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Old 04-10-2013, 02:58 PM   #126
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That will never happen under the circumstances that 99% of North Koreans are brainwashed to believe that their country is the best and that they are living in the best place on earth under Kim's guidance. If a majority actually knew what was going on, they would've overthrown a long time ago.
But then what does China,SK, USA do with all those North Koreans with no general knowledge about the world. All they know is that Kim is a god and the US is the devil. I doubt China needs and wants to feed millions of uneducated people. And they can't assimilate to South Korea which is a developed country with its own culture.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:21 PM   #127
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The north Koreans may not be as Ill informed as is generally believed. Here's a really good writeup on how the newspaper is read there. I'm on my phone or I'd add my personal touch.

Sauce: Ask a Korean!: Ask a Korean! News: "Journalism" in North Korea (Part III)

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Just going by our common sense, North Korean newspapers are strictly a propaganda mechanism for the labor party, a boring newspaper filled with stories deifying the Kim Il-Sung family. Not only are the stories critical of the regime completely forbidden, but also are the stories about accidents, crimes, disasters or polls. It would difficult to find a newspaper that has a more inflexible and archaic editorial policy. Most articles are about the same 10 years ago as they are now. Therefore, one could easily come to a guess that North Korean people would totally avoid reading the newspaper.

But the reality is quite different -- North Korean people are truly diligent in reading the newspaper. Of course, it is not as if any North Korean can read the newspapers just because they want to read them. Because the newspapers are also rationed by the regime, one cannot read the newspaper unless one is at a certain social level.

Newspapers are popular in North Korea because there are few other channels by which people can learn the world affairs. Although there is a central television station, televisions are difficult to watch because areas outside of Pyongyang only receive a few hours of electricity a day. Also, the news on TV is only about 30 minutes long, again mostly devoted to what Kim Jong-Il has been doing. Further, there really is nothing much to read other than the newspaper. There are only a few magazines, whose copies are so few in number that regular people hardly have even seen one. Except for the books about the Kim family, there is hardly any North Korean literature either. Because of that, seeing any printed material in North Korea is itself a joy. Reading is one of the few joys in North Korea, given that there is practically no television, no Internet, no books, no places to drink and hang out, no karaoke (unlike South Korea) and no culture of leisure.

The first three pages of Rodong Shinmun is boring, as they are devoted to news about Kim Jong-Il. But the last three pages -- domestic news on page 4, South Korean news on page 5 and international news on page 6 -- carry a different story every day. Personally, when I was living in North Korea, I felt alive whenever I read the newspaper.

North Korean people read pages 5 and 6 very, very closely. Of course, South Korea-related news are strictly focused on: propaganda about reunification; denunciations of the South Korean government, capitalists and American imperialists, and; the superiority of the socialist system by highlighting the dark areas of South Korean society. The international news likewise focuses on: expose on the irrationality of the rotten capitalist societies; solidification of anti-American alliance, and; the rise of North Korea's international stature, etc.

However, North Korean people already know that much. So as they read those articles, they use their imagination to picture the outside world. Take, for example, the war in Iraq. When the war broke out, North Korean newspapers would report: "Iraqi army is bravely battling against America's imperial army, downing two fighter jets and five missiles." With this report, North Korean people would think: "Ah, there is a war in Iraq. There would have been a lot of fighter jets, and they only got two. They have no chance -- America would win pretty soon." And in fact, the reports on the exploits of the Iraqi military would decrease over time, and then completely disappear from Rodong Shinmun. Then the people would think: "Iraq is losing the war." Some time later, upon seeing the reports that say "Iraqi patriots are bombing the American military base in Baghdad," North Korean people would think: "So Iraq is now under American rule."

The same goes for news about South Korea. Rodong Shinmun frequently carries a critical article that say, for example: "The South Korean puppet government sentenced one year in prison based on a fraudulent National Security Act to a patriotic young man who posted an article praising Dear Leader on the Internet." Then North Korean people would think: "Just one year -- what a great country. We would be shot immediately if we praised the South Korean president."

In an actual case, a South Korean college student Im Soo-Gyeong visited Pyongyang in 1989, and was sentenced to five years in prison in South Korea. Every day, North Korean newspapers denounced the "barbaric acts of South Korean fascist thieves who sentenced five years to a patriotic young woman." But instead, North Korean people thought: "If one of us went to Seoul and came back, not only ourselves but also every one of our relatives would be killed -- we are the true fascists."

In this manner, North Korean people rarely accept the regime's propaganda at face value, but instead picture the outside world with their imagination. And the result of their imagination is in fact much closer to the truth compared to what is written on the Rodong Shinmun. Even the boring Rodong Shinmun can be pretty entertaining if one reads it as if solving a riddle. Because North Korean people constantly approach the newspaper this way, they have a highly developed sense of reading between the lines and appreciating the hidden meanings.

