[Confidential] Cant get any women

[NLY]

Originally Posted by Glove

there are some unwritten rules.

if Asian guy:

if your asian and your targetting white chicks, especially being "mentally a virgin" you will NEVER get one. it takes massive game to get a white chick if your asian, and you dont have it, not yet.

but on a more serious note, I believe OP is just looking for a quick easy lay in which he doesn't have to pay for. That's somewhat understandable because he's in his early 20's. If I was in OP's situation, I would focus less on trying to get tail every weekend and spend more time improving myself. Like others have mentioned, it's important to have other interests and hobbies in which you can improve your own self-esteem. You could join a running club (usually tons of fit chicks) or go learn a new language. (usually a lot of one-on-one attention)

I'm not trying to give you avenues in which can land you an easy lay, but it's definitely going to improve your chances if that's what you want.

[GGnoRE]

You say you got confidence, but if you can't get any girls into a sexual relationship, then you ain't got any confidence. Sorry.
Go on pick-up-artist forums and learn some basics to improve your game. I've seen countless number of guys like you (can't get girls, resort to prostitutes type) recieving help there.
Stop paying for escorts because thats cheating and your game will never improve, if not getting worse.

I go to UBC and I see nerds getting laid all the time. Why can't you?

[smarv]

I think what you need to do is find a friend thats a girl, someone you can talk to that will help your confidence with talking to women. Once you can talk and joke with any girl like shes one of your friends your set. And how did you send a 1000 messages and not get one response back? for every 10 I've sent I've gotten 1-2 responses back. pm me a link to your pof profile i can help you out with some tips. And stop paying for escorts save that money for a nicer car, girls don't like taking transit.

PS. pussy is free if you apply yourself.

[Glove]

Originally Posted by Gridlock

how do I get laid from people that are like hookers for free?

isnt that what everyone thinks when their 20? lol

when I was 20 I didnt care about relationships, as much pussy as possible is all that mattered, and for as little money as possible.

if he was 30, ya, but he's 20. dude just wants some pootang, and hookers be expensive,

the only thing alarming about his post is the castration thing, that is fucked up, in which case I agree with you that this guy needs some therapy.

[BrRsn]

OP try not to always be the nice guy. Never EVER give a girl a compliment in a club, especially as the first thing you say. That only makes you look like 1) You're trying to get in her pants 2) you're drunk off your ass and just being a horny dog (Which brings us back to #1).

Learn to playfully make fun of girls, get to know them a bit, act interested in what they talk about, ask questions, then compliment/number exchange. Not many girls casually have sex with guys they meet randomly (unless intoxicated), life isn't a porno. You're not gonna be driving along highway 1 one day, when you see a 10/10 blond in a short skirt and high heels with a flat tire on her 2010 335i, and you being the chivalrist man you are, go and change her spare tire for her. And she doesn't have any means of paying you back so you end up in some pseudo barter based business relationship in which she has sex with you on the side of the road as a means of repayment for you fixing her flat tire. It doesn't work like that.


Anyways .. start going to the gym, start lifting some weights, get your testosterone and confidence up. If you still can't get anything out of it, at least the escorts won't cringe when your 130lb pale skinny fat body walks through the door.

Getting laid isn't the end all be all. I'm pretty sure you feel pretty cold + worse than you did before going to the escort. Learn to control your emotions and your mind. Have some discipline with yourself, become something, be a man .. maybe fall in love .. maybe fill that void and need for gratification you have with a relationship. Maybe spend the money you spend on escorts on a nice girl and taking her out to dinners ..

Be real with yourself. You need to meet a certain physical criteria to be one of those guys that gets with random chicks all the time. If you have a 5/10 face you can make up for it with a 8/10 body.

[Gridlock]

Originally Posted by Glove

isnt that what everyone thinks when their 20? lol

when I was 20 I didnt care about relationships, as much pussy as possible is all that mattered, and for as little money as possible.

if he was 30, ya, but he's 20. dude just wants some pootang, and hookers be expensive,

the only thing alarming about his post is the castration thing, that is fucked up, in which case I agree with you that this guy needs some therapy.

You know there is a healthy portion of guys that meet girls, date the same girl and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Not everyone is in the game of nailing a pure volume of women.

[dachinesedude]

post a picture of yourself, might answer a lot of the questions

im not joking, nohomo

[Verdasco]

maybe no pics of face but body so dhillon can examine which part exactly you should focus getting big on

and lay off the fucking escorts. They are for LOSERS. PERIOD.... At such an early age, you can get self confidence back easily but lay off the bad habits first!

