On a scale of 1-10 how much do you relate to this pic?

[dinamix]

That's a typical white guys life. I'm not white.
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[westopher]

Originally Posted by dinamix

That's a typical white guys life. I'm not white.
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You are dumb as shit though.

[dinamix]

Originally Posted by westopher

You are dumb as shit though.

Ok.
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[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by dinamix

That's a typical white guys life. I'm not white.
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Or, you could live a life of middle-class mediocrity like most Asians raised in North America and have nothing to show for it.

Be the best you can be and take chances when you're young.

[CharlesInCharge]

Only this one resonated with me... I felt I had to chart out those precious 30 years.

[Levitron]

After making a move to the UK, I realised how much of a truth this comic is for most people living in Vancouver (dare I say for most people living in big cities in North America). Most people in Europe know 2+ languages. English is only one of many fluent languages they speak.

You live through life following rules of society...and movies romanticise traveling afar without any cares. Truth is, we all can do that before we have kids or start a family. Heck, you can even do it with kids (just a bit more complicated). Like someone said before, it's all about the experiences. Being Canadian makes it even easier. Make use of that working holiday visa before you turn 30!!!

At the end of the day, moral of the story is go see the world. Whether or not you're a people person, you can learn to appreciate what this world has to offer outside of Vancouver.

[Hurricane]

I'll take that a step further...

If you have never lived in a foreign country (ie. a place where the culture/language/food is different from your own in some ways) you can not be anything near a 1,2,3. If you don't have the desire to get out and see the world, and learn about the differences that exist, you can only compare yourself to everyone else who answers the question 'What's new?' with 'Same old, Same old' every week of their lives.

In fact, that is a good litmus test. Ask yourself every week 'Whats new?' and if you cant fill a 30 minute void with information, time to pick it up.

Additionally, I know of a guy who is 50ish, lives in his parents basement, enjoys herbs and obscure strategic military computer games. He also questions authority, argues with everyone with a different viewpoint, and wrote an entire screenplay. He doesn't follow the crowd whatsoever.

If someone told me this guy leads or led a remarkable life, I may just die of laughter.

80-90% of people are normal or average. 5-10% are remarkably weird, and 5-10% are remarkable.

Average is not a bad thing, and its just relative. Average must exist at some place in the spectrum of whats possible and where the majority of people fall. The average 'average person' today would look like some kind of amazing super human to people who grew up a few hundred years ago.

That said - to all you 10's....travel! - and not just to a beach in Cancun, Hawaii, or Thailand. It doesn't have to be dangerous, but it does have to be different.

I have never met a truly interesting person in my life who hasn't been to more countries than he/she has fingers. Go figure.

[SkinnyPupp]

Legitimately 0

Going through all the 11 items

1) I have never accepted anything at face value, I questioned everything my entire life
2) I questioned authority all the time, got in a lot of trouble over it constantly.
3) Didn't go to college
4) Work when I want to, not 40 hours a week. Sometimes I do more work than that, sometimes less
5) Been all over Asia, to safe places as well as the shitty ones
6) Don't own a home
7) Learning cantonese
8) I write every day.. not a book but I don't think about that
9) I own my own business, my wife owns one too, we are partners in another
10) heh...
11) Nope

[twitchyzero]

I fall under only 1: I do tend to accept things at face value (that's an age thing tho...most do when they are under 25)

[Phil@rise]

Nothin but safe choices here lol.

This chart is stupid. how does one effectively seperate the average from the exceptional when we are in a system of averages created by people raised in a system of averages. The system changes with every generation only to be more complacent and more average due to the unwillingness of those to stand up against conformity.
The person who created that little comic was raised in that system and whether they believe it or not are also tarnished by the illness that is averageitis.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by Yodamaster

The measure of a man (or woman) has nothing to do with how rare or valuable his or her possessions are. I respect those that play music on the street far more than the millionaires that inherited a vault full of cash.

I don't know what to think of that comment, other than it being a shallow view of human worth.

of course not.

I know plenty of kids that inherited money or come from rich families and all they do is party all day and night everyday.

but are they average? no.
do they do average things? no.

they go on vacations every month. they travel a lot. that's a lot more than most of you guys have done right?

playing music on the street? is that average? no.
can anyone that plays an instrument do it? yes.

what else can they do with their lives? nothing? probably.

this thread isnt about respect.

it's about being average.


if people fail to see the fact that having money allows you to do things... to do almost anything you want... then.. they fail. miserably.

i don't care if a millionaire guy does nothing except blow his money on drugs and hookers.
thats something NONE OF US have the choice of doing, even if we WANTED to.

thats an experience he has access to, that we don't.

money, is a tool. its only limited by your mind.

we all have minds. but we're all limited by money.

it's that simple.

