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Old 01-28-2013, 08:05 AM   #51
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You're free to do as you'd like. You're afforded a certain amount of liberty unless you fit a certain profile which only applies to a very specific group of people looking to harm society as a whole.

Pretty much.


I want the government to be aware of all of the fucking insane people out there who want to harm other people. There are so many miserable, hateful, angry people who are just waiting for the right moment where they can start shooting people. Read some comments from all the chicken hawks on the Infowars/LiveLeak comment streams, for example.

Not to mention all of the religious hatred of western values openly preached in Europe.

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Alleged terrorism plot targeted Canada - Ottawa - CBC News
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:28 PM   #52
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There's two ways to see this.

"them" vs "us".

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this is just a step towards collectivity (it will happen regardless of whether you like it or not).

Humanity will become closer and closer, until we operate like a single unit. single mind. we are but cells in a body. for the body to operate at maximum efficiency, all the cells must have the same goal. to have the same goal, we must all think similarly and have access to the same information, and use that information, the same way.

as this technology gets cheaper, and declassified, more and more "public" versions of these will appear. and the information will be available to all.

everybody, will know everything, about everyone.


if you want to hide, then you're going to have to live with the penguins up north.

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They are just showing us its capabilities. Obviously it is not possible for them to keep a bird or 10 in the sky 24/7 to monitor BORING people below. There isnt enough affordable storage space and processing power to handle that YET.

However when such event might cause the need for it i'm sure enough storage space and processing power will be allocated for its operational time frame.
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this is just a step towards collectivity (it will happen regardless of whether you like it or not).

Humanity will become closer and closer, until we operate like a single unit. single mind. we are but cells in a body. for the body to operate at maximum efficiency, all the cells must have the same goal. to have the same goal, we must all think similarly and have access to the same information, and use that information, the same way.
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I've got a question to those of you concerned about privacy: Why should I care if the government decides to keep tabs on me? Apart from the occasional torrent and the odd speeding ticket every three or four years, my life is pretty damn boring and uneventful. How does my life become impacted by this?
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I've got a question to those of you concerned about privacy: Why should I care if the government decides to keep tabs on me? Apart from the occasional torrent and the odd speeding ticket every three or four years, my life is pretty damn boring and uneventful. How does my life become impacted by this?
I agree with you Lomac, but then you have others that say "if you let the government do X now, then what if they do Y in the future?"

Some people just like to complain about things they have very little control over...
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I've got a question to those of you concerned about privacy: Why should I care if the government decides to keep tabs on me? Apart from the occasional torrent and the odd speeding ticket every three or four years, my life is pretty damn boring and uneventful. How does my life become impacted by this?
I don't think people are scared of it impacting their lives, I think they are scared that the government is just going to keep pushing the boundary in terms of these kinds of operations.

It's all a game of how much power a government has, should have, and wants to have.


Personally, I don't care what they fly over me, but I do think it's a waste of money. As long as they haven't installed cameras in my home to watch me, I don't care. The only way I will care, is if I am falsely flagged for something that their super duper computer programs thought was malicious.
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I've got a question to those of you concerned about privacy: Why should I care if the government decides to keep tabs on me? Apart from the occasional torrent and the odd speeding ticket every three or four years, my life is pretty damn boring and uneventful. How does my life become impacted by this?
you could say the same thing about warrant-less phone taps and house search i guess? no matter how boring your life is everybody should have an interest in their privacy. if the next time you get pulled over and the cop says 'let me search your car inside out' with no probable cause, you don't think you'd be outraged?

and besides from that, there's the thought of 'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' or 'who guards the guards?' in latin. if the government can keep tabs on everybody, who keeps tabs on them? absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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and besides from that, there's the thought of 'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' or 'who guards the guards?' in latin. if the government can keep tabs on everybody, who keeps tabs on them? absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Everything is so much more menacing when you say it in Latin.
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They are just showing us its capabilities. Obviously it is not possible for them to keep a bird or 10 in the sky 24/7 to monitor BORING people below. There isnt enough affordable storage space and processing power to handle that YET.

However when such event might cause the need for it i'm sure enough storage space and processing power will be allocated for its operational time frame.
are you referring to the storage space in terms of like facilities to store birds on the ground? or space in terms of HD space for video footage?

cuz around 4:28 mark, she did say that they do have the ability to archive every video coming off every single UAV at the moment.
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