[!Kodamu]

sounds like joe45

[kwy]

Stop being a desperate wuss. Man up.

Read this.

http://www.pauljanka.com/downloads/GettingLaidInNYC.pdf

[kwy]

Originally Posted by Glove

alright im going to go somewhere you might not like,

what race are you?

this matters because,

there are some unwritten rules.

if Asian guy:

you increase your chances of targeting reserved and conservatively raised asian females, they are raised to date only other asian men, and are submissive, hopefully sooner the better, before they realise there is other stuff out there, also if they are religious, and you are of the same religion, its almost guarantee'd to get in their pants.

if your asian and your targetting white chicks, especially being "mentally a virgin" you will NEVER get one. it takes massive game to get a white chick if your asian, and you dont have it, not yet.

if you want a persian/brown girl and your asian, you probably have less than 1% of getting one, its probably the rarest pair up, and i've never seen one personally. Dont bother with this one.

Been there, done that. If you want something but put up mental barriers like this for yourself, you won't get it. You gotta have the right attitude.

[Jegz]

come clubbing with me one night. ill show u the ways

[dasuperstar]

hmmmmm my 0.02

*$150 x 25 escorts = $3750 waste money
*Do an AIDS test you might have one

Dude you're still young... don't rush... focus in school/career... down the road you'll find one....love will find its way

[Verdasco]

go to the gym 4 days a week and you can be grabbin the ladies with ease

Zyzz Life Journey & His Progress With Girls - YouTube

[El Bastardo]

The following is a reply from the anonymous member

Hi guys. First of all I want to thank everyone who has responded. I have studied every response and since some overlap, I'll answer them as honestly as I can. After all, I'm doing this confidentially for a reason. Here goes, long post, bare with me.

Originally Posted by MindBomber

First, you sound like a little bitch making excuses, you don't need to live in res to date.


Second, if all you're trying to do is get girls to bed, of course you can't get any. Girls don't find being the equivalent of a free hooker appealing!


Third, you think spamming messages to girls on a site NOTORIOUS for people looking for quick fucks is an effective dating strategy?


Fourth, CHEMICALLY FUCKING CASTRATED, so you can focus on school and work?!


Rather than spending time associating with real people who you could actually develop meaningful relationships, whether they include physical intimacy or not, you spend time on the internet and fucking hookers. Now, because you haven't had your dick in a pussy that wasn't paid for, you want to castrate yourself. You don't need to get more game, you need a fucking reality check.


Close your POF account. Close your accounts on whatever forums you're isolating yourself from society on. Go out and meet real people. Join a club to make more friends, ask someone in one of your classes if they're interested in studying together or grabbing a coffee. If you're as charming as you portray yourself as and you have the ability to make girls laugh, people will be interested in forming friendships with you and given time you will find a girl interested in a relationship with you. Don't fuck it up by trying to make sex an urgent priority and eventually it will lead to the bedroom.

Im usually at school around 9am and stay until 6-8pm. For most of the day I'm studying and have 2-3 hours of classes in between so its not like I'm sitting at home all day. I stopped going on POF and the escort sites for a little while now.


Im not saying I'm charming, thats my problem. Im not charming enough to get girls in bed. I can make them laugh but can never lead it anywhere. For example:


I was talking to this one girl in one of my class groups and told her how when i get black out drunk I only respond to "Vincent" and i dont know why. She was laughing her ass off the whole time and then she brought it up again today in our group meeting and kept laughing about it. Then i added a few more jokes and everyone kept laughing. My point is i really amn't that socially awkward guy that sits in the back of the class praying for a girl to come up to him and start talking lol.


The reason I looked into chem castration because I wouldn't be attracted to girls and i wouldn't have to worry about being horny or anything and can concentrate on more important things in life like school and work. I talked to a doctor in chinatown and he said he would give me a shot of 2mg triptolerin and increase it if i really have to. Ill give myself a few months, if i can make some progress with girls then its ok, if not, then ill think about it more.

Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo

1. Get a job
2. Study smart, not hard
3. Join some clubs
4. Make some friends
5. Work out -> key. The idea is not get jacked and huge, the idea is to get fit.
6. Run, and get into the habit of running often.
7. Get off facebook, (and RS), anything social media, limit it.
8. At every opportunity to hang out with friends do it. Thats the best way to meet mutual people so you don't seem creepy.
9. Go shopping with a fashion friend that actually knows fashion and get them to pick you out a new warddrobe.
10. Get a haircut from a good stylist, gay guys actually make great haircuts.
12. Get into some cool hobbies that you are actually into. (No video games though)
13. Get contacts if you have glasses.
14. Ramp up your hygenie to tip top shape.
15. Move out if you haven't yet. If its not possible, then do it ASAP.
16. Read "No more Mr. Nice guy" No More Mr. Nice Guy
17. Thank my post. (optional)

i think i have most of those down except moving out. I want to save up for a downpayment before I move. Other then that, my hobbies include working out, finance and cars. None of which are appealing to girls.

Originally Posted by Lamboda

I feel that I need to question your confidence. If you're confident you wouldn't really have to post this. If you're confident you wouldn't resort to dating sites or escorts for sex. I'm not bashing on you nor am I judging you because who am I to judge?


I have to say that sure laughing does make a girl feel comfortable and it does boost your self-esteem, but in the end are you laying down some romantic or sexual signals? You can make a girl laugh all you want but it isn't going to put her in your bed at the end of the night. You need to make it more intimate. If you don't have charm then go get it. Skills are developed through trial and error.


Listen I know you're pretty horny or in drought according to the message you convey, but by doing these things you're being desperate. And no matter how confident you are women will still smell the stench of desperateness and it isn't attractive. And dude, you're totally in need of sex man take a step back and look at what you're even considering. I can't believe you even thought about taking away your mangravy. Get a grip son, go out meet a ton of women. I assure you that if you start making romatic and sexual suggestions, one day you will score. But at the same time you're gonna get a lot of rejections.

I do meet a lot of girls but if i mate romantic or sexual suggestions, doesnt that just make me come off as creepy and desperate? Anotehr example, the girl i was talking about earlier randomly said "fuck me" in the middle of our meeting (she was getting frustrated on googledoc editing or something) but i didn't say anything even though in the back of my head i wanted to go "i can help you with that" or something similar lol.. but that would just come off as creepy... and even though i used the same girl as an example, I'm not obsessed with her or anything. Theres a lot of similar situations that have happened with other girls.

Originally Posted by Jmac

OP sounds completely anti-social and it sounds to me like he's equating sex to social acceptance.


I would seriously consider seeing a therapist/psychologist to find out why. This isn't anything remotely close to normal behavior.


OP: Out of curiosity, why did your last GF break up with you?

I wouldn't hang out with her enough and wouldn't give her enough attention. I dont know wtf she expected, we went out for around 3 months and we always just went out to eat and hang out. The farthest i got with her was making out with her and thats it. I know its not all about sex but making out gets boring eventually.

Originally Posted by !Yaminashi

The more you think about it, The less you'll get

I tried that, then I would just never bother talking to any girls. Dont know how that works.

Originally Posted by TheNewGirl

You are looking for the wrong girls dude.


First of all stop looking for easy sex.
Second of all, get a hobby, one that involves group activities that you genuinely enjoy.
Date girls involved in the shit you like.
Practice talking to people by talking to strangers on the bus (use that long ass commute of yours to your advantage). Especially girls but really and seriously any one will do. Being able to approach people you don't know in a way that's not off putting is a seriously important and under valued skill that it sounds like you need to learn.


If you just want sex keep paying your hookers.
If you actually want a girl friend you gotta get off your ass and try and acknowledge that your investment is going to be time, rejection and self work.


Lastly, get the fuck over yourself. I second the therapist suggestion. If you're so obsessed with getting laid that it's an issue you seriously have to address. Use your god damn hand, rub one out and then go deal with the rest of your life.

I can talk to random strangers easily. I drive so cant meet girls on the bus but I talk to girls randomly in bookstore lineups, subway lineup, girls that sit next to me in class, everywhere. Even one of the girls I talked to in class, Im going to be studying with her next week for finals but i dont expect anything sexual to come out of it.

Originally Posted by dinosaur

wow dude. calm the fuck down and stop fucking escorts.


question: do you actually want a girlfriend to have a relationship with...or do you want a girl friend to fuck?


your post REEKS of desperation...and us chicks, do NOT like desperation. Anyone who sends out 1000 POF messages does not appear to be seriously looking for a relationship. You say you don't have trouble talk to women...but do they have a problem with you talking to them? what is their body language? how do they verbally respond? do you have female friends (and only friends)? Do girls talk to YOU?


