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05-29-2012, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by !MiKrofT  The videocard doesn't always pull 200W. That's only on full load which most of the time it isn't. | Yeah, but you still have to put into account when the video card IS on full load. If a computer pulls 450w at full load, you're not going to get a 400w and think "most of the time it won't be a 450w, so i'll just go with a little lower".
You should always have a good amount of headroom. As I said before, if you get close to the max wattage of your power supply, the fan will ramp up louder. And then you have capacitor aging, where the capacitors on your PSU degrades over time and the effective wattage of your power supply lowers.
Most power supplies usually have the best efficiency at around 50% load. Shorn's computer will probably idle at around 200~. It would be annoying if the PSU fan ramped up every time he opened something.
And if he ever decides to get a new video card that might use a little more power, he doesn't need to worry or wonder if his psu can handle it.
Don't get me wrong, you're probably fine with the 400w, but I would prefer a 500w to be worry free about upgrading and to avoid a loud fan. Quote:
Originally Posted by Shorn not sure if i should trust jesus or not 
but even if it is enough i probably will get the 500w then.. i'd prefer it to be more quiet most of the time | Hope that's enough to convince you? You don't have to trust me... after all, it's just advice!  You probably don't trust a guy with a 4 post count. I understand... :'(
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05-29-2012, 12:32 AM
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#52 | | Ready to be Man handled by RS!
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I think NCIX will flash the firmware for free for you also. But a refurb motherboard doesn't have to come back with the latest BIOS update. What if it's an a refurb that's been sitting there for a while, and a new BIOS is released? But yeah, give them a call or borrow from a friend.
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05-29-2012, 12:43 AM
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#53 | | I *Fwap* *Fwap* *Fwap* to RS
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Originally Posted by Shorn not sure if i should trust jesus or not
but even if it is enough i probably will get the 500w then.. i'd prefer it to be more quiet most of the time | Like Jesus said, for your rig I would get at least 500w+. Aside from the noise factor, I would probably get 5-600w+ so that the PSU would be future proof when you upgrade parts later on.
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05-29-2012, 02:16 AM
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#54 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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That's somewhat ironic, since an upgrade would bring down his power consumption considerably  | |
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05-29-2012, 04:32 AM
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#55 | | Resident Bullshitter
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Gonna build 4 of these for my china home to play Diablo with my frds
not even gonna bother with a DVD drive... all new games are network downloaded anyways...
Core i5 3550
Micro ATX Z77 board
8GB Ram
Any 560GTX
Any branded PSU @500w
Any good looking MATX case
Intel 120GB SSD
Dell 23" Ultrasharp IPS LCD
Around $7300 HKD
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05-29-2012, 10:11 AM
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#56 | | Got MOD?
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Originally Posted by dryjesus Yeah, but you still have to put into account when the video card IS on full load. If a computer pulls 450w at full load, you're not going to get a 400w and think "most of the time it won't be a 450w, so i'll just go with a little lower".
You should always have a good amount of headroom. As I said before, if you get close to the max wattage of your power supply, the fan will ramp up louder. And then you have capacitor aging, where the capacitors on your PSU degrades over time and the effective wattage of your power supply lowers.
Most power supplies usually have the best efficiency at around 50% load. Shorn's computer will probably idle at around 200~. It would be annoying if the PSU fan ramped up every time he opened something.
And if he ever decides to get a new video card that might use a little more power, he doesn't need to worry or wonder if his psu can handle it.
Don't get me wrong, you're probably fine with the 400w, but I would prefer a 500w to be worry free about upgrading and to avoid a loud fan.
Hope that's enough to convince you? You don't have to trust me... after all, it's just advice! You probably don't trust a guy with a 4 post count. I understand... :'( | I think it'll idle lower than 200. But anways I think the first issue to resolve first is the non booting first and then upgrade the powersupply.
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05-29-2012, 10:23 AM
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#57 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Originally Posted by NCIX HI J---------,
Yes this would have had the latest BIOS from when we had received this from the manufacturer. At this time If you wish to have it brought into an NCIX store to update the BIOS the techs may charge you for this as we do not guarantee any BIOS revisions. I apologize for any inconveniences this may have caused. If you have any further questions or concerns please let me know. | FFFFFFFFFFF, i'll check @ aberdeen later and hopefully I don't get charged
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05-29-2012, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp That's somewhat ironic, since an upgrade would bring down his power consumption considerably | You're right, but it depends on the card really.
Most likely the computer isn't booting up right now because the board doesn't support ivy without the newest bios. Or the board is plain broken.
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05-29-2012, 10:59 AM
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#59 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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thank you jesus
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05-29-2012, 01:08 PM
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#60 | | Got MOD?
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Originally Posted by jc95 FFFFFFFFFFF, i'll check @ aberdeen later and hopefully I don't get charged | They shouldn't need to charge. I mean it's such a simple procedure and if you explain your situation I'm sure they'll end up doing it for free.
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05-30-2012, 06:39 PM
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#61 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Woo got it all set up and done
The guy at ncix fixed it for me no charge and he forgot 4gb of ram on my motherboard
Ill drop it off to them on saturday
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05-30-2012, 06:41 PM
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#62 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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Originally Posted by jc95 FFFFFFFFFFF, i'll check @ aberdeen later and hopefully I don't get charged | lol that was me  | |
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05-30-2012, 06:44 PM
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#63 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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Originally Posted by dryjesus Yeah, but you still have to put into account when the video card IS on full load. If a computer pulls 450w at full load, you're not going to get a 400w and think "most of the time it won't be a 450w, so i'll just go with a little lower".
You should always have a good amount of headroom. As I said before, if you get close to the max wattage of your power supply, the fan will ramp up louder. And then you have capacitor aging, where the capacitors on your PSU degrades over time and the effective wattage of your power supply lowers.
Most power supplies usually have the best efficiency at around 50% load. Shorn's computer will probably idle at around 200~. It would be annoying if the PSU fan ramped up every time he opened something.
And if he ever decides to get a new video card that might use a little more power, he doesn't need to worry or wonder if his psu can handle it.
Don't get me wrong, you're probably fine with the 400w, but I would prefer a 500w to be worry free about upgrading and to avoid a loud fan.
Hope that's enough to convince you? You don't have to trust me... after all, it's just advice! You probably don't trust a guy with a 4 post count. I understand... :'( | Capacitor decay is very limited now, as 99.99999999% of the named power supplies are all solid japanesaru caps, however, decay happens immediately once they are ran outside their specified loads (450W on a 420W), this will cause immediate damage to the power supply.
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05-30-2012, 09:40 PM
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#64 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Originally Posted by belaud lol that was me | really? i got your ram | |
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