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Old 02-27-2012, 06:05 PM   #18676
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MG basically retooled the role of the entire third line. With Coho centering the 3rd, it was always some rendition of scoring depth. You could argue Coho didn't have the support on the 3rd line wings to be fully effective at this. So MG has built a third line now that can be 100% shut down, not expected to really contribute much officially, and that takes some defensive responsibility and PK duties away from Kesler and Burrows. Kassian has the upside to be a offensive power forward in the long term, but in the short term he is still a big body who can skate and help hold other teams' rats accountable. We don't need him to be a top 6 fwd this year and run, but if he develops to be one in the next couple years that would be awesome. So this works both long term and short term.

We'll see if he can crack the lineup consistently, will need to see him play some to decide.
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I doubt Cody asked for a trade. He sounded so choked up on TSN.
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:08 PM   #18678
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I do not watch eastern games and my first reaction was who the hell is Zach Kassian.
I think that is the reaction most Vancouverites are having. Buffalo fans are probably thinking the same about Coho.
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coho was one valuable asset, im not sure MG got the most out of this trade... prbly could have wringed out a draft pick also...

jordan schroeder isn't ready to take coho's place for sure, maybe in another year

and when the sedins get shutdown during the playoffs and we're dying for some offence... boy i'd hate to be in MG's shoes



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I get where the people who support this trade is coming from but do you think Kassian is ready for that role now?

If people are talking about the future, this deal could have been done after the season. Also still not sure why Gillis told other GM's Coho was not on the table. Not sure if we got full value on this trade.
I clearly said kassian is rough around the edges still. As for in the playoffs depending on his role he can be effective. If hes going to be playing 3rd/4th line and laying out the body hes doing a good job. If hes expected to be a scoring threat immediately he wont. Maybe in 2 years but now, no. I can see him putting up points possibly but nothing super right away. His physical play will be nice though. I can see his hits causing turnovers with rushes and momentum.
Honestly with the playoffs coming up I would have figured hodgson was going to ride the pine a lot more anyways. Completely different game in the playoffs especially when you are 3rd line. You have to win your faceoffs and be able to get back on d first, scoring next thats the bottom six. Hodgson isnt the greatest at those 2 and probably would have seen his playing time drop in the playoffs.
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We're a victim of our own success, our future players(Hodgeson, Schnieder, Tanev) have developed quicker than everyone thought and Hodgeson is the first casualty of that. I'm sure Gillis gave it a good thought before pulling the trigger. Has he done wrong yet? The biggest bust may argueably be Ballard, but if that was the worst he's done till this point, he's doing a pretty good job.

I did think to myself, it would be funny if both Kassian and Hodgeson are rentals and both ended up getting traded back after the season is over.
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he fixed that mistake really quick tho and didnt wait to see if it would pan out like most other gm's
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Lol. Forgot about Sturm but he got traded so quickly, you can't really count him
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Hodgson sounded like he was about to cry when Duthie called him during Trade Deadline
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:48 PM   #18687
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I think Pahlsson is gonna be a very good pickup for our cup run
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he fixed that mistake really quick tho and didnt wait to see if it would pan out like most other gm's
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I think some ppl are overlooking Gragnani. The guy was a point a game last year in the playoffs.

Plus, adding a power play specialist would make our PP much deadlier.
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^Sabres fans are really happy they got rid of Gragnani saying he was a turnover machine. Sounds like he needs to be paired with a guy whose defensively sound, a stay at home type defencemen.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:07 PM   #18693
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I think some ppl are overlooking Gragnani. The guy was a point a game last year in the playoffs.

Plus, adding a power play specialist would make our PP much deadlier.
I wont judge Gragnani until i see how he fits with the canucks. I think he really does demonstrate some offensive talent and he can definitely make the first pass. However, I think he doesnt really have the grit, he's pretty soft imo, but its completely different scenario over here in the west. Maybe his style will fit the canucks and the west.
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^Sabres fans are really happy they got rid of Gragnani saying he was a turnover machine. Sounds like he needs to be paired with a guy whose defensively sound, a stay at home type defencemen.
a future pairing with tanev? or sauve?

it would be like the hamhuis-bieksa pairing....bieksa the turn over machine and hamhuis there to bail him out lol
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^Sabres fans are really happy they got rid of Gragnani saying he was a turnover machine. Sounds like he needs to be paired with a guy whose defensively sound, a stay at home type defencemen.
Sabre fans think we got the short end of the stick here.

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Meh, I think Gragnani has potentials. didnt he win the Eddie Shore Award last year. truly has potentials, we'll see..
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hahaha I think its really a toss-up with Kassian's toughness as per cliffhanger's post regarding sabre fan's comments... on one hand, we need someone who is big and is willing to protect the teammates, along with providing bit hits as an energy guy. On the other hand, we don't want some badass who will be in the box all day long.

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