North Korea's propaganda bureaus are largely aware of this also. It may have overdone in its criticism of South Korean dictatorship such that it created a blowback, but such mistakes are rare today, perhaps because of experience. This year, North Korean newspapers has been silent on the "Jasmine Revolution" of North African and the Middle East. Previously, they would have written a propaganda like: "The people rose up to drive out the puppet regime of the American imperialists and achieved independence." But this time, it has been strangely quiet. I believe that North Korean newspapers learned the fact that keeping quiet is the best strategy, because they know that the people will read it differently no matter how they write it.

If the newspapers do not report a story at all, it would be difficult for North Koreans to understand what is happening in the outside world. But just as soon as the newspapers try to spin the facts in their favor and report, North Koreans appreciate the situation right away based on their excellent imagination.

President Abraham Lincoln said: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." It is as if he was watching North Korea.
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Instead of being uninformed, I'd be more inclined to consider the N.Koreans suffering from a mass collective form of Stockholm syndrome. But at the end of the day, I think it is pretty accurate to say that N.Korean citizens know that if they openly critize their country / government, they are gonna get severely punished for doing it.

While I do not know what the S.Koreans and its government think of "reunifying" with the North in any form or way, I am 100% certain that the Chinese government do not want to see floods of poor, uneducated, and ignorant refugees fleeing across to the Chinese side. In many ways, China is very much caught up in this mess and having some major headaches itself because its N.Korean lapdog is no longer obeying its orders.
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While I do not know what the S.Koreans and its government think of "reunifying" with the North in any form or way, I am 100% certain that the Chinese government do not want to see floods of poor, uneducated, and ignorant refugees fleeing across to the Chinese side. In many ways, China is very much caught up in this mess and having some major headaches itself because its N.Korean lapdog is no longer obeying its orders.
yes supposedly China has sent armed forces to the border with North Korea to try and stem the flow of any refugees as they expect many if a battle does occur
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A look at all of North Korea's conventional arms.

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This makes me sad that humanity has spent so much time, money and effort into things that kill instead of heal
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And if I'm not mistaken, the three characters on the bottom right represent US, South Korea, and Japan (l to r).
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And if I'm not mistaken, the three characters on the bottom right represent US, South Korea, and Japan (l to r).
Hahaha, yes sir. You have US represented by the Obama/Bush morph.
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A look at all of North Korea's conventional arms.

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This makes me sad that humanity has spent so much time, money and effort into things that kill instead of heal

you can't have one without the other.

to know how to heal efficiently, you have to first know how to kill efficiently.


you only know to protect your head, by watching someone elses head get smashed in.
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id like to see some break downs of the actual amounts of war machines produced by countries

its amazing how much volume was produced by Russia in the last 70-100 years
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You know, at first I was going to say "The last thing this situation needs is Japanese hostilities."


...But then I realized that pretty much the only thing the Koreas agree on is the fact that Takeshima/Dokdo doesn't belong to Japan. "Enemy of my enemy, you are my friend."
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^^^ cant believe that blip is even a source of contention you've got to zoom in pretty far to even see it on a map

what's amusing is it also looks like its right in the middle between japan and korea


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Yeah, I saw that a few weeks ago.

It was so stupid I just closed it after 30s.. but I read it was sort of a big fuss on message boards.
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i've never seen a racist or angry japanese person.
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i've never seen a racist or angry japanese person.
Come to Japan, you'll see plenty. Just a few weeks ago they were burning South Korean flags, and shouting to kick all Koreans out of the country and ban hangol.

If you we're being sarcastic, I apologize. Hard to catch sometimes. But there is an ever growing segment of right wingers in Japan that are very angry and VERY racist.

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i've never seen a racist or angry japanese person.
You obviously haven't gone drinking with Japanese people before.
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That will never happen under the circumstances that 99% of North Koreans are brainwashed to believe that their country is the best and that they are living in the best place on earth under Kim's guidance. If a majority actually knew what was going on, they would've overthrown a long time ago.
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You obviously haven't gone drinking with Japanese people before.
Same with Chinese/Korean/Taiwanese

seriously, however sad/retarded this may sound... this hate/misunderstanding is not going away anytime soon.

My ex gf was japanese and the mis-perception she was taught in Japan was mind blowing. My friend's gf is japanese and they always argue over stupid thing like which country is better and which culture is superior.

Its almost ingrained into everything sometimes I think the only way is to just duke it out. WW3 Japan vs China vs Korea.... settle it once and for all eventho it sounds counter productive.

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