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Old 05-11-2012, 08:21 AM   #251
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does PRS provide bikes?? and what cc can you practice on??
they provide you with the bike and gear to practice on. I was using a Honda CRF most of the time while I was there. They had quite a few Sherpa's as well. I'm pretty sure they were 250cc's. For the ride around town I was using the blue 250 ninja they have there. PRS will allow you to use their bike's for your road test as well. I was practicing on my buddy's 09 gsx-r750 for 2 weeks then came back for the road test using the honda CRF and it was like riding a toy. My gf didn't even bother switching back to her school bike, she took her R6 on her road test and passed.
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They have Honda Rebels if you happen to be inseam challenged like me.....
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If you decide to go with PRS you'll soon realize that regardless the distance you travel whether it's across town or down one block doesn't matter. There was a guy in my class at PRS that almost got smoked crossing the road from the parking lot to the PRS office.

I'm glad you're considering taking lessons from PRS because I use everything I learned in PRS when I ride and even sometimes when I drive. I know a lot of people may think 'classroom' stuff is boring and their ego's get in the way, but Dat and Kramer made the entire experience from the first classroom day to the ride around town a fun and valuable learning experience. My gf and I were actually sad on the last day that class was ending. $800 is nothing if you're comparing your life to it.
No need to be sad. Remember, Dat has an open door policy at PRS
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you say your gf rides a r6 =| did she go straight to it or??? how is she doing with it??

and for the PRS, can you go back and just do like a drop in to get some more practice/tips ??
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:30 PM   #256
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you say your gf rides a r6 =| did she go straight to it or??? how is she doing with it??

and for the PRS, can you go back and just do like a drop in to get some more practice/tips ??
Yep, she has a Red/White 2004 R6 and has no problems with it. She's only 5'2", maybe 115lbs and we had to get it lowered for her by about an inch. I'll be honest, her riding skills are probably better than mine right now. She uses the R6 as her primary mode of transportation so she has a lot more riding hours then I do. I don't have a bike yet, and we only have 1 parking space in my building so the bike goes in front of my 335i. But I have been borrowing my friends 09 GSXR-750 whenever I want to head out.

I'm actually proud of her cause she used the R6 on her road test and passed. During the lesson I think she was using those Honda Rebels and she hated it and felt more comfortable on her R6. Kramer thought she was straight up crazy for using the R6 for the road test but it all comes down to what ever you are more comfortable with and she passed with flying colors.

We've only stopped by PRS once after our course but never really asked for tips/practice, but as for racerman88 said the school has an open door policy and you're always welcome back to visit or ask questions.

If you get Dat as your instructor, ask if he remembers Nikita and Hammer from August 2011
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^ I was more comfortable on my 600 than the sherpa as well. Got through the road test fine. People seem to blow the difficulty of riding a 600 way out of proportion and I have no idea why.
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im just worried about dumping it and fucking it up while trying to learn
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The reason people "blow it out of proportion" is that unless you've ridden around in a 250/400cc or small cc bike a fair amount taking hard corners and stuff, it is much harder to understand the throttle/body/turning control if you start with a 600cc.

You don't go to the gym and start doing two plate squats, why would you learn a motorcycle on a 600cc? Then again, this is Canada and we're relatively limited in our selection of low cc bikes.

My opinion comes from owning and riding a 400cc (standard) bike for a few months. It was a breeze to learn on and very forgiving. It was very easy to control throttle and go into turns and adjust mid-way. When I first rode my 600cc, it was a heavy ass mother fucker that performed in no-way like 400cc in ANY aspect. It took some thinking to understand how to make the 600cc ride like the 400. Took me a while before I could take a corner faster, harder, and more confident.

If I could, I'd still ride a 400cc. It's the perfect commuter bike, cheap on insurance, you can't really get in trouble (speed), and it's a fucking blast in the twisties with it being so light.

So no, people aren't blowing it out of proportion. It is completely true (you think Dat, Karmer, Chris, and Horse are lying to you?) that lower CC to start with is great. Besides, The Doc started racing scooters and worked his way up....what makes you think you're better than him? lol
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Gdoh, you'll be fine. I would recommend finishing the course, then hop on your own bike first though. I fixed my PM if you want to send me a message.

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The reason people "blow it out of proportion" is that unless you've ridden around in a 250/400cc or small cc bike a fair amount taking hard corners and stuff, it is much harder to understand the throttle/body/turning control if you start with a 600cc.

You don't go to the gym and start doing two plate squats, why would you learn a motorcycle on a 600cc? Then again, this is Canada and we're relatively limited in our selection of low cc bikes.

My opinion comes from owning and riding a 400cc (standard) bike for a few months. It was a breeze to learn on and very forgiving. It was very easy to control throttle and go into turns and adjust mid-way. When I first rode my 600cc, it was a heavy ass mother fucker that performed in no-way like 400cc in ANY aspect. It took some thinking to understand how to make the 600cc ride like the 400. Took me a while before I could take a corner faster, harder, and more confident.

If I could, I'd still ride a 400cc. It's the perfect commuter bike, cheap on insurance, you can't really get in trouble (speed), and it's a fucking blast in the twisties with it being so light.

