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Old 08-05-2013, 11:39 AM   #1
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Escaped Boa Constrictor kills two children in New Brunswick

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2 children dead after snake escapes N.B. urban zoo - New Brunswick - CBC News

Two children died after a large snake got into an apartment in Campbellton, N.B.

The snake is believed to have gotten loose from an urban zoo called Reptile Ocean. The victims were reportedly five and seven years old. They were in the apartment above the zoo.

Initial reports suggest the snake was a boa constrictor. CBC is trying to confirm the details.

"The city is in shock," said Deputy Mayor Ian Comeau.

He added that the giant snakes have only been legally imported since 2009.

Police have not yet commented on the case, and it's not yet clear how the snake escaped.
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wtf. who would live in an apartment above a "zoo". thing looks more like a pet shop
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Can the owner of the snake be held criminally responsible?
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Doesn't look like a zoo at all.... I'm sure everything is for sale in there!!
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Can the owner of the snake be held criminally responsible?
Not criminally unless he had intent but he might be found negligent.
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Not criminally unless he had intent but he might be found negligent.
Under the Criminal Code of Canada, there is something called Criminal Negligence, so yes he/she COULD be charged criminally (depending on the circumstances)

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Under the Criminal Code of Canada, there is something called Criminal Negligence, so yes he/she COULD be charged criminally (depending on the circumstances)

Criminal Negligence

219. (1) Every one is criminally negligent who

(a) in doing anything, or

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...and in Canada, enjoy paying that fine, eh?
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...and in Canada, enjoy paying that fine, eh?
Agreed.
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Under the Criminal Code of Canada, there is something called Criminal Negligence, so yes he/she COULD be charged criminally (depending on the circumstances)

Criminal Negligence

219. (1) Every one is criminally negligent who

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(b) in omitting to do anything that it is his duty to do,

shows wanton or reckless disregard for the lives or safety of other persons.
Thanks for this. You're right, I totally forgot about s.219 and it was on my final too
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Thanks for this. You're right, I totally forgot about s.219 and it was on my final too
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wtf. who would live in an apartment above a "zoo". thing looks more like a pet shop
The owner? who lives on top of a convenience store?
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I wonder if they were only suffocated to death or actually eaten...
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you get suffocated first than eaten...
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yeah but Boa don't usually eat medium-sized mammals...but I guess they were small children
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Dont think they were eaten as bodies were found. They were probably attacked as the snake felt threaten.
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Read somewhere it's a rock python. If so they are the biggest python in the world. Really sad story but I hope this doesn't get mis reported and bring ever more restriction and bad press to the hobby. If kept properly there should be no chance for the snake to escape. Aka this is a complete human error
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Geez the thing was 15 ft!

15-feet long African rock python escapes from pet store, kills two boys (age 5 and 7) : TreeHugger
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15 ft is just average for rock python. Some have been known to reach 20ft plus.
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Something sounds a little fishy here.

I think there is going to more to this story when the dust settles.

Its just not all adding up. I don't think its even possible for a snake to kill two 'prey' at once. Also, were they in a soundproof room? Not a single scream?

Granted, I have never seen a 15 ft Rock Python go after a kid, so I can't speak from experience. Maybe he smelled food on them from dinner, and wrapped them both up in one big bundle.

Interesting that the son of the snakes owner was safely asleep in another room without his friends. Isn't being together the whole point of sleepovers?

Either way RIP
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Something definitely smells fishy. A python big enough to kill 7 years old are super heavy and it's impossible for them to climb up on ventilation. Snakes also don't just go on killing spree. If they killed it they will eat it. Interested to see official autopsy.
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Something definitely smells fishy. A python big enough to kill 7 years old are super heavy and it's impossible for them to climb up on ventilation. Snakes also don't just go on killing spree. If they killed it they will eat it. Interested to see official autopsy.
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Kids were playing with animals at a farm all day. The animal smell was still on them so they smelt like prey to the snake.
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^ Agree, something's fishy. Pythons apparently bite to get a grip then wrap around to constrict. I find it odd that a child wouldn't get one scream out before being wrapped up. And what about the second child? Did they sleep through it then get attacked? Or did they get wrapped up "by accident" together by the python (which seems unlikely to me)?

Pythons also will try to retreat if threatened or bite then retreat. They don't constrict/kill as self defense.

Autopsy will be very interesting.

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Something sounds a little fishy here.

I think there is going to more to this story when the dust settles.

Its just not all adding up. I don't think its even possible for a snake to kill two 'prey' at once. Also, were they in a soundproof room? Not a single scream?

Granted, I have never seen a 15 ft Rock Python go after a kid, so I can't speak from experience. Maybe he smelled food on them from dinner, and wrapped them both up in one big bundle.

Interesting that the son of the snakes owner was safely asleep in another room without his friends. Isn't being together the whole point of sleepovers?

Either way RIP
It would probably be impossible to scream if a snake that large was crushing your torso.
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