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Experiences > Possessions/money

Easy for someone who is not wealthy to say I suppose though but make the best of what ya got
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yeah and someone that has money probably has a lot more experiences than someone that doesnt have money.

it's that simple.

what experiences do you have?

i bet you anyone with money can do whatever you could anytime they wanted. right?

they make the best of what they got too. and they got a lot more.

Originally Posted by JD¹³

Bullshit. There are incredible people all over the world from chemists to snowboarders to history professors.

Also, 1/10 simply because I haven't started my own business... yet.

Actually, not everyone is gonna make it. In fact the vast majority won't because they expect success to come to them rather than working their asses off for it. Stupid pic, sorry.

yeah and how many other snowboarders, history professors and chemists are there?
A SHIT TON BRO.

this thread isnt about incredible people. it's about being average.

i suggest you all go look up what average means.

yeah maybe i wont ever do a 1080 spin on a snowboard while i fall off a 1000 foot cliff.

cuz im not a snowboarder. but i do have the money to BE a snowboarder if i wanted to. and if i really really wanted to do those crazy things... i could. because i have the money to get into that hobby.

but do i have the money to get into being an F1 driver? no.
will i ever drive an F1 car? maybe if i were a millionaire i could pay someone somewhere to let me drive a lap or two around. yes. cuz money.

do i have the money to go on a vacation once a month for the rest of my life. and i don't mean a budget vacation. i mean anywhere i want in the world living lavishly. NO.
would those vacations give me tons of experiences and insight vs someone that cant? YES.

money lets you do WHAT you want, WHEN you want.

most people have no money. they are stuck at their jobs. they have no choice. if it isnt this job, it's some other job.

their experiences are limited to their bubble. they cannot ever leave that bubble.

i mean sure, someone can get sick of it and go to africa and help the poor and see all those things... but WHO CANT? it doesn't take much to do that. all it takes is the will to want to do it.

so lets just eliminate all experiences where all it takes is will power.
and only include experiences which involve skill sets or money or some kind of hookup.

so yes, having money, lots of it, makes u exceptional. it makes u not average.
it allows you to do many things that other people CANT.
it allows you to do whatever you want, whenever you want.


yes there are exceptions
skinnypupp is self employed and follows his own schedule. which is much more freedom than 99% ppl have
j13 flies jets... not many ppl do that either.

but lets face it, those experiences are still within "one" bubble within itself.

someone that has millions or billions of dollars, has all those, plus more. if they wanted to fly a jet, they could pay someone. they could retire now and have their own schedule forever.
they can have ALL of that plus more.

its not about having one set of unique experiences... it's about having MANY from many bubbles. that's what makes u exceptional and not average.

multiple trees of experiences and skills.


if you only measure from one point it's not very special.
i could take any job and praise it as special.

i could take some... i duno, say a carpenter.
sure he has a unique set of skills and experiences that only a carpenter would have. but what else does he have?
its only ONE thing.

anyone can use that and call themselves special.
a banker will have experiences only a banker would have.
a bus driver will have experiences only a bus driver has.

but its the person that has ALL of those, that makes them exceptional.
no, correction... a person that has near immediate ACCESS to do ALL of those, whenever he wants... exceptional.


though all of what i said is kind of pointless.

after all, no one is really that special. we are all human. we will all die. we will all be forgotten in time.
really, humanity is measured by the collective power of all of us. no one person is special. we're just ants. whole colonies can be destroyed, and no one would care or remember given enough time.

[Hondaracer]

^ I've been all over Europe, all over Canada, all over USA and before I'm 30 ill probably do Asia a decent respect

I see people all the time at the Casino who have tonnes of money to blow playing high limit tables etc who probably have far more money than I do. However I highly doubt these people have even been to Whistler let alone seen things I have. It's sad actually that people have no ideas the absolute wonders that exist here in BC alone. Ever heard of Desolation Sound, prideaux haven? Christmas in July there?

Probably not cause most people don't even know their backyard let alone outside their comfort zone.

Ulic loves to speak In these broad generalizations when in fact the vast majority of people haven't experienced shit whether they are wealthy or not.
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[Energy]

This thread is going to become another money or experiences thread ala Jason00s2000

[H.Specter]

Originally Posted by westopher

You are dumb as shit though.

[JD¹³]

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma

though all of what i said is kind of pointless.