Like I said...figure out what you want. 1- a chick DTF, or 2- a gf. If you want DTF....act like a player...be all cocky and shit (i think most of the RS dudes can help u with that). If you want a gf....act like YOURSELF! Don't be creepy....don't try to take a DTF and turn her into a girlfriend....dont send out 1000s of message hoping ANYONE responds...be picky...show some class and have some fucking standards.


Just relax...it will happen....don't be so focused on it b/c it maybe border on obsessive.


Oh...one last piece of advice. When do you finally get a gf...and you are lying in bed having "the talk" about past relationship and sex....FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, do NOT tell her have spent thousands fucking hookers. Also, stop it. Now. That shit is sick. You are 20 yo, not a horny 60 yo man. Use your hand or if need be, a blow-up doll. And, by fucking hookers...you are ruining it for yourself...the first time with a new gf will not be the same. They are professionals for a reason.

I got responses on POF but it never lead anywhere. I got like 2 numbers but they just flaked when we set a time to meet up for coffee. I have female friends at school but none that i talk to on a daily basis. Ive never had a girl tell me she has a problem talking to me nor does their body language show they dont want to be there. Like i said, I can make them laugh easily and i know how to laugh at myself so I dont know why a girl wouldn't want to talk to me when i can make her laugh. And no, girls dont randomly come up to me to talk to me.

Originally Posted by Gridlock

Tough love time.


I can smell your desperation from here. Women, who actually have an active interest in sensing desperation can catch the whiff a mile away.


You need to, today, stop trying to get your 20 year old ass laid.


Instead, you need to start working to get your 22 year old ass laid.


Let's get the basics out of the way here. This ain't a make-over question, "what can i do to make myself more appealing to women?" I'm sure there are things you can do to make yourself more attractive, but we need to solve some base items here.


You sir, have an addiction. I don't know you, so everything here on in is an educated guess.


I think you are addicted to sex. If you approach women with the #1 goal of them being there to fuck, that's a problem. You are now used to the transaction of sex, and treat this system like a way to save $200 when you get laid.


Even the sluttiest of women need to be a little wined and dined man!


You need to start getting your mind around the idea that you may have a problem here that you can't solve alone. Dousing yourself in Axe is NOT going to solve the issue that you don't respect yourself, or women.


Going on. I'm going to say this, and I don't mean it in the insulting way, but you are a loser. If you have sent out 1000 messages on POF, and not had ONE SINGLE REPLY-then you are doing something wrong. I used to troll a bit on POF and its not that hard.


Sample dialogue: "Hi, I'm Gridlock! Did it hurt?"


Lady, "did what hurt?"


"Oh! when you fell from heaven. Man, I can't believe women still fall for that! But you did. That means you like cheezy jokes, and I'm full of them..."


Then just continue on.


That's just one thing, but if you want people's help here, you need to be honest with us.


Why are you a loser?


What are 1000 women online, and 100's in class and bars and restaurants and working at the grocery store seeing that YOU aren't?


Be honest...Are you:


fat?
ugly?
dress poorly?
poor personal hygiene?
broke?
no confidence?


I'm going to assume you were bullied in school.


Here's the deal though. You can change it.


I can name tons of people that go through life as a loser and do nothing to change it. They end up drinking and alone, thinking, fuck, if only I had done something when I was 20.


Sorry to be harsh, but be honest so we can help.

Well I wont be in school at 22 and if I am it will be grad school. If i cant get laid right now, theres not much chances ill get laid 2+ years from now when Im working and not meeting new girls everyday. Heres answers to your questions.


fat? - see pic at bottom
ugly? - friends always said no. Even though Im paying escorts but they usually say why i dont find a non-escort.
dress poorly? - not to sound like a douchebag but i wear fitted shirts and overall I'm good with fashion so I'm sure i dont dress like shit.
poor personal hygiene? - shower everyday/ after every workout
broke? - kind of
no confidence? - i like to think I'm pretty confident in real life... I dont know if there is any correlation but I'm in a communications class so I'm able to make long speeches in front a lot of people without any problems.. meaning I'm not unconfident

Originally Posted by Gridlock

Here's how it goes:


Him:
"Hi!Here's a funny joke."
Her

Him:
"That WAS funny. Wanna fuck?"

