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SEBBB!!!!!!! WHAT A RACE! good win for jenson as well. gon be rock my jacket today! wooooooooo |
VETTEL! :fuckyea: Like Great68 said, too soon :lol Also, I was pretty impressed with Hulkenburg minus his accident. Didn't know he was that good! |
Great race! Too bad for Hamilton; nice racing by Hulkenburg, too bad he lost it there to take out LH. Awesome win by Button! Congrats to Ferrari for taking 2nd in the constructors. Nice driving from Vettel to get back into contention, after the spin, & congratulations for winning the driver's championship! |
Yeah awesome drive by Hulkenberg. When he was leading, I was rooting for him to win. |
Most entertaining race of the season, what a finale! |
Awesome race, my favorite driver! |
Great race wow. Kimi going off track and pulling a u turn was hilarious. |
ABSOLUTELY THE BEST RACE OF THE SEASON! Probably on par with 2007(Kimi Raikkonen winning in Brazil) and 2008 Spa(Hamilton vs. Kimi) They wanted Abu Dhabi as the penultimate race of the season? FUCK THAT SHIT! BRAZIL FTW! Race could not have gone any better, their was so many "OH FUCK!" and "HOLY SHIT!" moments in this race, IT WAS SO FUCKING EXCITING! Especially in the beginning when Vettel spun and thought he was done for the race with the Ferrari duo fighting with Webber/Hulkenburg/Button/Hamilton I can't believe people still doubt Button's abilities! That guy is absolutely BEASTLY in changing/wet conditions(refer to Canada) :) Fantastic drive by Jenson Button! and gotta give credit to Vettel for not giving up and coming from the back of the field! Good drive by Hulkenburg, that guy absolutely LOVES Sau Paulo! I'll probably put some money down for him to get a podium next year if the Sauber car is half-decent. And good to see Massa back on form, should be a great 2013 season :) Kimi taking a detour towards the old Sau Paulo circuit was priceless LOL I was laughing my ass off, imagine if he kept driving and finished a lap and was like WTF?! Good luck Schumi :( Too bad Mercedes wasn't able to give you a car to challenge for wins and podiums. It was a pretty special moment when I saw Schumi and Vettel hug it out. Gotta give props to Hamilton for thanking his team after the race, must've been one shitty feeling when it's your last race with your team and leading the race than getting hit! Hulkenburg apologized to Hamilton after too, props to hm as well! A great end to a pretty amazing season! Next up, RACE OF CHAMPIONS! Vettel/Schumi as defending champions for Germany :) |
Seen this on Jalopnik http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/186f...cmt-medium.jpg ...and from Lotus GP's official Twitter Page LoL! http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/186i...g/original.jpg |
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Wow at Vettel's car. That thing is a tank. How did it not retire? |
He is just a great driver. I could see in the shots that it looked a lot more twitchy than some of the other cars. He is the next Schumacher (in regards of dominance in the sport) IMO. |
awesome fucking race i didnt get to go :okay: but it was an epic watch! :tears: schumi, had to make an extra stop, gave a place to vettel and still in top 10 sigh he should go to Lotus and take Grosjeans seat! team lotus with kimi and michael :fullofwin: :okay: |
BBC Sport - Formula 1: Ferrari consider Sebastian Vettel protest From BBC News: Formula 1: Ferrari consider Sebastian Vettel protest By Andrew Benson Chief F1 writer Ferrari want to establish whether there is enough evidence to lodge a protest that, if successful, could overturn the result of the Formula 1 world championship. They are "evaluating footage" that appears to show Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel making an illegal overtaking move in Sunday's Brazilian Grand Prix. Spain's Fernando Alonso lost the title by three points to his German rival. But Vettel could lose four points if he is deemed to have broken the rules. Formula 1's governing body, the FIA, has so far refused to confirm that it is investigating the incident. There is no word either from Vettel's Red Bull team, who could not be contacted for a comment. Final F1 standings 1. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull 281 2. Fernando Alonso - Ferrari 278 3. Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus 207 4. Lewis Hamilton - McLaren 190 5. Jenson Button - McLaren 188 Video footage from Vettel's on-board camera appears to show him passing Toro Rosso's Jean-Eric Vergne in a yellow 'caution' zone on lap four of Sunday's race. If that is the case and if any protest is made and upheld, it could result in a retrospective 20-second penalty for the German. That would drop the 25-year-old from sixth to eighth, costing him valuable points and a third successive world title. Alonso, who finished the race at Interlagos in second place behind Jenson Button, would then top the standings by a single point. The 31-year-old Alonso, who was world champion in 2005 and 2006, is believed to be pushing Ferrari to make an official protest to the FIA. However, the governing body does not need Ferrari to act to investigate further. In fact, its own rules appear to oblige it to do so. Article 179b of the international sporting code says: "If, in events forming part of an FIA championship, a new element is discovered, whether or not the stewards of the meeting have already given a ruling, these stewards of the meeting or, failing this, those designated by the FIA must meet… summoning the party or parties concerned to hear any relevant explanations and to judge in the light of the facts and elements brought before