So no, people aren't blowing it out of proportion. It is completely true (you think Dat, Karmer, Chris, and Horse are lying to you?) that lower CC to start with is great. Besides, The Doc started racing scooters and worked his way up....what makes you think you're better than him? lol

Where did I say I'm better than them?
With that statement you're basically saying that anyone who graduated from PRS and went straight to a 600cc bike thinks they're better. Of course it'll be easier to ride and learn/adapt on a smaller bike and everyone learns at their own pace and their own way. Look, all it comes down to is what you're comfortable riding on. If you (Not saying you are struggling, just saying people in general) struggle adapting to a higher CC bike then it's probably best to stick with a lower CC bike. If your preference is a 400cc because it's lighter and more maneuverable then all the power to you.

I'm speaking by my own experience and yours may be different. Before the course I was actually scared to sit on the 600rr at the school and didn't think I'd be riding a a 600cc bike for at least 2 years. But the more confidence and knowledge I got through PRS the more comfortable I was with my own skills. Riding once a week rain or shine I got used to the 600/750cc pretty easily and used everything I learned in the school on every ride. Doesn't matter what bike I've ridden whether it's the school's CRF to my other buddies R1 and everything in between, I adapt to it and only ride within my own limit, not the bike's physical limit.
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Alright guys. Let's all calm down.

I know we all want to be the next Valentino Rossi but opinions are opinions. If you can ride a 600cc bike, good for you. If you started out with a 250 then moved on to a 600, good for you too.

Let's leave them at that.
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So no, people aren't blowing it out of proportion. It is completely true (you think Dat, Karmer, Chris, and Horse are lying to you?) that lower CC to start with is great. Besides, The Doc started racing scooters and worked his way up....what makes you think you're better than him? lol
Whoa, whoa.

Just because it wasn't as bad as people say it is (that supposedly you'd flip over the handlebars on the slightest application of the brakes, or instant death on the slightest twitch of the throttle) doesn't mean anyone's accusing you of anything.

It's harder to start on a 600, sure. I'm just saying it's not impossible like the general consensus seems to be. I was going to start on a 125, then go to 250, then maybe a 400 before a 600, and I thought that wouldn't be for at least another two years. All because of the hype. And then bcrdukes happened - read below.

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Alright guys. Let's all calm down.

I know we all want to be the next Valentino Rossi but opinions are opinions. If you can ride a 600cc bike, good for you. If you started out with a 250 then moved on to a 600, good for you too.

Let's leave them at that.
I just wanted to add that you PERSONALLY convinced me to buy the 600 . Back on page 2 of this thread, I said I was going to start on a CBR125R based on what I'd be reading, and then by page 3, quoted a couple posts from other forums explaining why I had to. And then you went through and categorically dismissed each point. So I went ahead and bought the 600. It was fine.
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Yeah I'd start on a beater bike too. I specifically looked for a bike I gave zero fucks about aesthetically, for that purpose.

Oh, and frame sliders. Get them. =)
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I just wanted to add that you PERSONALLY convinced me to buy the 600 . Back on page 2 of this thread, I said I was going to start on a CBR125R based on what I'd be reading, and then by page 3, quoted a couple posts from other forums explaining why I had to. And then you went through and categorically dismissed each point. So I went ahead and bought the 600. It was fine.
Yes, and that's true. You had already taken the course at PRS and you started off on a 250cc. I got the impression based on your posts you were comfortable enough to write off a 125cc. With the amount of time and effort they put you through on a 250cc, it's ample enough for you to move on up to a bigger bike, be it a status quo 250, 400, 500, or 600cc. Heck, if you're brave enough (not you per se) go for a litre bike.

What it boils down to is your personal comfort level. I haven't been keeping up with the thread as much as you other guys have but if gdoh and other members haven't taken the course yet or are still in the middle of the course, they can make up their minds as to whats best for them later on. We can't decide for them what works best for them. It is their onus to make that decision. Remember - we were all at one point in the same spot as him. Look at where we are now.

In your case, you started out with a 250cc at PRS. Picking up a 125cc was not what I would personally suggest. It's a kick to the balls. But if you personally weren't comfortable going to a 600cc, then that's fine too. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. You would have realized very soon that you would outgrow the capabilities of your 125cc based on your needs and go through the perils of selling it to some noob while trying to find another bike. And why did I recommend a 600cc to you personally? As Alphamale pointed out, there is a lack of 400 to 500cc bikes. Are there more 600cc bikes? Sure as hell there are. We don't know what gdoh is going to do. Whether it's touring, getting from A to B or carving canyons and twisties. For me - I'm just a fucking Starbucks poseur.

Let's all hug and kiss one another at the next meet (that's if we even have one) and maybe even a circle jerk. I love you all.
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It's too tall

Perhaps I should lower it or trade it for a not-so sports bike.

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Perhaps I should lower it or trade it for a not-so sports bike.

Perhaps standard?
Well, like I said, it boils down to what kind of riding you want to do. If it's just to boot around town comfortably, I'd say sell the GSX-R and get a standard. If you want the thrill and excitement of carving corners, lower the bike properly to suit your height.

As much as I like my cafe SR500, there are days where I wish I had a standard bike to ride like a Triumph Bonneville or something. Other than that, I'm just a Starbucks poseur.
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