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The WiFi 'problem' has been around for at least a couple of years, first surfacing at schools I believe. Once again we don't know for a fact that its a problem and not a 'problem', but we know so little about the actual long term effects of these sorts of things because technology changes and advances so quickly, we can only speculate and make pretty good guesses based on what we currently know |
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-asbestos -thalidomide -DDT -Agent Orange -radiation On that front, although we're mocking this guy, and those people, I have to hand it to him that he came out on this issue..here, in a less than accepting website for these types of things and actually talking about it. Each of the above items had people that noticed issues, then more issues and finally general acceptance after a lot of damage was done. Do I need to know more? Oh hell yes. I'd like to see some proof. Not some hokey youtube vids, but honest to goodness proof. As I said before, you need to basically show that transmissions exist, or background EM fields exist or 'something' exists and that 'something' is different from whatever else exists in the house. |
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How is it that something can exist and be in common use for years without causing problems for some people, yet start causing problems instantly when a single new piece of equipment is installed? This is not something like DDT where the (alleged) effects should be cumulative, or take a while to discover. |
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I'm not saying that there is a causation here, just that we don't know enough to say for sure that there isn't and its 100% placebo--the examples Gridlock gave illustrate this well. |
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Whoop! There it is. Class action lawsuit launched against BC Hydro over Smart Metres | Globalnews.ca Class action lawsuit. PS: The spelling mistake in the fucking title of the article is a freebie from Global. |
So dumb, no different then filing a class action against McDonalds for discontinuing Pizza. If I don't like what there selling I'm free to go elsewhere, it's not like there isn't alternate energy sources out there? What? They cost more, to fucking bad. I'd be shocked if anything comes from it, mind you I never thought there was a snowballs chance that the HST would get repealed so anything is possible. |
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Would you guys like to take an RS challenge and let us beam a few music videos through your body, namely through the "pelvic area"? Maybe if you have infant siblings or cousins... through their skull... that would make it more exciting. http://meeither02.files.wordpress.co...if?w=450&h=336 |
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Sure, you'll win this thread... heres the challenge. A team will need to peer to peer network, two laptops using cantenna's (an antenna that focuses the radiation band)... on your end you'll have a hacked router with its wifi illegally boosted to beam across the water... the antenna will be placed through your body and will get picked up on the other side streaming videos. http://i.imgur.com/ZPrzsmz.jpg |
So your experiment to prove that normal household wifi is dangerous is to use something that is completely different from household wifi? |
The smart meter sending radiation in that video, in which the houses look more isolated and far away from any kind of base station, is sending radiation a far distance I would guess. How is it that lots of wifi radiation is worse then a little? edit I wish the original of this video was still around... this guy sets up hotspots in busy locations using strong antennas... what is cut out from this version is where the news anchor is joking with the hotspot guy about standing in front of an antenna, in which the business man jokingly refuses citing health fears... even though hes radiating an unsuspecting population himself. Radiation from WIFI San Francisco _www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XAZtazxxZw |
So in other words, in order to prove that a pellet gun is dangerous, you want to shoot me with a bazooka. :pokerface: :okay: |
To be fair, wifi is non ionizing radiation, so I'd still be up for the experiment. Mostly because the power will decrease significantly as the distance increases (wifi works on frequencies that are inefficient over a distance). For those of you who believe that this kind of test is of a concern, remember that your phone when connecting wirelessly will send signals often as much as up to a kilometre away or more. Now, don't get me wrong, it's entirely possible that there is a group of people who have somehow evolved an EM sensitivity. There is as yet, however, no proof of such. I would very much like to see research on those people who claim sensitivity to see if there is some way to either suppress or promote this sense, as it may be either advantageous or disadvantageous in the future. |
edit You would stand infront of the antenna at the router base sending the radiation? @Soundy Some people will be sitting and sleeping at home most of the time where the smart meter will constantly be beaming into them. Would you like to carry a smart meter radiator equivalent in your pocket for 10 years to see if you develop any tumors in that area? I dont think you'd be dedicated to do such a bet. Do you believe in a special set of scientists that say lots of wifi is bad as to suppose to little or is your dad like a cell biologist of sorts that knows these things? http://www.earthcalm.ca/index_files/...m#.UfRTcqzNrRY Quote:
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Fortunately, I have a better-than-base understanding of how electrical current, radio waves, electronics, and these particular technologies actually work, which means I don't have to rely entirely on anyone else to tell me the "truth"... unlike you, who will blindly accept the word of random unknown people on the internet, who couldn't possibly have agendas of their own... right? Edit: example: the picture with the Pringles cans - there's nothing scary about this. The router is outputting the same signal as always, it's just being focused... and the receiving device is using a directional antenna in the same way. This doesn't boost the energy, it only directs it - it's no more harmful than if you wrapped your hand around a regular antenna. It's not going to set anyone's skin on fire or bore holes through the body. As for "radiation coming off the meter shown in the recent video" - what recent video? The only one I see on this page is the one about the guy beaming his own WiFi into Starbucks... which has nothing to do with the operation of smart meters. As for your "earthcalm" link, that's talking about ELECTRICITY... like sticking your tongue in a light socket or getting hit by lightning. It's not the same thing as electromagnetic fields. Links like yours love to bold the term "RADIATION" to make it sound all scary, because everyone knows "RADIATION" is a bad and dangerous thing, right? Well guess what? LIGHT is a form of electromagnetic radiation too. So you'd better just spend the rest of your life living in the dark... which is where you seem to like it anyway. |
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edit Found this comment in that news article. You are terribly misinformed. Yes toxins (note: no apostrophe) from smart meters. It's called microwave radiation. Look it up. It's toxic at almost all exposure levels. In fact it can be more toxic at lower levels, and is certainly more toxic when modulated with a signal. This has been known since military tests in the 60s. There are thousands of peer-reviewed studies showing harm from microwave radiation at levels below current "safety" standards. Go to pub med and insert search terms such as "microwave, low-level, chronic" and learn. Instead of remaining in your state of ignorance, why don't you educate yourself and maybe you'll realize that if we don't all stand together against oppression, we'll all fall. |
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If we raise $200, would you let us beam the whole Titanic movie through your brain and across the river? at 720p resolution. :D This is like Darwins laws of nature... people that want to play with fire and go against biological science and evolution should suffer the consequences by eliminating themselves from the human population or by handicapping their offspring. |
I could really use a map to follow along on all the leaps in logic of this conversation. Like, what the bloody hell does the movie Titanic have to do with smart meters? Have you...had movies beamed through your head? Or alien anal probes maybe? Oh come on, we were all thinking it! |
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