them." It adds: "The period during which an appeal in review may be brought expires on 30 November of the year during which the decision that is liable to review has been handed down, if that decision is likely to have an effect on the result of a championship." That appears to give the FIA until Friday to resolve the situation one way or another. Drivers must proceed with caution and overtaking is strictly forbidden in a yellow zone - indicated by yellow flags and flashing trackside yellow lights. If a driver is caught overtaking in a yellow-flag zone, the punishment is either to drive through the pits at restricted speed if the race is still under way, or 20 seconds added to a driver's race time if the incident takes place close to the end of the race or is investigated after the race. The footage in question was not shown on the main global 'world feed' during the race as it was showing repeats of the start at the time. However, it has since been posted on the video-sharing site YouTube. The video is now available to watch on the BBC Sport website and is embedded at the top of this article. Play media Sebastian Vettel Vettel's road to glory in 2012 The footage shows Vettel passing two flashing yellow lights then overtaking Vergne down the straight, completing the move before reaching a flashing green light, indicating the end of the yellow zone. Rules dictate that the 'yellow' zone ends only when the driver passes the first 'green' indicator. Drivers are alerted to caution zones by an indicator on their car's dashboard display. The yellow flag indicator in Vettel's cockpit is on the whole time. If there is any discrepancy between what is displayed on a driver's dashboard and what is being displayed on the track, then the trackside flags and lights take precedence. It is possible that Vettel thought he was free to overtake Vergne because he saw a marshal waving a green flag at the exit of the pit lane. In other words, before he made his manoeuvre. A green flag is waved by a marshal at that post as Vettel passes the Marussia of Charles Pic on lap three, but it is not clear whether it was still being waved on lap four. Some videos have appeared on the internet that seem to show an official waving a green flag but it is not clear on official television footage. The likelihood of any protest being lodged or of any action being taken depends on whether Ferrari or the FIA can establish whether there was a green flag waving at that marshals' post at that time. If there was, the case will be closed and no further action will be taken. If there was not a green flag, it is highly likely that the case will go before the FIA Court of Appeal. Under a strict interpretation of the rules, the Court of Appeal would seem to have little option in that scenario to impose a penalty. But it may well feel it has to evaluate how much of an effect on the result of the race a drive-through penalty for Vettel at the time would have had. BBC Sport asked the FIA: - If the stewards of the Brazilian Grand Prix had investigated the incident in question during the race. - If there was a green flag waved on lap four at the marshals' post on the inside of the track after the exit of Turn Three. - If the FIA was now investigating the incident. The FIA declined to comment. |
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oh yeah Vettel not getting penalized for passing on a Yellow was expected by me but everyone was pretty up in arms about it but i thought it was Vettel passing Kobayashi on a yellow? or was there another incident too? expected he wouldnt get penalized since Vettel is Bernies boytoy |
^not sure, didn't notice that one. Just when you think the season is over, oh the drama! Axis of Oversteer website seems to think the pass in question was a legit pass. Axis Of Oversteer: Case closed. We looked up two things, an FIA track map with the marshaling positions indicated and a clearer copy of the onboard which you can see frame by frame from turn 3 on. I rocked the few frames where the marshal on the left side of the track is visible waving what, though not clear, we have to assume is a green flag. Vettel makes the pass after that green flag station so it's all legal. Where did the confusion arise? Well, the lights on Vettel's dashboard are still on at that point and stay on until he passes the next light station. The dashboard lights are perhaps tied to transponders at light station as opposed to marshal positions (they don't always match) but flags still take precedence. Below, laps 3 and part of 4, where Vettel passes the Marussia (notice the lack of top speed on the RB8 at this point) and then the Toro Rosso, Notice also that on lap 3 the flag station on the right at the exit of T3 is green while on lap 4 it becomes yellow and keep in mind the camera does not see as well as the human eye would in those conditions. Final verdict? It was in fact heads up racing by Vettel, like a Champion would drive. |
ah just looked in the Koba pass is supposedly legit |
^Hmmm, supposedly it was red/yellow, which only means debris or slippery track. According to Charlie Whiting, Vettel's pass was legit! 'Vettel pass was legal' - FIA's Whiting insists - GPUpdate.net Quote:
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Looks like Ferrari has accepted the FIAs response! :thumbs: BBC Sport - Formula 1: Ferrari say Sebastian Vettel complaint is 'closed' Quote:
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Minor news but looks like HRT won't be on the grid next year. I wonder if it'll be down to 22 cars next year or we'll see a new (or old one comeback) team Posted via RS Mobile |
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