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Old 09-19-2013, 09:34 PM   #51
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^ Yeah, I kind of agree.

I'm not a true "women's lib" person as I have encountered very littlegender discrimination in my life (few workplace issues and here of all places), so I don't like to think of how the outcome of this case was effected by gender.....but for lack of another logical reason, maybe you are right.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:44 AM   #52
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:52 AM   #53
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It's just sad to see people lose their lives because someone else's mistake.

You make mistakes in life, you should face the consequences.
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It's just sad to see people lose their lives because someone else's mistake.

You make mistakes in life, you should face the consequences.
I half agree with that. I don't disagree with the general consensus that this woman should have been given more than basically a "don't do it again." If she was in an unfamiliar area and was distraught, she should have at the very minimum slowed down, if not simply stop and pull over to the side of the road until she was more composed.

However, killing someone with your car shouldn't be an automatic sentence in jail. Suppose you're puttering along at the speed limit, say 60km/hr, and someone suddenly jumps out in front of your car at the very last moment. Will the courts then be required to put you into jail and/or pay a heavy fine for something that 1) wasn't your fault, and, 2) unavoidable?
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I half agree with that. I don't disagree with the general consensus that this woman should have been given more than basically a "don't do it again." If she was in an unfamiliar area and was distraught, she should have at the very minimum slowed down, if not simply stop and pull over to the side of the road until she was more composed.

However, killing someone with your car shouldn't be an automatic sentence in jail. Suppose you're puttering along at the speed limit, say 60km/hr, and someone suddenly jumps out in front of your car at the very last moment. Will the courts then be required to put you into jail and/or pay a heavy fine for something that 1) wasn't your fault, and, 2) unavoidable?
I strongly disagree with your second statement. This was not the scenario in this case, first she was full of tears and emotionally distraught, second, she drove through that area before and was smart enough to make the lane change to dodge the cars that were stopped at the intersection for the red.

This was not about the couple being negligent and put themselves in danger, IT's about the acquitted's negligence that took away 2 innocent lives.

This whole tragedy was 100% avoidable.
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I strongly disagree with your second statement. This was not the scenario in this case, first she was full of tears and emotionally distraught, second, she drove through that area before and was smart enough to make the lane change to dodge the cars that were stopped at the intersection for the red.

This was not about the couple being negligent and put themselves in danger, IT's about the acquitted's negligence that took away 2 innocent lives.

This whole tragedy was 100% avoidable.
Like I posted, I don't disagree that this woman should have gotten a harsher sentence. However, a lot of what I've been reading online and in the papers is about how any motor vehicle incident where a death is involved should come with a minimum jail time sentence. That's what the second half of my post referred to. I was too rushed at the time to explain it properly
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Can you imagine how many people she endangered from Eagle Ridge Hospital to Pitt Meadows? It's not exactly close.

Also, to get an idea of how obscene the judge's comment was, imagine doing 120 on Kingsway, blowing through a red light and when you get pulled over and the cop asks you wtf you're doing, you say, "Sorry, officer. It's just a case of simple carelessness. Good thing no one died.".......and he says, "That sounds reasonable. Be more careful please. Bye."
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how is being emotionally and mentally distraught different from driving under the influence? both impair judgement, coordination, and motor skills.

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Can you imagine how many people she endangered from Eagle Ridge Hospital to Pitt Meadows? It's not exactly close.

Also, to get an idea of how obscene the judge's comment was, imagine doing 120 on Kingsway, blowing through a red light and when you get pulled over and the cop asks you wtf you're doing, you say, "Sorry, officer. It's just a case of simple carelessness. Good thing no one died.".......and he says, "That sounds reasonable. Be more careful please. Bye."
I completely agree. It's ok to do some excessive speeding, as long as you kill 2 people. And cry a little.
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Anybody else not buy the "distraught" angle?

Maybe someone else can say otherwise but in my general experience, when I'm distraught or depressed/having a bad day, I usually drive slower, as I'm usually un-energetic or kinda lethargic.

My aggressive driving usually comes out with emotions stemming from "urgency", anger or frustration.



I have my suspicions that the "distraught" story is nothing more than an excuse and whoever legally represented her sold it well.
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so does this set a dangerous precedent for future cases similar to this?
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did she lose her job? did her close co-worker die at work? being distraught is no excuse for this....
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If that's the case she should get fire from her job. Basically she is not fit to work if she can't handle a little stress.

I have stress everyday from work so am I allow to go around killing people and later say I was distracted and stress and get a free ticket?
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i'm distraught after hearing this verdict.. can i run her over and use her case as precedent?
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