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Old 02-06-2013, 10:34 AM   #101
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For me, its simple.

I tip for good service and don't for bad service. I also don't limit my tipping to the food industry.

-I tip the dude that removes junk
-I tip the lady that does my laundry
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What pisses me off is that people in the restaurant industry EXPECT tips...other service-based industries don't.

If you do a good job or go above what is typical....here is a little bonus. If you don't, why should I reward mediocrity?

Last week Gridlock and I went out to a new Mexican food restaurant. Place was dead yet the service was horrendous! took well over 30 mins to get Gridlock's food....mine wasn't brought until 10 mins later....and, we ordered the simplest meals: tacos. I sat and watched our waitress sit at the bar and play on her iPhone and re-do her hair and make-up in the mirror.

We didn't leave a tip. Simple as that.
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For me, its simple.

I tip for good service and don't for bad service. I also don't limit my tipping to the food industry.

-I tip the dude that removes junk
-I tip the lady that does my laundry
-I tip the people that clean the carpets
-I tip the plumber
-I tip the kid who washes my truck
-I tip the hairdresser, nail technician, and the people at the spa I go to.

What pisses me off is that people in the restaurant industry EXPECT tips...other service-based industries don't.

If you do a good job or go above what is typical....here is a little bonus. If you don't, why should I reward mediocrity?

Last week Gridlock and I went out to a new Mexican food restaurant. Place was dead yet the service was horrendous! took well over 30 mins to get Gridlock's food....mine wasn't brought until 10 mins later....and, we ordered the simplest meals: tacos. I sat and watched our waitress sit at the bar and play on her iPhone and re-do her hair and make-up in the mirror.

We didn't leave a tip. Simple as that.
This is ridiculous and completely unacceptable.


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Last week Gridlock and I went out to a new Mexican food restaurant. Place was dead yet the service was horrendous! took well over 30 mins to get Gridlock's food....mine wasn't brought until 10 mins later....and, we ordered the simplest meals: tacos. I sat and watched our waitress sit at the bar and play on her iPhone and re-do her hair and make-up in the mirror.

We didn't leave a tip. Simple as that.
This restaurant didn't happen to be in New West did it?
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This restaurant didn't happen to be in New West did it?
Yes. Its a new one on 6th street. The food was great! They have 2$ tacos that are absolutely stellar, but the service was beyond horrible.

I will eat there again, but will only do take-out.
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A little late to the party with this post, but oh well.

I used to think tipping was kinda silly. After all, why tip someone for doing a job they're already doing? If they did an exceptional job, then I had no problem with forking over a few extra dollars, but otherwise I was rather uncaring about whether I tipped. However, I got to thinking about it this way: How many of you get bonus's at your jobs? If we (collectively we) finish a job early, or meet a sales quota, or pull in x-amount of customers, we're often given said bonus for doing so. The way I see it is that servers receiving tips are basically getting a bonus for doing a job well done. If they do a piss poor job, they don't get a tip (bonus). But the better they do, the better a tip they receive. Most jobs offer this incentive, so I don't really see a problem with following it as a customer at a restaurant.

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And did you work a little harder, do a little extra, in hopes of getting a better tip? Because that's how it works in most of the rest of the working world: when you do a better job, you make more money (raises, promotions, bonuses, etc.). Do a shitty, half-assed job, and if you're lucky, you get stuck at your pay grade.. if not, you get "downsized".
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Anyhow, I am all for higher food prices and no tips. In fact I would welcome it with open arms if it were ever introduced.
You know, I'm good with the concept that tips are not to be EXPECTED... as long as I'm still allowed to tip if I think the service is worth it. To extend this though, I'd love if I could be sure that when I tip *MY SERVER*, that it's not getting automatically pooled and split with everyone else.

I've been tipped in industries that don't typically get tips - when I worked at A&B Sound, my coworker and I did a major complex alarm install in one guy's car - he brought us a case of beer. Did some side IT work for a guy once, got tipped a 26er of Crown Royal (blech, horrid stuff, but it's the thought that counts).

I have no problem giving something a little extra to someone who's provided me excellent service. It's when it becomes expected and even "forced" on me that it becomes a problem.
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Went to a sushi place with my gf last week. Places wans't too pack and service was excellent. Everytime we finish our tea, the watier would come and fill our tea cups. The nice thing is she ask frist before just filling them.

Meal only comes to about $15 but we tip her $4 just for good service.
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Commonly get tipped with beer at work. Occasionally, the odd customer will tip anywhere from a few bucks for "coffee" to $15-20 for "lunch or beer".

Don't expect it, don't need it, and whenever I get tipped, I just give it to my boss to put towards beer or lunch for everyone. Or I just give it to the apprentices.

I don't work with the expectation that "better" work gets me a tip. I work with the expectation that I do the job well and the person will be a repeat customer, or that they'll tell their friends how well they were treated and how great the service was. To me, that's more invaluable.
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Went to a sushi place with my gf last week. Places wans't too pack and service was excellent. Everytime we finish our tea, the watier would come and fill our tea cups. The nice thing is she ask frist before just filling them.

