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					Originally Posted by PeanutButter  Does anyone know how these longshoreman applications work? I have heard you have to pay for them and I heard some crazy amounts like $30k paid to get the applicaiton.
 Apparently, they are changing the system next year so the applications are severely more limited than they already were. One of my clients is trying to get his son in and he said he offered $120k and he still might not get it.
 
 You think there's any truth to that? I don't know why he'd lie to me, but I'm just curious.
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  When they are hiring Longshoremen members get an application to give to whoever they want, usually a family member or good friend. They aren't supposed to sell them and can in deep shit if they do, but you always hear the stories of guys doing it anyways. Given the amount of greasy guys down there I'm sure it happens but who knows for how much. I've heard $40k but never $120k that would be ridiculous.  
Once the applications are handed out and signed they do a lottery from the numbers on each application and then they actually start "hiring" you and getting you trained to work there. For some clarification, the last hiring that did for Surrey/Deltaport was around 1300+ applications in 2018. They are only now getting towards the end of bringing in some of the later draws, so you technically could have spent 40k in 2018 to just start getting trained now, and it'll be another few years of getting basically no work and then maybe by year 10 you're hopefully high enough to get somewhat consistent work. 
Actually becoming a member is projected to take up to 20+ years there now. Vancouver may be different but I'm sure it's a long ass time as well.  
I think Dayshift is like $55 an hour, afternoons like $70, and graveyard like $86... So is that worth putting up $120k for a chance to one day get work? Keep in mind automation is coming eventually and labor jobs will dwindle. Tell your buddy his kid better get a red seal trade, they'll hire HD mechanics, millwrights, and electricians off the street when they need them, no application needed. You'll get more consistent work that way too.