Yeah, hope you dont need your car that badly.

Yes sir, the buck is always passed. It's like when gas prices got ridiculously high a few years back. Whenever we had materials delivered to a jobsite they added a "Fuel surcharge" fee. This will be no different, might be added directly into the cost of goods but you can guarantee it will be the consumer and not the truckers paying it when everything is said and done. It will not effect there bottom line in the least.

I used to cross that bridge multiple times a day, I'm sure with my new job I'll be doing more of the same hitting up different job sites. I'm not going to be paying for it I'll be billing my company who in turn will make adjustments to make sure it's covered on there end and again the consumer will be the one paying in the end.

What are you guys talking about? He doesn't need to renew insurance. Those suckers can't track every single person down. AMIRITE?

I renewed my insurance a month ago, no problems. No mention whatsoever of any outstanding toll fines, they sent me a letter a few months ago and said i owed them $12 and interest.

hooray for work vehicle having company paid transponders! i dont mind the toll at all..i thought it would be much worse so im happy to pay it when i venture to that side of the world. if it saves me time its well worth it for me. i hate(d) being stuck on that highway and i really hope this clears the bottleneck.

i hope they set it like it is in other countries where if u have a transponder you get cheaper rates and if u pre pay its even lower.

Because you arent at the point where its over due. You have a grace period. Trust me, even owing a dollar will make it so you cant insure a vehicle.

When do you hit that point? I went over it for the first time in july. Where do you pay it? Can you pay online?

I went over the bridge one way one time, immediately went home and put my credit card online to pay for it when it comes in.

No charges, my credit card is still on the QuickPass site, and they've sent me a couple of emails saying "You owe some coin, motherfucker" (thats a direct quote)

When I lived in Dublin and took the toll roads they let me go to a gas station and pay there. They had a little thing like a debit machine that they plugged your plate number in and took my cash right then and there.

I'd prefer that if I was a casual user of the bridge.



Also, I'd rather not see the old Port Mann bridge become a haven for crackheads and rape...er... I mean a "park"

Its a unique idea but I don't think its right for this city.

You're missing the point. The average transport trucker doesn't get paid by the hour, he gets paid by the trip/load. The faster he can get a load to its destination, the sooner he can get another load. The more loads he can haul, the more he makes. The smoother the traffic flow... the sooner he can turn around and the more he puts in his pocket.

Are the cameras sensitive enough to take pictures of TOP?

You know, they already use the bottom of the bridge as a crackhead park. thats where they gather and sleep under the bridge

I don't know whose backyard it goes through, but the Coquihalla's been paid off and they've taken the tolls down.

This is the best perspective: the left vs right ideological framework is useless 90% of the time in the real world.

That's normal for most major projects as well it's factored into the budget. It's like that with mostly any project out there from building condos/gas stations etc

They took the tolls down on the coq a couple years ago.

If you're commuting that much just to get to work, then your job must be precious and must be paying a lot to support your everyday commute. I don't see how you can't accord $3 to get to work even faster (assume that it will be).

The most important thing IN MY OPINION is getting to and from work in the least amount of time.

I used to work in surrey/langley border and i live near boundary road. Going to work takes 45 minute meaning I have to wake up 1 hour early to get to work. Now you just gotta see how much faster is this new bridge going to be for you before deciding to pay every day.

What pisses me off the most is,if they finish on time,they get a percentage of the tolls,who the fuck authorized that shit,especially when it's tax payers money.

I already know the tolls have been taken out already,but that stretch of road was tolled for like what almost 30 years.It has more than paid for itself many times over,but they still kept the toll for alot longer than needed.

That's contract negotiations. In this case the province decided that completing the project early was worth a percentage of the tolls to them.

I don't know what's so outrageous about that. Do you not get bonuses if you do well in your job?

What should really piss you off, is the fact that the Safety guys get paid just as much, if not more than the Engineers and Welders.

That's fucked up. They stand there and make sure shit is "safe". They do even less work than the Engineers, and make equal if not more than Entry Level guys.:heckno:

Anybody ever wonder who's that asshole that just stands there at every job site, watching people actually work? It's the Safety Inspector.

I don't know why this is pissing you off so much. It's not much different from the car salesman who makes commission from selling cars.

And I don't know where you're getting the toll information from. The Coquihalla toll was taken off around the time that the $848 Million cost was brought in.

I don't care what Safeway workers get,I don't shop there.

It's not the welders & engineers that get a percentage of the tolls or a cut of the bonus,it's the owners of Keiwit,the workers don't see any of it.

I would be glad if the workers got a cut of the bonus,cause these guys work their ass off on this project,they should be rewarded.

The workers aren't shareholders - it doesn't work like that. Would you also agree that the workers all get a paycut should the project be completed after the deadline?

:seriously:

How do they hire safety inspectors? Do they go to safety school or Pass a test ?,, Or they just put their own family member on site

I pay through online banking, just like I do all my bills.

And RS has t(r)olls all the time. :whistle:

So first, it's not free. And second, I think they kept the tolls for the revenue, not because it was running through someone's backyard - unless you can show me I'm wrong.

Also, just because some decisions are unintuitive to you, it doesn't mean every decision by govt is incompetent. Maybe instead of spouting off, it would be more wise to ask why first. For example, how about:

"What is their rationale for using an incentive based compensation system? Are they kicking money into their friends' pockets? Or maybe there's a justified reason that benefits tax payers, which I'm not aware of."