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Old 02-14-2012, 10:03 AM   #16951
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Props to coach AV for choosing players like Edler to play in the shootouts of games. He's on to something. The big Swede has some moves.
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that's great, but Nash's price will be astronomical at this time of year.
i have a feeling someone is gonna pay huge for him though
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To get someone like Nash would end up being a prospect + top 6 forwad / top 4 D + 1st rounders or more draft picks.

You can compare it to the Heatley trade but Nash is a far better player.
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id say nash is definately top 6 in the league....hell even top 4

i heard darren dreger saying columbus is trying to pair him with carter for a deal...pretty much get what nash is actually worth, and give carter away for free to clear books
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:49 AM   #16955
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Rick Nash is a consistent 70pt man on a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE hockey team
Heres an interesting take in my books...

only Iginla, Ovechkin, Perry, Kovalchuk and Heatley have MORE goals than Rick Nash in the past FIVE seasons
Rick Nash is TURNING 28 this year, has 8mil/yr contract with 6 years left
Its going to be tough for a CONTENDER to add Nash onto the roster. Most contenders DO NOT have 8mil in cap space for next season. Although from looking at capgeek, it seems that the KINGS could afford him next season as Jared Stoll, Willie Mitchell and Dustin Penner become UFAs next year. But the the Kings have traded away quite a future away to acquire Mike Richards. Most teams with established Top 6 forwards and top 4 D wont be willing to blow up their teams so easily either.

Will the GM of the CBJ, scott howson even have a job at the end of the season is yet to be seen. The bluejackets are dealing with the face of their franchise here. The fan support is already nonexistent, and Rick Nash is probably one of their last straws for the struggling franchise. There really isn't much left in terms of prospects for CBJ, so the asking price for Nash is going to be ABSOLUTELY insane for an established player.

The sad truth is that Jeff Carter is a cancer and no team will take him. Jeff Carter's NTC kicks in after this season as well.

The only bright light for CBJ is that they could try to move RJ Umberger or Antoine Vermette. The return might not be as wonderful, but its a start for CBJ to rebuild around Nash/Carter
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Now how much is Nash worth to us? What kind of realistic deal would the canucks offer for Nash.
For us to fit him into the cap, we would have to let go Booth, Ballard and maybe Schnieder aswell
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I don't see Carter's NTC being a problem. He'll gladly waive it just to get the hell out of Columbus.
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For us to fit him into the cap, we would have to let go Booth, Ballard and maybe Schnieder aswell
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Schnieds MayRay Ballard Booth plus 1st wouldn't do the trick to land Nash
It would be fucking sexy to see Nash in a Canucks uniform with him + Kesler
Nash is great, but to have trade so many pieces away for one man commanding 8mil in cap is too rich for our very balanced (now struggling) offence.

but to be honest. The canucks need a crushing Dman.
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Schnieds MayRay Ballard Booth plus 1st wouldn't do the trick to land Nash
It would be fucking sexy to see Nash in a Canucks uniform with him + Kesler
Nash is great, but to have trade so many pieces away for one man commanding 8mil in cap is too rich for our very balanced (now struggling) offence.

but to be honest. The canucks need a crushing Dman.
Fuck that. Giving up all that for a guy who has a grand total of 4 playoff games exp under his belt (all loses btw). No thanks. Much rather spend the money on a Weber instead.
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I agree with darthwilli. We need a dman but most likely won't land anyone significant at the deadline. Maybe a better 5th or 6th unless something monumental happens which would involve a large package of players..

If Higgins can get healthy and stay healthy, I can see the amex line doing very well in the playoffs. Size, strength, tenacity and that willingness to go to the front of the net.
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^ agreed.

I'm not worried about the top 6, I'm more concerned about the bottom 6. We need more grit and size. We need that kind of Dustin Byfug, Ben Bolland, Andrew Ladd kind of line/players. Those guys just grinded and wore down the opposititon so badly.
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Anyone who thinks nucks would even look at carter is nuts

MG puts character almost higher than skill when looking at players, carter would never be a Canuck under MG
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:03 PM   #16963
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I'd love to see Nash here, moreso than Weber or any other d-man in the league. But he's the type of guy that you build your team around, not bring in to complement the core you have already. We're too far into our build process to fit a guy like Nash in; too bad.

I'm not sure where people are coming from saying the Canucks need another top 6 fwd to do well. We got that guy in Booth. So prior to getting Booth, these same people were thinking we'd need 2 more top 6 fwd's to get the job done? If/when Higgins is firing on all cylinders, the 2nd line will be huge with Kes and Booth.

I believe the Sedins have been taking some time and energy off their game for the past month. It's not unusual for elite athletes to taper back their training regimen to conserve juice for the actual event--in this case the Cup run. That's the only reasonable explanation. You don't have back to back Art Ross winners play so average all of a sudden on such a regular basis. With their overwhelmingly mediocre play, the Canucks still winning, I hope this is a tactic that will payoff.
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Whats the issue with Umberger and Kesler?
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Props to coach AV for choosing players like Edler to play in the shootouts of games. He's on to something. The big Swede has ONE moves.
FYP. But it always works. I'm amazed something so simple works so consistently.

Burrows has the one move that always works too. But then he decided to change things up and be more creative. His deke to backhand top corner is unstoppable as long as he does the forehand fake properly, even if the goalie knows that the forehand is just a fake.
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Nash in a canucks uniform eh.. how sick would that be.. I wonder if Bobby Ryan can be snatched up somehow.. Ryan/Kes/Booth would be SICKKKK

I think Nash and 1st round goes to Mtl for Scott Gomez.. lol.. jk!
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my fav non-canuck player is an actual possibility? GET ON THIS MG
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Doug Maclean on Sportsnet reported the Canucks would have to give up CoHo, Schneider, Tanev and a 1st for Nash. No thanks.
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Coho,Schneider,Tanev, 1st for Nash and 1st.. I would be tempted for that if they somehow offer it lol.. 1st could= Yakupov..his favorite team are the Canucks and Bure as his fav. player lol
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Take one of those away and I'd do it.
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Nash is not worth as much as ppl think. #1 - he's limited to where he goes. #2 - $8million dollar contract, the team needs to have enough cap space and budget to pay for him. for 6 more years.

Honestly, I be happy if Gillis is able to get a player like Gaustad and/or a defenceman.
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