly outed on Facebook and other social networking sites by people who recognized him.

The teen's father, a surgeon in B.C., told CBC News on Friday that the Grade 12 student will be "doing the right thing" by turning himself in.

He added that he wishes that his older son had been there that night to look out for his 17-year-old.
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To be fair, giving her the benefit of the doubt, according to the date and description the pic was taken after Game 5.
So someone can't wear the same clothes twice?
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I added times to when these people appear in the video.

Also found another asian kid, pretty sure SOMEONE can identify this one. Very clear shot in the video of him coming out (5:15) and he reappears at (5:32)


and I THINK I found this guy at 5:10, need someone to confirm? Heres his facebook http://www.facebook.com/jamescaha



Same thick eyebrows?
I see this guy at the SFU gym occasionally. What a fucking hoser.
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I see this guy at the SFU gym occasionally. What a fucking hoser.
That's him! I remember seeing him at the SFU gym now. I thought it was my older gym.

I think he is a Beedie Business student as well. I think I've seen him around WestMall and in a suit.
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