Her

Him:

lol im not that bad

Originally Posted by PJ

As shallow as it is, get some nice clothes, get your look sorted out, hit the gym and clean up your diet. There's a reason why these guys get the girls. Argue as much as you want, it's just how the world works.


Why do you think there's so many idiots out there with attractive girlfriends/boyfriends


Once you've cleaned up your look, get your work life in order to set yourself aside from the good looking morons.

i know what you mean. But not to sound like a douche again but I'm the most jacked person out of my group of friends and 99% of people in my classes. I have a long way to go to get my dream body but I'm happy with how far I've gotten.

Originally Posted by Glove

alright im going to go somewhere you might not like,


what race are you?


this matters because,


there are some unwritten rules.


if Asian guy:


you increase your chances of targeting reserved and conservatively raised asian females, they are raised to date only other asian men, and are submissive, hopefully sooner the better, before they realise there is other stuff out there, also if they are religious, and you are of the same religion, its almost guarantee'd to get in their pants.


if your asian and your targetting white chicks, especially being "mentally a virgin" you will NEVER get one. it takes massive game to get a white chick if your asian, and you dont have it, not yet.


if you want a persian/brown girl and your asian, you probably have less than 1% of getting one, its probably the rarest pair up, and i've never seen one personally. Dont bother with this one.




if your white:


your BEST odds are targeting Asian chicks who were born here, and are white washed. They ALL want white guys, and are the easiest to get because they dont require "money" or "status" very much until later years, and are just happy to land a white dude, your still young so this is your highest chance of getting one.


white chicks are possible if your white, but they feel like they have some sort of entitlement complex in vancouver, unless your really good looking, or are well off, or have some sort of status, you wont get one. White chicks feel they are better, thus they want better.


if your into brown/persian chicks, this is possible when white, but takes a lot of work and prep time, their families are even more strict on this than asian ones. You dont have a lot of experience, so I would avoid these ones for now, too much work for you to successfully get one, for now.




if your persian/brown


your highest chances are:


again, white washed asian chicks, they are open to the idea of it, and are just happy to get anything other than asian dudes.


or brown chicks, their families will approve of it, and thats major when it comes to them, and most of them only ever date other brown/persian guys, and never stray from that idea.


white chicks are also open to brown/persian guys, but mostly rich ones unfortunatly.

Yea your right, I never really thought about it but I'm starting to think it might be a big part of why i dont get laid. Im brown and my people dont exactly have the best reputation in getting laid lol. Might also be why i didn't get many responses on POF because the girls probably make a lot of assumptions. And thats ok with me, I probably would be picky on race if I could get laid with anyone I want.


My ex gf was white btw. And all the girls I've seen before her were white as well. I was born/raised in vancouver so I'm pretty whitewashed and dont really connect with girls from my background.

Originally Posted by Gridlock

Oh, I dig. And if he came in saying, "gee, I'm awkward around women and I'm a 20 year old virgin and can't really talk to women" then all the advice is good.


But he didn't.


He bought himself out of one problem and now has some issues as a result.


I read his post, and it comes across as: how do I get laid from people that are like hookers for free?


I think his main problem that brings him here is he can no longer afford $200 a fuck.


I'm not going to help him with that one. I'm going to be honest. I read this shit and I think in the back of my head, this is the guy that turns to rape.


Let's see what checks out on that: he has no respect for women(I don't give a shit what decisions the escorts have made to get there in their lives, he is enabling that by taking advantage of them) and if he can't get a response from 1000 fucking women online on a website that is basically "adult friend finder" then I'm not the only one that has come to the same conclusion. EVERY woman he interacts with backs me up.


So I have no interest in enabling this kid. I have EVERY interest in being a voice that says-you need help. Go get it. Today.

Which part do you think I need help in? Quitting escorts or getting laid with non-escorts?


Also why dont you think i have respect for women? If i didn't have respect for women, Id probably be trying to get laid with drunk girls in clubs but I dont.

Originally Posted by GGnoRE

You say you got confidence, but if you can't get any girls into a sexual relationship, then you ain't got any confidence. Sorry.
Go on pick-up-artist forums and learn some basics to improve your game. I've seen countless number of guys like you (can't get girls, resort to prostitutes type) recieving help there.
Stop paying for escorts because thats cheating and your game will never improve, if not getting worse.


I go to UBC and I see nerds getting laid all the time. Why can't you?

Yeah that just makes it worse, i sometimes eaves drop close to ok looking guys that have pretty good looking GFs in irving and their discussions aren't entertaining or funny at all. Never see what they see in the guy.

