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Old 03-11-2013, 11:35 AM   #1
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Getting pulled over without drivers license on you

Always thought about this, what would happen if you were to get pulled over and you don't have your license on you. Say for whatever reason you forgot your wallet at home. You DO actually have a license but you're unable to present it at that very moment. And what if you remember your drivers license number?
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depends on the cop and the circumstances. You can get a ticket for failure to provide DL, as well as have your car impounded. However, sometimes if you're nice, and you know the DL #, your address, birthdate and the expiry date on your DL, they can run a check to see if it's valid, and give you a warning.
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I got a $81 ticket for failure to produce driver's license lol

Be honest and cop won't throw the book at you (because they can, i.e. impoundment/towing)
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depends on the cop and the circumstances. You can get a ticket for failure to provide DL, as well as have your car impounded. However, sometimes if you're nice, and you know the DL #, your address, birthdate and the expiry date on your DL, they can run a check to see if it's valid, and give you a warning.
A VI for failing to produce when you indeed have a valid DL is pretty extreme. All the PO has to do is run your name and it will show whether you do have a valid DL. That is, if the PO is satisfied that you are who you say you are.
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I'd say it depends on the cop, a friend of mine got into an accident and his wallet went flying and he couldn't find it so the cop gave him a failure to produce ticket
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i got the $81 ticket. I had my DL # memorized and had my other ID's to prove it, but still didnt work
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It depends on the cop - and how suspicious they are. I've heard of stories from Cops talking about drivers who drive while suspended - they would grab info from their sibling/friend - and pretend to be them when they are pulled over.

I would assume that having your DL# memorized would help the cop to identify you, but may not save you from a "fail to produce DL" ticket.
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i got the $81 ticket. I had my DL # memorized and had my other ID's to prove it, but still didnt work
the ticket isn't for not having a DL. it is for not physically having your DL so the PO can examine it. If you were driving while unlicenced, you're opening up another can of worms.
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"Failure to provide DL".

If you have a secondary ID like the BCID, it will speed up the process tremendously. They will verify current address and birthdate.
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I always thought you had 24 hours to produce it at if pulled over without it?
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I always thought you had 24 hours to produce it at if pulled over without it?
Not in BC. Sec 33(1) MVA $81 Failure to produce DL or Registration papers.

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would keeping a colour photocopy of my license in my car with my address scrubbed out (for security reasons) be any better in any circumstances?

I've had times where i left my wallet at home while driving to a friend's house and had to go back to get it.
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I keep a photo of it on my phone + have it memorized just in case
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would keeping a colour photocopy of my license in my car with my address scrubbed out (for security reasons) be any better in any circumstances?

I've had times where i left my wallet at home while driving to a friend's house and had to go back to get it.
I know sometimes people will forget their wallet at home on the odd occasion, but if you're at the point where you need a photocopy of your licence in your car, because you constantly forget your wallet at home.... maybe you need to umm.. stop forgetting!
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A VI for failing to produce when you indeed have a valid DL is pretty extreme. All the PO has to do is run your name and it will show whether you do have a valid DL. That is, if the PO is satisfied that you are who you say you are.

As someone who had wasted countless hours on personation cases where someone used another's name, I used to almost always issue VTs for fail to produce. Family members, former room mates and close friends have all screwed their buddies by getting them a VT for what the driver actually did. I started taking pictures to attach to my copy of the VT and you would not be surprised how many people suddenly remembered the correct name when the camera appeared, followed with a warning about criminal charges for a traffic ticket if they were lying.
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As someone who had wasted countless hours on personation cases where someone used another's name, I used to almost always issue VTs for fail to produce. Family members, former room mates and close friends have all screwed their buddies by getting them a VT for what the driver actually did. I started taking pictures to attach to my copy of the VT and you would not be surprised how many people suddenly remembered the correct name when the camera appeared, followed with a warning about criminal charges for a traffic ticket if they were lying.
Why would it make a difference if its a photograph, photocopy or an actual copy of the license? You have all the necessary information to look the person up.
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Because we can't see photos linked to a drivers licence in our computer. Not hard to doctor up a drivers licence, make a photocopy/take a photo of the fake thing and present it as real. When we have the real one in-hand, we can confirm its authenticity and that it belongs to the person who handed it to us.
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We can also see altered DLs that are used to get into clubs while underage. Yes I seized them. Turning an 8 into a 3 is not that hard on a photocopy...easy to spot on a real DL..which is swiped on the card reader in the Police Car....another way to confirm it is real.
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For my motorcycle insurance they give me 1 piece of paper the size of a license, but it has just the bare minimum on it incase I do get pulled over, but it has the insurance stamp on the back to "make it legit".

Can't they do that with a paper version of an ID just so I can store it in my glove box of my truck along with insurance papers?

Worst case, would I be able to go to icbc and say I lost my dl...get a new duplicate one and just keep it in my glove box?
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depends on the cop and the circumstances. You can get a ticket for failure to provide DL, as well as have your car impounded. However, sometimes if you're nice, and you know the DL #, your address, birthdate and the expiry date on your DL, they can run a check to see if it's valid, and give you a warning.
This is so true. I got stopped in a roadcheck just outside Kelowna once, in my work van with a cracked windshield. A few days before, I'd put in for a criminal record check and so had to pull out my license for the clerk at the cop shop to photocopy... then put it back in a coat pocket instead of my wallet, and forgot it there.

Fortunately the cop who stopped me appreciated the irony of it... took my SIN number instead to look me up, let me go with just a box 3 and 15 days to get the windshield fixed.
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Kelowna eh?? Was that more than 12 months ago??? I could maybe make a phone call...........
Criminal record eh....the only one I can think of is anything sung by "The Beaver"....
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As someone who had wasted countless hours on personation cases where someone used another's name, I used to almost always issue VTs for fail to produce. Family members, former room mates and close friends have all screwed their buddies by getting them a VT for what the driver actually did. I started taking pictures to attach to my copy of the VT and you would not be surprised how many people suddenly remembered the correct name when the camera appeared, followed with a warning about criminal charges for a traffic ticket if they were lying.
say I went out one night, kept the wallet at home, just took a money clip with my id. I lose my DL that night and get pulled over the day after. in that event that I were to not have my DL, yet I had the rest of my wallet..i know my DL id number, give all the right information, and show a firearms license and the other 15 random licenses/cards with my name and address and photo on them with the same information to prove im not lying...any leniency there?
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I was stopped at a license check driving my 5 ton and I had forgot my wallet in my bowling bag. Gave the officer my license number and birth date and he came back after checking it out and told me to drive safe and be sure to remember it next time. It all comes down to the particular officer that pulled you over just like most other tickets. Most officers aren't inherently "assholes" I've received a lot of tickets in my day but also been let off a fair amount as well.

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