Massey Tunnel set for replacement
 

So looks like Christy Crunch wants to waste as much of our money as she can before she's out the door

Wonder how much this will be tolled

tax dollars to build
taxed to drive

Province to replace the Massey Tunnel - News1130

sheesh...and no one bothers with that retarded-ass light at 72nd ave and hwy 91... W T F ...

The tunnel is 53 years old and counterflow lane isn't that safe; I rather they built a new one then keep fixing it.

By the time the new tunnel/bridge opens, its gonna be 65+? and with Richmond soil :heckno::fuckthatshit:

A new interchange at steveston and 99 would be a godsend too...

thats true

i just cant stand christy so im dissing everything she does ;)

^ it's okay, I'm waiting for a highspeed west coast express that would catch on fire when the NDP is in power :troll:

It has to be done and you know it's going to be tolled as well!!

I don't see a problem with replacing the Messy Tunnel at all. As it is, the tunnel is a major traffic bottleneck, sometimes even during non-rush hours. Whenever I come back from Tsawwassen, I also dread the repeated on-ramps / merging that they have there. Traffic volume has clearly outgrown that design.

If possible, I would also support the addition of a new bridge from Main (in Vancouver) connecting directly to Shell Road (in Richmond). The population of Vancouver, Richmond, and GVRD in general has increased significantly over the past 20+ years, but we are still stuck with the same 3 bridges that is incapable of carrying any additional volume. Then again, I seem to remember Vancouver having some sort of legislation that prevents the addition of new vehicle bridges.

Come on, it's going to be fucking tolled. Same as the Patullo when they replace that.

I feel pretty bad for all of you on the south side of the fraser.

rrrraagggeeee... I spend half my commute home every day waiting for that stupid light, why couldn't they have just put an overpass in to skip over the traffic!!!! What's the point of a highway if you have a damn light in the middle of it!

Why?

For the average commuter, the fuel savings place toll fees almost at par and the significant time savings are an added benefit. For businesses that require employees to travel the major routes on company time, the time savings add up to significant labour cost reduction. I say bring on the tolls, it makes complete sense to me.

I just was saying this to my dad a few days ago when I headed out to Surrey, like seriously, a red light on a bloody highway???

City of Delta mayor is being a prick by not approving of a change to that light. They like how the traffic is restricted into Delta.

No shit...its useless..people can exit nordel or 64th..the alex fraser is 6 lanes wide.i dont understand why there is still traffic
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I've never had a problem with the tunnel any time outside of rush hour. It doesn't get near the volume of HWY 1, the benefits and time/fuel saved would never come close.

the problem isnt money, they had the money and they were going to do it years ago. The problem is the city of delta is a bunch of goddamn assholes who like wasting countless hours of my life.

the only way to make something happen is to bitch about it

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Delta wants federal cash for highways - News1130

Am I the only one that thinks that tolling is ridiculous? They use our tax money to build it and now we gotta pay to use it. :fulloffuck:

The Mayor of Delta (Lois Jackson) is the biggest fucking idiot. I grew up in North Delta and fell victim to the goddamn 'traffic calming' measures she has taken.

She has been in power since 1999 and her number one interest is South Delta, Ladner, and Tsawwassen. She never appears to have a clue what she is doing, is a terrible speaker, and comes across as poorly educated. As Surrey, more specifically Scott Road, has expanded and grown, she has made a point of keeping the Delta side back and inefficient to commuters, citizens, and businesses.

I remember quite a few years ago she dropped over 50k to have her office ripped apart because she thought it was 'bugged' with listening devices. Turns out she had forgotten about conversations she had with people....I wish I could find that news article.

She is an absolute fucking nitwit!

^^ you don't have to use it =D

The objective is to use less government cash and use more private loans to build it. The tolls are used to pay off the private loans and when that is done, the infrastructure becomes fully owned by the government and then they "should" be removing the tolls (a la Coquihalla Highway).

I personally use that tunnel maybe twice a year, so why should I be paying the same amount as someone that uses it daily?

issues i have with tolling is that the money never goes to the right place....you think it'll be used for infrastructure or health? or do you think it will be used for executive pay raise?

Vancouver is pretty much the only city I see don't toll drivers, paying extra few dollars is fine as long as it really relieves the traffic congestion and have better roads.

Next, please build a skytrain, so it goes from no.3 road to new west / Surrey. Vancouver needs more public transit than more new roads.

After taking a class in Municipal Finance at school I have less of an issue about tolls as a means for paying parts of large capital projects. Public Private Partnerships and user fees are the way to go which is what they did with Port Mann.

Gotta get that money for infrastructure from somewhere! Plus, if you don't use the tunnel or Port Mann, etc. then you don't have to pay for it as much from your taxes.

I used the tunnel for 4 years straight every day and it sooooo needs to be replaced in the next decade. Accidents everyday, massive congestion, the time has come.

The Gateway design always had a bottleneck at the tunnel. You can't move all the traffic around everywhere else more efficiently and then have a big area where it sits. That was publicly announced way back.

As soon as the Goldenears opened with tolls, you knew that Port Mann and Patullo would be next. You can't have a free bridge sitting next to a pay bridge. That's why no one is currently using the Goldenears and we the taxpayers are having to subsidize the private partners. So you bring Port Mann online...and kill New West with traffic. They may mitigate that by having an introductory rate, but New West is already slammed with afternoon traffic. They want to replace the patullo with a 6 lane bridge, which turns NW into a major highway with a city around it, which I vehemently oppose. That 6 lane bridge also has that little added advantage of being the magic number of lanes that are required to have tolls in BC. So the answer to the Goldenears/Port Mann issue is to toll the Patullo as well..which will push the problem to the Alex Fraser.

I would much rather them rip the goddamned Patullo out, rather than have a 6 lane highway through my town.

Dafuq? Why in the fuck does this need to be done...

people can get outta bc faster, perhaps