Originally Posted by dhillon09

OP try not to always be the nice guy. Never EVER give a girl a compliment in a club, especially as the first thing you say. That only makes you look like 1) You're trying to get in her pants 2) you're drunk off your ass and just being a horny dog (Which brings us back to #1).


Learn to playfully make fun of girls, get to know them a bit, act interested in what they talk about, ask questions, then compliment/number exchange. Not many girls casually have sex with guys they meet randomly (unless intoxicated), life isn't a porno. You're not gonna be driving along highway 1 one day, when you see a 10/10 blond in a short skirt and high heels with a flat tire on her 2010 335i, and you being the chivalrist man you are, go and change her spare tire for her. And she doesn't have any means of paying you back so you end up in some pseudo barter based business relationship in which she has sex with you on the side of the road as a means of repayment for you fixing her flat tire. It doesn't work like that.




Anyways .. start going to the gym, start lifting some weights, get your testosterone and confidence up. If you still can't get anything out of it, at least the escorts won't cringe when your 130lb pale skinny fat body walks through the door.


Getting laid isn't the end all be all. I'm pretty sure you feel pretty cold + worse than you did before going to the escort. Learn to control your emotions and your mind. Have some discipline with yourself, become something, be a man .. maybe fall in love .. maybe fill that void and need for gratification you have with a relationship. Maybe spend the money you spend on escorts on a nice girl and taking her out to dinners ..


Be real with yourself. You need to meet a certain physical criteria to be one of those guys that gets with random chicks all the time. If you have a 5/10 face you can make up for it with a 8/10 body.

I havent fapped for around a month because i know it messes up your view of the real world. And i know i have a lot of work to do on my body. My genetics are pretty crap but I'm getting to my goal. I try to get about 3200 calories in per day to bulk up to around 210 lbs then I'll cut down to 170ish. My chest genetics are weird and i collect fat there really fast so I'm hoping to hit 210 fast so i can cut and get my abs back. Like i said, working out is my hobby and its not like I'm some 300 lb fat fuck trying to get laid by 10/10s.


heres my pic:

[Araaadi]

First thing first go get your self checked. You dont want to finally find a girl have her leave you because you gave her an infection or a disease.

[Glove]

the hell, you said you were brown?

the pic is of a white dude

[dinosaur]

Originally Posted by El Bastardo

Im not charming enough to get girls in bed.

Umm...wow. This is your problem. You really don't get it.

You didn't answer the major question though:

Do you want a girlfriend/relationship?
Do you just want a girl to fuck?

At this point, I think you just want a girl to fuck. You may as well go back to fucking hookers.

I think you have a problem. Kidding aside, I truly thinks you have a sexual addiction.

I DO NOT recommend you looking for a girl the date or to form a relationship with. You will destroy her.

You need to seek help. I am not trolling, joking, or making fun of you. Talk to you family doctor, talk to a counselor at school, phone the mental health line...do what ever you need to do. IMO, this is not normal, but you are not the only one who feels like this or has dealt with this.

[Gridlock]

I'll get you more later, but here's what I get out of your book long response:

fuck me.
fuck me.
fuck me?
fuck me please?
FUCK ME!
Need to get fucked.
Women.

In a word? desperate.

You need to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.

You lost me as soon as you said, "in 2 years I'll be wherever and there are no girls there"

Fuck man...how do you think us old farts in our 30's get laid after 22? The answer is not "escorts". If I can read your words and get nothing but desperation from it, what do you think the rest of the world can see? You need ass, right meow!

You have some serious problems, and getting laid is NOT going to solve them. You are trying to compensate for whatever deficiency you have with pussy. Even if you suddenly became a player, the same problem with yourself is going to be present. Why?

Because in 4 years, you are going to send EB a post that says, "I get all these women, but I can't make a relationship work!"

Be honest..the problem is you can't afford hookers anymore. You are addicted to ass, and now you can't pay for it. The common problem of addicts.

You wouldn't be here asking questions if you could afford to buy more ass. Now you are doing what an addict does best..how can I get my fix for free?

[Presto]

OP, if you're looking for a fuck, then clubs/bars aka the meat market, are going to give you the best chance. Wear your fitted shirt, show off your body, and just cut to the chase and start asking women if they're DTF. There's no need to charm the sluts. It'll be kind of like that King of the Hill episode where you discover that the secret of Boomhauer's success with women is to just keep asking until you get a positive response.

