that is correct.

S and SV models come with 6 speed manuals.

SR pkg only comes with automatic........ although alot of enthusiasts wont really buy an SR.. it only looks nice.

there is a confirmed SE-R in the works.... totally looking forward to that.

I would think enthusiasts will consider the SR package because it adds the rear disc brakes. But regardless, it's too bad you can't any package (like the Luxury or Premium package) without CVT. Nissan is basically saying sorry if you want a sunroof, leather navi or Bose system, you can't have the six speed.

SR premium pkg is a nice car.. although no 6 speed.

enthusiasts would really have to wait for the SE-R


on another note, four door 9 gen Si...... are torquey. k24 motor is more driveable than the k20z3... a shame they neutered the motor with that integrated exhaust manifold design..

But apparently, the K24 in the 2012 Civics are kind of problematic in that the pistons and rings are common points of failure, even when the engines are extremely new.

Really makes you wonder where the heck the legendary reliability Honda was once known for has gone...

^ haven't heard of that before, any articles/threads on it? No 12 si's have yet to come to my dealer for any outstanding issues like that.
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^ havent heard of that either.



the k24 is simply a tsx bottom end with a new engine head design...

im guessing its one of those internet things where a guy was revving the living piss out of a non broken in motor, then told the whole world the k24 is crap..

See post #11, #13, and a few others. I think the symptoms are oil consumption, and Honda seems to have a TSB issued for it as well.

2013 HONDA CIVIC - Honda-Tech

Elantra is actually surprisingly fun IMO. The tiptronic isn't half bad and the engine is rev happy .. Definitely one of the nicer compact cars I've driven at work. Interior looks good even after a few months of service.

Corolla is boring as hell to drive and the interior looks like shit after only ~15,000kms. Everything in it screams economy from the radio, to the shifter, to the steering wheel.

Altima CVT :heckno: Not a fan of the drive mechanism but interior holds up to regular wear and tear fairly well

Ford Focus Titanium - self parking, very refined interior, nice good quality touch screen, really nice sound system, bluetooth audio streaming w/ ford sync. We have a few of these with more than 20-30k and the interior still looks pristine

Only car I haven't actually driven is the new civic .. would be fun to see how it compares

^ dont bother with the civic if you have driven then focus :heckno:

so much better inside... on a DOMESTIC!

even the dodge dart looks nicer inside..

Damn. I honestly would buy a new Altima sedan 3.5 6MT if that existed. I will never buy a CVT. Ever. Nissan has really left the sport sedan w/ a 6MT out in the rain this time... Maxima's are all CVT's now, Aren't they?

nissan no longer offers a V6 6MT sedan...


funny thing is the Accord base, sport and touring models have the 6 MT option w/ 4 banger option..

That is depressing. Nissan's VQ series is one of my favorite motors, But i want a manual. They have really cut off alot of people with not offering atleast a 5/6 speed auto. Anyone who used to buy Nissan's for their practicality and still enjoyed a sporty car will be looking elsewhere...

Honda switched to cvt with their accord.. a matter of time that the civic does too!

oh shit!

http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/20...d-1024x640.jpg

and shit!

http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/20...d-1024x640.jpg

The 2013 looks immeasurably better. Now, I DIDN'T say good, I said much better.