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Old 04-30-2013, 01:25 PM   #1
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Massive explosion as civilian airliner crashes in Afghanistan

Video: Watch as airliner in Afghanistan crashes near airport | canada.com

allah akbar!

in all seriousness though, I can relate, i've done that many times in every flight simulator. lol!!!!

i wonder what happened, unbalanced aircraft?
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:29 PM   #2
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Probably load shift to the rear of the plane, or improper loading of heavier goods in the tail section.
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Holy crap, it was so eerie to see such a massive plane hang in the air momentarily before coming down.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:33 PM   #4
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OR maybe the pilot was like:

"CHECK THIS OUT GUYS!!!"

then moments later, "fuck."


yeah the load probably was not balanced... or not strapped down properly. maybe it slid to the back and... totally fucked the weight up.
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I'm no pilot, but its takeoff angle seemed INCREDIBLY steep. Could a stall under such heavy load be the simple culprit?
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I'm no pilot, but its takeoff angle seemed INCREDIBLY steep. Could a stall under such heavy load be the simple culprit?
This. An airliner does not have the thrust to sustain such a high Angle of Attack... I wonder how the hell that nose-up attitude happened?
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^ steep due to obvious reason (Afghanistan) security,, seems like engine just stalled.. alot of airports need planes to make steep approach and take off, but in this case...looks steep...could be just the angle of recording..
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Wow, looks like the plane had too much much weight, stalled and than crashed.
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Cargo must've become loose and shifted all the weight to the back suddenly. Take-offs are the most stressful on the plane.
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It was a National Air Cargo plane heading from Afghanistan to Dubai...

Definitely seems like a cargo shift, its happened before.
Apparently the pilot reported a stall and as you can see tried compensating for the yaw and looks like he did a decent job of getting the wings level and nose down but they were way too low to ever make a recovery.
Thats a very haunting video to watch.

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Crash: National Air Cargo B744 at Bagram on Apr 29th 2013, lost height shortly after takeoff
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Cargo must've become loose and shifted all the weight to the back suddenly. Take-offs are the most stressful on the plane.
Lol no. Most stressful on the engine, sorta.

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It was a National Air Cargo plane heading from Afghanistan to Dubai...

Definitely seems like a cargo shift, its happened before.
Apparently the pilot reported a stall and as you can see tried compensating for the yaw and looks like he did a decent job of getting the wings level and nose down but they were way too low to ever make a recovery.
Thats a very haunting video to watch.

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Crash: National Air Cargo B744 at Bagram on Apr 29th 2013, lost height shortly after takeoff
Are you kidding me? He held the stall until he got a wing drop, that's pretty impressive considering the stick shaker comes on so early in that plane.

As for the steep take off angle, ya it's stupid steep. The only time that a 747 can "do" that is if it's empty. Talking to my sim instructor this semester and Cathay Pacific would sometimes be doing like 500fpm climbs out of Vancouver on a hot day with a full load of passengers.

What i'm thinking is that the cargo shifted so bad that no amount of elevator down could overcome the rearward cog
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thought explosion would be bigger for such a large plane
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Holy shit. National is one of our clients and one of our sales guys told me about this today. I had no idea there was a video
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Sad to just see 7 lives vaporize like that.
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at least they died instantly. RIP.

In this case, I could imagine the pilots yell, ENGINEER MORE POWER! BUT NO RESERVE POWER available
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That was crazy.

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