[El Bastardo]

Where does the core of this come from? What were your early interactions with women like?

You've mentioned being charming to a point, but not charming enough to seal the deal. What happens at that point. Do you just not proceed? Or do you find yourself somehow sabotaging your own efforts.

Also, and this is a serious question, have you ever tried getting these women to hang out with you socially, without the expectation of sex as an eventual reward? A platonic date?


It just seems to us that you want to skip to point C without hitting points A and B. Yeah, yeah, we know that you don't have much time in your life for it, but developing decent social skills now, while you can afford to make mistakes, prevent you from making those mistakes later on down the road when you meet someone who really matters to you.

Because you don't want to treat women as masturbatory aids forever, do you?

[BaoTurbo]

Your sex drive is through the roof. More than me lol. And your mindset is making it all wrong, you're letting your instincts take over.

[46_valentinor]

to the op, have you ever thought to yourself that what you think of yourself isn't exactly what other people thinks of you? you think you emit qualities such as confidence, humour, well dress/groomed, good fitness..etc etc, but is that what other people see in you that makes YOU? everyone is biased towards themselves, you have to put yourself in an unbiased perspective and critique yourself.

you see escorts. big deal. but is it because of them that your mindset towards other females, relationships is going down the drain?

i also don't think you should go into a relationship if all you think is that a relationship equals to sex. sex in a relationship can be just an added bonus, it shouldn't be the thing that actually drives the relationship. but again, i don't know you and how your previous relationship ACTUALLY went, so im not going to critique you regarding your previous relationship. i just hope you change your mindset if that is really what you think (relationship = sex) a relationship is to something more realistic.

[TheNewGirl]

I can talk to random strangers easily. I drive so cant meet girls on the bus but I talk to girls randomly in bookstore lineups, subway lineup, girls that sit next to me in class, everywhere. Even one of the girls I talked to in class, Im going to be studying with her next week for finals but i dont expect anything sexual to come out of it.

Girls in the real world are not like girls in porn, they don't take off their clothes the minute you walk in the door and say 'hey'. (On a side note I would highly suggest you stop watching porn as well as stop seeing escorts both are greatly skewing your expectations of women and how easily relationships are obtained).

Shit takes time, especially with girls you know in your day to day life. And you gotta get your head out of your ass and stop expecting it to be fucking easy and instead work on earning it. You gotta spend time talking to the girl your studying with and then maybe after the final ask her out for a cup of coffee and a movie. And you gotta spend time getting to know her and take her out to dinner a few times letting her get to know you and THEN maybe then you will get laid.

[El Bastardo]

The following is a reply from the anonymous member

Originally Posted by Glove

the hell, you said you were brown?


the pic is of a white dude

yeah, I'm not dark brown or anything... more mocha coloured and the lighting was strong too

Originally Posted by dinosaur

Umm...wow. This is your problem. You really don't get it.


You didn't answer the major question though:


Do you want a girlfriend/relationship?
Do you just want a girl to fuck?


At this point, I think you just want a girl to fuck. You may as well go back to fucking hookers.


I think you have a problem. Kidding aside, I truly thinks you have a sexual addiction.


I DO NOT recommend you looking for a girl the date or to form a relationship with. You will destroy her.


You need to seek help. I am not trolling, joking, or making fun of you. Talk to you family doctor, talk to a counselor at school, phone the mental health line...do what ever you need to do. IMO, this is not normal, but you are not the only one who feels like this or has dealt with this.

I'm happy with either. I always hear my friends talking about how many girls they banged over the weekend at some party and it gets pretty bad knowing your the only one in the group who is a "virgin".

Originally Posted by Gridlock

I'll get you more later, but here's what I get out of your book long response:


fuck me.
fuck me.
fuck me?
fuck me please?
FUCK ME!
Need to get fucked.
Women.


In a word? desperate.


You need to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.


You lost me as soon as you said, "in 2 years I'll be wherever and there are no girls there"


Fuck man...how do you think us old farts in our 30's get laid after 22? The answer is not "escorts". If I can read your words and get nothing but desperation from it, what do you think the rest of the world can see? You need ass, right meow!


You have some serious problems, and getting laid is NOT going to solve them. You are trying to compensate for whatever deficiency you have with pussy. Even if you suddenly became a player, the same problem with yourself is going to be present. Why?