Couldn't read most of that dribble so thanks for summing it all up for us. Your obsession with money and the need to buy happiness is sad.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

I see people all the time at the Casino who have tonnes of money to blow playing high limit tables etc who probably have far more money than I do. However I highly doubt these people have even been to Whistler let alone seen things I have.

Ulic loves to speak In these broad generalizations when in fact the vast majority of people haven't experienced shit whether they are wealthy or not.
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The people that blow money at the casinos know that doing those things you mentioned will not bring them the same feeling they get when they are betting thousands of dollars at a time. Their excitement and "lively" levels cannot be satisfied by doing the things you mentioned. They KNOW they can do those things. that ALONE, already makes it boring. but they are doing something you can't do. bet thousands of dollars at a time in a single bet and lose it. the excitement from that exceeds anything else they can do.

anyway, you missed my point.

yes, most people experience jack shit.

but if suddenly some of these "people" had some motivational insight to get up and DO something... the people with the money CAN. the people without money CAN'T... they don't have the option to. if they're super motivated, they have to save up for months, perhaps years, or even fucking restructure their entire lives and get a new career just so they can pursue some desire or whim.


a man with dreams and desires, but stuck in a perpetual cycle denying him of these things, is still less than a lazy god that sits there, does nothing and never exercises his powers.


knowing you can, already puts you on top.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by JD¹³

Couldn't read most of that dribble so thanks for summing it all up for us. Your obsession with money and the need to buy happiness is sad.

your misconception of how money is shallow and useless is even more sad.

money can be used as a tool, and your big perpetual self feeding ego blocks that knowledge from reaching your brain. The image of yourself and your "achievements" and "skills" gets in your way.

your achievements and skills can be bought.

you try to stand out from the crowd by displaying skills and experiences.

You think your skills of flying a plane makes you special and cool... yes perhaps.

but you know what, any fucking wise human being would know the skill that it takes to acquire millions or even billions of dollars is even more special. not because money is shallow, but because it is actually the hardest thing to do on this planet. it is a display of the greatest skill on this planet.

it's not an obsession with money. unlike you, I know a powerful tool when its in front of me. but all you see is lambos, hookers and blow, groceries, a "secure" life, and no mortgage.

who's the sad one?

You're the one aiming to sit in a plane. I'm the one aiming to buy out the guys that design the fucking things so that you can fucking fulfil your little fucking fantasy.

think bigger dude.

you fly weapons of destruction. you can blow your enemies away with a click of a button.

little do you know your commanders are following orders from people that have bought them out through corporations with political power.

They already used the most powerful weapon in the world, to control you, so that you can go destroy their enemies.

who's the sad one again?

think bigger.



the idiot rich desire the fancy sports cars.
the wise rich desire the sport car factory.



it's not sad. I'm a human being. I am a man. I desire control, power. Control is the ultimate form of power. we're looking for ultimate experiences right? total control is the ultimate experience.

it is something barely anyone ever has in the lives. most people don't even have control of where they want to go. let alone the trillions of other random factors in their lives... let alone any "cool" experiences.



Think about it this way dude.

if there were a giant pile of money sitting there for you to take. and it had no repercussions. nothing. it was free. legally yours to take. would you take it?
yes obviously...

now what's stopping you from actually making that much? the work involved right? the skills involved to do the work right?

so which is it? is money shallow? or is it that you actually don't have the skills to do it? so you divert it to the next best thing you can do and the ego of course naturally lies to the self and tells the self that it is the right choice.

from what I've seen, people that use the line you have, are only displaying the fact that they have given up the tough fight. They've realised it's so tough, that it will probably bring more pain and misery into their lives than happiness... while trying to achieve it. so they choose the lower road, the safer one. The one where they don't face sadness, but they give up the ultimate expression of power. they choose to force themselves into a mentality that they SHOULD be satisfied with what they have, through the excuse of labelling money shallow.

they call it whatever they want man... reality buddy, it just means they don't have the skills to do it.

money isn't the only source of happiness, but it sure as hell can add a lot more options to your life, which can lead to much more happiness.


like i said, if you never had the option you cant critisize dude.
you dont even know what its like to have money do you?

if some guy replies this thread and says he made it as a millionaire or a billionaire, and gave it all up because it was shittier than his previous life... i'll shut up.
he has the RIGHT to say money is shallow and money is sad.
you do not.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by Yodamaster

The measure of a man (or woman) has nothing to do with how rare or valuable his or her possessions are. I respect those that play music on the street far more than the millionaires that inherited a vault full of cash.

and back to this...

honestly, what if the poor musician on the street inherited a lot of money?

could he not FULFIL HIS DREAMS?

he could play music his whole life, no one has to give him a dime.

