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Old 07-09-2012, 02:51 PM   #76
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Solar panels, then?

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My bad for bumping an old thread. So I just got a notice from BC Hydro that they'll be installing Smart Meters in the next couple of weeks. Our family doesn't want the Smart Meters installed.

Can we just call in and tell them no or what's the method in doing so?

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so why is it that your family do not want the smart meter installed?
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Yeah, that's like a cross to a vampire, it'll scare the livin' shit out of the installer and send him running screaming back to his momma.
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Yes, because BCHydro will indefinitely acknowledge notes and continue to send out a meter reader to your house because you're "special"

"special" like the kid who was a little slow in school..

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Yes, because BCHydro will indefinitely acknowledge notes and continue to send out a meter reader to your house because your "special"

"special" like the kid who was a little slow in school..
Helmet special. Short-bus special. Special in an Olympic way.

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Yes, because BCHydro will indefinitely acknowledge notes and continue to send out a meter reader to your house because you're "special"

"special" like the kid who was a little slow in school..
http://langleytoday.ca/?p=11605

We posted the suggested notices beside our current Hydro meter and will now await developments. When the BC Hydro installer arrives he or she will be met by the notices we posted and will, according to Hydro, not install a Smart Meter on our home.
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We posted the suggested notices beside our current Hydro meter and will now await developments. When the BC Hydro installer arrives he or she will be met by the notices we posted and will, according to Hydro, not install a Smart Meter on our home.
Yeah, read the next paragraph:

"The nice lady on the phone did explain that, despite our exercise of our rights, we would eventually be forced to allow the intrusion since Hydro has declared the installations mandatory."

I'm just waiting for Hydro to exercise their right to tell you "no smart meter, no power", since there's nothing that guarantees everyone the "right" to electricity delivery.
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anyone know if smart meters have any interference with the telephone box outside of our houses?
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Of course they don't. They're a fraction of the output power of a cell phone, cordless phone, or wifi router.
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Yeah, read the next paragraph:

"The nice lady on the phone did explain that, despite our exercise of our rights, we would eventually be forced to allow the intrusion since Hydro has declared the installations mandatory."

I'm just waiting for Hydro to exercise their right to tell you "no smart meter, no power", since there's nothing that guarantees everyone the "right" to electricity delivery.
eventually.

he asked i answered.

i would be surprised if it isn't dragged through the courts for years before you are forced.
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Lol it will be funny if BC hydro don't provide any power to anyone who refuse to get smart meter install. They can simply add some fine print.

The company I work for is changing to all digital cable service last fee months, ppl with no digital receivers can only get basic cable. We have ppl complain and threaten to sue us lol. I am sorry but we are the providers we do what we want.
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Our family doesn't want the Smart Meters installed.


Electricity is not a right, it is a service.

I guess your family could install stationary bikes all over the house, pedal hard and generate your own power when you want to run the dishwasher, watch tv or keep the refrigerator cold. It would be a great workout!! But you would probably have to take shifts to make sure the food stays cold.
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The company I work for is changing to all digital cable service last fee months, ppl with no digital receivers can only get basic cable. We have ppl complain and threaten to sue us lol. I am sorry but we are the providers we do what we want.
That's a terrible example.

At least a cable company pisses me off, I can cancel their service and choose a different provider. Or I can cancel cable altogether, and it won't largely affect my life.

In all but one area of BC, your only choice for electricity is BC Hydro. As much as people say that electricity is a "privilege", it's pretty difficult to live normally today without it.
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In all but one area of BC, your only choice for electricity is BC Hydro.
No it's not. There are lots of options out there for generating your own electricity. Hydro is the only choice to have it *delivered*.

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And yet, if you think it's a "right"... just try not paying your bill. See if any court in the land will back you up if you try to sue for getting cut off after a couple months.
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No it's not. There are lots of options out there for generating your own electricity. Hydro is the only choice to have it *delivered*.
I figured you would be smart enough to infer that I meant the only PRACTICAL choice, but I guess I was wrong in making that assumption. Furthermore, those options don't exist for the hundreds of thousands of people who live in apartments, condos, townhomes.

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Get your head out of your ass. Did I say that power was a "Right"? I said that unlike cable, living without power is pretty fucking difficult this day and age. Who the fuck said anything about not paying your bill? That's a different issue altogether.

Do you hump smart meters at night or something?

For the record, I am FOR smart meters.
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That's a terrible example.

At least a cable company pisses me off, I can cancel their service and choose a different provider. Or I can cancel cable altogether, and it won't largely affect my life.

In all but one area of BC, your only choice for electricity is BC Hydro. As much as people say that electricity is a "privilege", it's pretty difficult to live normally today without it.
You can generate your own electricity and be self sufficient.
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I figured you would be smart enough to infer that I meant the only PRACTICAL choice, but I guess I was wrong in making that assumption.
People have different concepts of practicality.

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There are options available to EVERYONE. Just a question of how much effort you want to put into it. Tell you one thing, if everyone had to pedal a bike to power their TV, it would give a whole new appreciation for "Power Smart".

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I did. In case you missed it, the point was to outline for those who don't get it (which, BTW, I didn't say was you specifically) that they don't have a "right" to electric delivery.


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That's a terrible example.

At least a cable company pisses me off, I can cancel their service and choose a different provider. Or I can cancel cable altogether, and it won't largely affect my life.

In all but one area of BC, your only choice for electricity is BC Hydro. As much as people say that electricity is a "privilege", it's pretty difficult to live normally today without it.
They are providing u a service, if ppl don't like it then don't use it. Sure is hard to live by but u can if u try hard enough. U can install sun panels on your roof, buy generators to power your house.......

There is always a choice.
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There is always a choice.
You're assuming everyone lives in a house. That doesn't work for apartment/condo dwellers.
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And if you live in an apartment or a condo you have a choice if you want smart meters or not?
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And if you live in an apartment or a condo you have a choice if you want smart meters or not?
Yeah, the guy whose unit is right next to the electrical room is gonna melt down and mutate from the radiation... everyone else in the building is safe!
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We had the smart meters installed a few months ago in our condo. Our bills have stayed consistent over last year. Don't even notice the difference obviously
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If you don't want a smart meter, just whip out your gun when the dude comes to install it. Like this lady:

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Thelma Taormina didn’t want a new electric meter, and she went to great lengths to keep her old one.

When a worker showed up at her northwest Harris County home to install a smart meter, she grabbed her gun.

"He just kept pushing me away," the 55-year-old Taormina, who is licensed to carry a weapon, said. "He saw it, and went back the other way."

CenterPoint Energy has nearly completed installing more than 2 million smart meters in the Harris County area.

But Taormina says she shouldn’t be forced to get one.

The smart meters digitally count kilowatts and wirelessly transmit information.

"Our constitution allows us not to have that kind of intrusion on our personal privacy," she said. "They’ll be able to tell if you are running your computer, air conditioner, whatever it is."

"I am very upset with it," her husband said.

The Public Utilities Commission is now considering allowing homeowners to have the smart meters removed.

Meanwhile, the Taorminas have formed a group called "We the People," which is asking for hearings that could change when and where smart meters are placed.

For now, the Taorminas get to keep their old meter. But that might not last – despite the warning signs they’ve posted at their home.

"We are deeply troubled by anyone who would pull a gun on another person performing their job," a CenterPoint spokesperson said. "CenterPoint will be taking additional steps – including court actions – because what happened is dangerous, illegal and unwarranted."

The Taorminas and the group "We the People" plan to continue asking the PUC to not force people to use the new meters.
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