No.

I'm solely addressing the issue of Translink charging $6 for the Compass card. I'm not here to sympathize with anybody, or to bitch anybody out. Take your irrelevant messages elsewhere.

seems reasonable. the pros outweigh the cons.

haha, I laugh at translink for their incompetence. I had to take the bus for a few weeks and using the canada line. I don't know why they decided to use fare gates with doors, and not turnstiles. those things are going to break down in the heart beat. I don't think their enough of those fare gates along the canada line either. There will be line ups going in and out of the station. Especially cambie, that fucking station is retarded with the amount of traffic flowing thru there.

I'll just stick to driving for the next 10 yrs. This shit that their planning and equipment their using, ain't going to get people out of their cars. :lawl:

We'll see how it works out in time. Even if you drive, I wouldn't be surprised if all the bridges were tolled in 10 years. LOL. Vancouver, what a great city, all of the first world problems to be had.

Scenario: Waterfront to Metrotown bus

- User swipes to get on bus at Waterfront
- User swipes at the next stop (shortest distance, lowest cost)
- User rides all the way to Metro and gets out with the masses

System could be taken advantage in this way. Let me know if I'm wrong anywhere.

OMG the facts! No , keep them away!!!!! They shed too much light on the issues of the day!

Doesn't that mean you double swipe to get out? Well, I guess it works if you walk really close behind someone and there isn't an attendant there.

Personally, I find that turnstiles work better for those who are generally slimmer. Compared to our southern neighbours, Canadians -- and Vancouverites in particular -- are not as portly. But we still have our fair share of overweight / obese people. Using gates instead turnstiles would very likely work better for this particular group.

that was what i thought of when i first heard about the tap on and tap off. i am sure this is what alot of people are going to do.

I hope its as simple as scan and walk, and works that fast. That's how the system is in MTL, TO and NYC and it works really well and fast. However they use turnstiles and not gates.. too many moving parts = more parts to fix when it breaks down

^ go with a group of friends, first guy scans, 6 walk through lol

Does this mean that the transit cops can no longer be able to do fare checks on the train??
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^ transit cops will have a portable reader than can check if your compass card has been validated (ie tapped on/off/or have enough cash)

Ugh, this whole fare evasion hunt is getting out of hand. I would rather have them focus on more frequent service, longer hours and increased reliability.

And the gates open and close pretty quick, those friends better be as fast as jamacians and/or kenyans.

but to have more frequent service and longer hours, they need more money!

Just curious.. but for who that are complaining, have they ever even used another transit system with a pass? Everything is being blown out of proportion.

I'm just curious if they'll make an NFC app.

Cut non-utilized routes and put them on ones that are over capacity.

LOL, Translink doesn't have any money. They can't even build bridges without tolls anymore.
They sure as hell aren't going to raise fares again... or maybe they will... who knows.

I've used Singapore metro and RapidKL in Kuala Lumpur. During my visit I didn't see one transit cop. The volume of buses in a Sinapore bus station would put any Translink station to shame.

This thread hurts my head.

No, sorry... some of the comments in this thread hurts my head. The thread in general is blown out of proportion.

:facepalm:

First world problems, indeed.

people are Still going to use transit.. They have no other choice.
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I was born and raise in HK and I have to say public tranist in HK is a lot better.

7 million people in a 1000 km area vs 2.5 million in a 3000km area.

Not even comparable.

:facepalm:

Just to get some clarification, when the Compass Card comes to light, Will they still be charging commuters based on zones or by distance travelled? If the latter, how much per stop or km?

zone. like others have mentioned, hopefully with the card it allows translink to get more information on how people are travelling so they can look at different ways to charge in the future

zones. first swipe will auto charge your card 3 zone fare, and on swipe off, it will credit back the zone difference.

For Seoul, the base rate is 1,050won for 10km, and free for children 6 and under.

For any distance exceeding 10km (within Seoul), it's 100won for each additional 5km.
For any distances exceeding 40km (within Seoul), it's 100won for each additional 10km.
For any distances exceeding 30km (outside Seoul), it's 100won for each additional 5km.

* 1,050won is about a dollar, and 100won is about a dime

I hope we see something similar to this in Vancouver as it makes much more sense than the zone thing, especially for those that live on the Burnaby/Vancouver border.

I think it will change to be a distance based system, but imagine putting in a whole new fare system AND changing the way its charged all on the same day.

You would basically be asking for everyone to accept that everything they knew of the transit system would change in a day, and still make it to work on time.

From a project management perspective, there is only so much you can ask a company to do...even Translink.