he could play on the streets 1 hour a day. 10 hours a day. up to him.
he could perform only when his energy levels are optimal.
he could spend the rest of his time at home writing music. playing for himself.

he could then go out and play for people and not get paid and not care.

before after playing for a few hours if there was no money in his little box on the street, his mind would start to fill with fears of not able to pay his bills. having to eat instant noodles instead of steak. his state of mind doing what he loves is disturbed and shattered. it's not a pure experience any more. tainted experiences are never fulfilling.

with money, and with the discipline of not blowing it all... would give him access to what he loves most.

you tell me that's not buying happiness. you tell me that's not allowing him to do what he loves most.

some people man...fuck... money pays more than just the bills and food. you can use it to control your life, by removing yourself from being dependent on anyone, or controlling others to do the fucking work.



money does not equate to possessions... possessions is just a small side bonus. most people just have no idea how to use money, and focus and get lost in the little things like possessions because it's the only fucking thing they've been taught their whole lives. they've only ever seen money been used that way, they don't know anything else about it.

for fucks sakes, i sometimes feel like i'm lecturing a bunch of small town red necks at some fucking newb financial advisor presentation... the poor domesticated minds out there.


I guess you can't lecture the domesticated mind on the delights of power and control, when they derive a sense pleasure and self fulfilment from taking orders and giving service.

I'm sorry, I should have realised that from the start.


.

[Geoc]

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[JD¹³]

Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma

your misconception of how money is shallow and useless is even more sad.
I have never made those statements anywhere, ever.

your achievements and skills can be bought.
Not really. If you simply mean piloting a jet then yes you can, but it would never be the same as what we do.

You're the one aiming to sit in a plane. I'm the one aiming to buy out the guys that design the fucking things so that you can fucking fulfil your little fucking fantasy.
Didn't you used to work in a porn shop? You've got some stairs to climb. I'm also living a reality, I think you might be the one in fantasy land.

Money's not a major influence in my life because I'm rich with experiences, this is the way it is for a lot of people. I know multi-millionaires with the wealth and ability to do what they want when they want, and they're not more or less happy than I am. In fact some are miserable with addiction problems and have few positive relationships with friends or serious relationships with a significant other due to lack of trust and exploitation. Some who inherited their wealth have openly said they wish they hadn't so they could feel like they'd accomplished something on their own. That person couldn't give a shit that he could rip a Ferrari around on the Gumball tour with some buxom escort on his arm.

Sounds like the life you want and if you get there and it makes you happy then you're winning either way. But talk is cheap, you're probably one of those "we're all gonna make it" kids who have all these grand uneducated ideas, but you've never had the balls and the work ethic to change your reality and gain the experience you need to get to where you want to be. You're Jason02S2000 without a book; at least he tried something. As far as I can tell you're just an opinionated kid who spends way too much time on a web forum typing barely cohesive sentences. Good luck with your plans for world domination Your opinion on this topic will be valid when you've accomplished..... anything.

[JKam]

I'll probably end up being 5/10 but I don't give a shit. If every night I can go to a place I can call home, to a loving wife, great kids and make enough money to adequately support my family I'd be happy. I don't need to be a superstar businessman millionaire type because usually their lives are pretty stressful.

1,2 and 8 are pretty stupid though. Gotta be able to think for yourself and not everyone wants to write a book. The rest I would call an average American life, it was even considered the American dream a couple of decades ago.

[PJ]

Originally Posted by JKam

and not everyone wants to write a book.

I think the book is just an example of something people always dream of doing, but never pull the trigger due to complacency, laziness, whatever. Write that book, record that album, get that degree, build that car, pick up that hobby, learn that skill, etc.

[JKam]

Originally Posted by PJ

I think the book is just an example of what people always dreamed of doing, but never pulled the trigger due to complacency, laziness, whatever. Write that book, record that album, get that degree, build that car, pick up that hobby, learn that skill, etc.

I guess I took that for face value. Looks like I'm going to be 6/10

[tegra7]

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[Marco911]

Originally Posted by Gnomes

Notice that in the picture, there is no family involved aside from parents. No wife, kids, grand kids, siblings, friends, etc.

As a lazy introvert, I personally dont mind being seen as an unremarkable man. Being remarkable means more responsibility and work. Nothing wrong being average. Being sub-par contributor to society is a major problem though. Out of 100 people who strive for greatness, how many do become great? We only hear success stories and not the story of people who tried, didnt work out, back to their unremarkable average life.

That's fine to have that attitude. But too many people with your attitude become entitled and mooch off the economic contributions of others. At some point, you should ask yourself if you are a net benefit or a net loss to society?