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[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by EvoFire

It's the same here in Vancouver, there's been an overall decline of HK cafes in Vancouver in the last 15 years as the mix of Chinese people skewed towards more mainlanders. The spread has come back towards HK though. The drive has been strongly in food courts though and less sit down restaurants.

The HK cafe/food stall is really the only cultural thing that's going to survive. No one speaks Canto outside of HK and the household and Mandarin is the lingua-franca here if you're Chinese presenting. I look nothing like a typical Chinese expat and people at food stalls greet me in Mandarin.

People are going crazy for a Cha-Don opening in Coquitlam, for example.

[bcrdukes]

RIP Cantonese

[Badhobz]

its not that hard.

If i can adopt your stupid ass language, im sure these retarded kids can learn a few sentences and carry on the culture. Even if we have to beat it into them.

[bcrdukes]

I think they've been brainwashed to all speak Mandarin and learn SIMPLIFIED Chinese.

[Badhobz]

yarrr yarr yarrr ni haaorrrr marrrrr

fuck that shit, why so many R's ?!??! im not retarded.

[MG1]

When I die and there is a heaven and if I actually get to go there, I think this would be the first thing I would like to see and hear.

A goddess playing the harp, ijbol.

https://www.reddit.com/r/justgalsbei...s/s/PWEYQE07R1

The legs………… nuff said.

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by Tapioca

The HK cafe/food stall is really the only cultural thing that's going to survive. No one speaks Canto outside of HK and the household and Mandarin is the lingua-franca here if you're Chinese presenting. I look nothing like a typical Chinese expat and people at food stalls greet me in Mandarin.

People are going crazy for a Cha-Don opening in Coquitlam, for example.

I heard cha don in Coquitlam is a bit meh. But doesn't help there isn't a good alternative so it's been busy.

I don't agree that mandarin is going to take over. I'm seeing a lot of canto speakers here and the amount of HKers around the world outside of HK probably number in the millions. Sure not quite the billion mainlanders there are but not all of the billion mainlanders speak mandarin either. There's also a sizable Shanghainese community around the world as outside of Canto/Mando, Shanghainese is probably the most common spoken dialect from my experience.

Originally Posted by MG1

When I die and there is a heaven and if I actually get to go there, I think this would be the first thing I would like to see and hear.

A goddess playing the harp, ijbol.

https://www.reddit.com/r/justgalsbei...s/s/PWEYQE07R1

The legs………… nuff said.

We hired a harpist for our wedding, probably the best $250 we could have spent for the wedding.

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by MG1

When I die and there is a heaven and if I actually get to go there, I think this would be the first thing I would like to see and hear.

A goddess playing the harp, ijbol.

https://www.reddit.com/r/justgalsbei...s/s/PWEYQE07R1

The legs………… nuff said.

I will play the trumpet for you.

[bcrdukes]

Has anyone noticed Badhobz's user title?

[donk.]

Do i look like i can read chinese?

[Badhobz]

YouTube

[yray]

you can change the title now?

15 years ago, I was too jew to pay to the title fee....

[Badhobz]

not sure, i just noticed that i could..... i dont even know when i had this feature enabled.

[RabidRat]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

This is perhaps anecdotal but there seems to be a resurgence in HK cafes in Toronto and in Los Angeles. These cafes are pushing hard to maintain their cultural identify with all kinds of nostalgic lap sap and staff speak Cantonese.

I thought it was my imagination. I've been hearing a lot more cantonese speaking just randomly going to Costco and restaurants and whatever. I don't remember it being to that extent when I lived in Toronto last, a decade ago.

That definitely makes sense that there'd be some level of exodus of HKers in recent years.

[Traum]

Anecdotally, the most noticable resurgance of seeing Hong Kongers and hearing more Cantonese being spoken around the city started at around 2021 - 2022 for me at the start of the school year. I noticed it when I was dropping off and picking up my kid from school -- it was just the language being spoken by the parents, and my kid's school have also had to re-juggle their classes somewhat because of the increased student population.

Timeline-wise, recall that the massive anti-extradition (to China) protests took place between 2019 - 2020, with the heavy crack down taking place in mid (?) 2020. Since Hong Kong have always had a large Canadian expat population living there, many of them returned, esp those with young children.

As far as Cantonese' survivability overseas / outside of Hong Kong, I really don't know what to make of it. I consider myself a 1st gen immigrant to Canada since I came when I was relatively young (at elementary school age). My kid is totally fluent in (oral) Cantonese despite being born here bcos that's what we speak at home, but among my Cantonese-related friends, apparently that Cantonese fluency is a rarity among the children.

On the other hand, based purely on observation, it seems to me that regardless of whether they are born here or not, kids of Mainland Chinese descent are almost always fluent in both English and Mandarin. I have no doubt that this is likely due to the Mandarin-speaking parents poorer mastery of English, which forces these kids to speak, or at least use, Mandarin when interacting with their older family members.

I thoroughly resent the fact that the Communist Chinese gov continues to brainwash its citizens into believing that usage of any non-Mandarin Chinese languages and dialect is uncivilized, and it is extremely disappointing to see so many (Mainland Chinese) people buying into this stupid narrative to deliberately and systematically kill off other Chinese languages.

[bcrdukes]

There's a level of elitism among those types. If you don't speak Mandarin, you are just Guangdong trash.