Because in 4 years, you are going to send EB a post that says, "I get all these women, but I can't make a relationship work!"


Be honest..the problem is you can't afford hookers anymore. You are addicted to ass, and now you can't pay for it. The common problem of addicts.


You wouldn't be here asking questions if you could afford to buy more ass. Now you are doing what an addict does best..how can I get my fix for free?

Honestly, I think you guys are blowing this out of proportion. Im not addicted to sex, I can easily rub one out before school and everything is fine. I haven't seen escorts in months now, there was a point where I would see 2 or 3 per week. I decided to stop that shit and try to at least get a girl interested in me before I graduate. Im guessing your a female so you dont know how it feels. Its super easy to stop thinking about sex after you jack off and then your good for the whole day. I saw so many escorts because my mindset was that no girl would want to have sex with me and I didn't have many ways to meet girls because I stopped hanging out with friends and studied/worked more.

Originally Posted by Presto

OP, if you're looking for a fuck, then clubs/bars aka the meat market, are going to give you the best chance. Wear your fitted shirt, show off your body, and just cut to the chase and start asking women if they're DTF. There's no need to charm the sluts. It'll be kind of like that King of the Hill episode where you discover that the secret of Boomhauer's success with women is to just keep asking until you get a positive response.

Ive been to barcelona, republic, venue etc but I quickly realized the real world doesnt work like how it does in the movies/tv.

Originally Posted by El Bastardo

Where does the core of this come from? What were your early interactions with women like?


You've mentioned being charming to a point, but not charming enough to seal the deal. What happens at that point. Do you just not proceed? Or do you find yourself somehow sabotaging your own efforts.


Also, and this is a serious question, have you ever tried getting these women to hang out with you socially, without the expectation of sex as an eventual reward? A platonic date?




It just seems to us that you want to skip to point C without hitting points A and B. Yeah, yeah, we know that you don't have much time in your life for it, but developing decent social skills now, while you can afford to make mistakes, prevent you from making those mistakes later on down the road when you meet someone who really matters to you.


Because you don't want to treat women as masturbatory aids forever, do you?

Ive always lived with women which may be one of the problems. Ive lived with my 3 sisters and mother. I saw my father once a year for a short period of time. There pretty religious so we never talk about dating or sex or anything.


I used to go out with girls since grade 7 then it slowed down in grade 10 and i decided to bust my ass in school to make it into university. Then once I got in, I had one gf in first year and thats it. I can talk to girls but when it comes to sexual talk, I guess I kind of become shy or intimidated i dont know.


And i haven't gotten any girls to hang out with but its happened a couple times but it never leads anywhere. The most recent one was retarded, I asked her to hang out, we got in my car, leaving school, she says she forgot where the place is, called her guy friend, and i ended up picking him up as well and going to the restaurant. Shit was retarded. But then she invited me clubbing and stuff but i dont know wtf is up with her, she keeps going with like 5 other guys. So I'm not bothering with her.


Do you think I should just try to get as many girls to go on completely platonic dates with me? I usually dont bother asking girls out too much because 1) I stopped focusing on them and 2) There isn't many girls I "click" with and the date would probably be boring.

Originally Posted by 46_valentinor

to the op, have you ever thought to yourself that what you think of yourself isn't exactly what other people thinks of you? you think you emit qualities such as confidence, humour, well dress/groomed, good fitness..etc etc, but is that what other people see in you that makes YOU? everyone is biased towards themselves, you have to put yourself in an unbiased perspective and critique yourself.


you see escorts. big deal. but is it because of them that your mindset towards other females, relationships is going down the drain?


i also don't think you should go into a relationship if all you think is that a relationship equals to sex. sex in a relationship can be just an added bonus, it shouldn't be the thing that actually drives the relationship. but again, i don't know you and how your previous relationship ACTUALLY went, so im not going to critique you regarding your previous relationship. i just hope you change your mindset if that is really what you think (relationship = sex) a relationship is to something more realistic.

Yeah my mindset has been pretty pathetic. After my ex dumped me, I had the mindset that "no one really has sex, girls are just a big tease, only way to get laid is through escorts or if you have amazing game".


I know its not all about sex but I'm not even asking to just have a one night stand or anything. Being able to be anything more then friends with any woman seems like an impossible goal right now.


Thanks again for everyones responses, I feel a lot better. I've given myself 6 months to put myself out there and just make as many friends as i can and if that leads to something, then great, if not, well then its probably a sign to quit lol.