Meal only comes to about $15 but we tip her $4 just for good service.
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When I tip, I'd want the back staff having a piece of the pie as well. Since the food aspect is the other half of a great experience.
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When I tip, I'd want the back staff having a piece of the pie as well. Since the food aspect is the other half of a great experience.
Granted, but at the same time, it means other servers can slack off and know they're still going to get a cut of tips from those who are busting their butts.
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Granted, but at the same time, it means other servers can slack off and know they're still going to get a cut of tips from those who are busting their butts.
I think for the majority of restaurants, the tip goes directly to the server and the server cashes out according to her sales - to the kitchen, to bus boy/girl, bartender, and management.

The only places I'd hear about a pool of tips and its' split accordingly, are associated to Asian restaurants i.e/ dim sum places.
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Anyone ever tell their server to bring the cook out and tip them directly and not the server? That would be awesome.

"Yes, can you bring out everyone else who was involved in my dinner tonite? I would like to tip them all, but not you you useless twat"
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Anyone ever tell their server to bring the cook out and tip them directly and not the server? That would be awesome.

"Yes, can you bring out everyone else who was involved in my dinner tonite? I would like to tip them all, but not you you useless twat"
Actually, kind of.

My mom's allergic to Onion and Garlic, which is usually a huge problem when it comes to eating out (ABC and White Spot. That's basically it). So when she went on a trip to Quebec and Atlantic Canada with her friends this fall, they asked at the cafe around the corner from their hotel if the chef would be able to do something for their friend who had this affliction.

So he said yes and the next day they went over for a late lunch, and they mentioned that they were the same ladies--immeidately remembered by the server. So my mom looks through the menu and asks what could be done without onion and garlic. The reply from the server? "He said whatever you want from here, he'll make it. And if you don't see it but you think we can do it from the ingredients? He'll do that too." So she ordered whatever it was, and she said it was one of the best meals she's had in YEARS. So she asked the server if he could come out so she could thank him. So the cook comes out (apparently this very shy francophone dude) and my mom proceeds in her halting french to tell him it was one of the best meals she's ever had and that she wants to thank him and give him a tip beyond what they were leaving for the servers.


Now how's that for reason to leave a tip?
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I think the consensus is if you have a good experience, tip - if you don't, then don't.

And don't be a smartass and ruin someone's day if you don't tip just out some misplaced principle you live by. No you don't owe them anything, but there's no reason to be an asshole about it; just get up and leave.

It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with the whole culture, you do it because the human being who gave you your food was a nice enough person that you want to give them a little something extra, even if it's a buck or two.
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I think the consensus is if you have a good experience, tip - if you don't, then don't.
i think its better to leave a small tip if u receive bad service than to leave no tip at all, this way itll make the servers think y the tip was small rather than have them think ur just a cheap customer who doesnt tip.
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i think its better to leave a small tip if u receive bad service than to leave no tip at all, this way itll make the servers think y the tip was small rather than have them think ur just a cheap customer who doesnt tip.
2 cents if its horrendous....it sends the message quite nicely.
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Can't even leave 2 cents any more....must be 5 cent.

If it needs to be a min of 5 cent.....I LEAVE NOTHING!

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Granted, but at the same time, it means other servers can slack off and know they're still going to get a cut of tips from those who are busting their butts.
In a perfect world, the theory behind the tip pool is that it gets other servers to pick up the slack if one person is getting super slammed, because their money hinges on every server getting good tips. At a restaurant where everyone is professional and on the same page, it works really well for getting people to help each other out. Once you get people leeching off of the system it fucks people over for sure though.
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fuck tips. why should i pay you for doing your job?

TIPS = HELPING THE RESTAURANT SAVE ON LABOR COSTS

why dont we tip every person out there so we can motivate them to do a better job?

i think getting fired would be a good enough motivation to work hard.
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i've read so many tipping threads during my time on this planet that i sort of expect what the discussions gonna be like

i just dropped by to leave my opinion

TIPPING = SAVING THE RESTAURANT'S LABOR COST

and for those who consistently tip others for " doing a good job " on whatever the fuk they were doing for you...

please stop. sooner or later every1 and their mom is gonna expect a goddam tip
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The funny thing is you never hear of servers coming out to a table and asking why the tip was low and what was wrong, you only hear of servers bitching about the cheap ass table that didn't tip enough.


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Don't expect it, don't need it, and whenever I get tipped, I just give it to my boss to put towards beer or lunch for everyone. Or I just give it to the apprentices.

I don't work with the expectation that "better" work gets me a tip. I work with the expectation that I do the job well and the person will be a repeat customer, or that they'll tell their friends how well they were treated and how great the service was. To me, that's more invaluable.
Exactly, what ever happened to doing a good job because it is part of your own personal standards? I only answer to myself and I'd do a stellar job even if I was doing something menial like janitorial service. I also wouldn't get a job in the first place just because it paid tips.

I personally hate the tipping culture because it pretty much has become expected in the restaurant industry.
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