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Old 10-01-2013, 07:06 PM   #126
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Lots of people siding with the range rover. I ride both machines and will always side with a motorcycle cause a 400lbs bike vs 4000lbs car is never a fair fight no matter whos right or wrong.

Technically the range rover is at fault. If you're being surrounded by a group of menace baiting you on...do NOT escalate the problem. Keep you cool. Think rationally and call the cops.
Instead he rears ends them (break check or not...you're at fault) and worse runs several people over.

The riders who retaliated with physical violence should also be charged. What Im getting at is...do not take the laws into your own hand. Let the cops and evidence make the judgement call.
I disagree with pretty much everything you said. Fight stopped being fair when there was 100+ on 1. If someone intentionally bswerves and brakes infront of you, no its not your fault..ICBC policy doesn't determine real life consequences. If you or your family is at danger then you have an absolute divine right to protect yourself and them, so yes..take the law into your own hands within reason.
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And somehow I get the feeling that if the driver was driving a mini-van (instead of a black Range Rover), he would've received a lot more sympathy...

I know when I saw the thread title (before watching the video), I thought it was one of those thuggish crazy RR driver trying to run down bikers in a fit of rage..
I can see that you typed something, but I can't keep my eyes off of your avatar...

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Old 10-01-2013, 07:16 PM   #128
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Lots of people siding with the range rover. I ride both machines and will always side with a motorcycle cause a 400lbs bike vs 4000lbs car is never a fair fight no matter whos right or wrong.

Technically the range rover is at fault. If you're being surrounded by a group of menace baiting you on...do NOT escalate the problem. Keep you cool. Think rationally and call the cops.
Instead he rears ends them (break check or not...you're at fault) and worse runs several people over.

The riders who retaliated with physical violence should also be charged. What Im getting at is...do not take the laws into your own hand. Let the cops and evidence make the judgement call.

Also disagree. If I'm the RR guy, my life's more important then yours is, and so's is my wife's and daughters.

IMO, he made the right move. At the end of the day, he's walking away from that..you can't exactly say the same for the others...
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:22 PM   #129
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Should've drove straight to police station while calling 911 in the process.

but what incident happened before this video? there was an accident and range rover sped off? I don't get what event triggered the bikers to box it in.
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Why would a guy on a bike EVER want to mess with a guy in a car, let alone a RR?

Like seriously. Did the guy on the bike really think he wouldnt get f*cked up one way or another?

I believe that if you have the intent to carry out a harmful act upon somebody, or somebody's possession, then anybody else can do the same thing to you if not worse.

I must admit that if i was in that same position, i would have done the exact same thing. GTFO! Go somewhere where help/witnesses are readily available.

On a side note, im surprised that the driver in the RR didnt turn on rage mode and side swipe any of the bikers. (Obviously then the driver would be in a lot of trouble. But i'd admit that that did cross my mind when initially watching that vid)
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Like many people on here, I agree that what the RR driver did in the circumstances was correct.

And wow at the mob mentality of those bikers. We've seen what mob mentality can do to people and its bad, just take a look what happened during the 2011 Stanley Cup Riots.
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Lots of people siding with the range rover. I ride both machines and will always side with a motorcycle cause a 400lbs bike vs 4000lbs car is never a fair fight no matter whos right or wrong.

Technically the range rover is at fault. If you're being surrounded by a group of menace baiting you on...do NOT escalate the problem. Keep you cool. Think rationally and call the cops.
Instead he rears ends them (break check or not...you're at fault) and worse runs several people over.

The riders who retaliated with physical violence should also be charged. What Im getting at is...do not take the laws into your own hand. Let the cops and evidence make the judgement call.

On a bike, if you ride like an idiot, be prepared to pay with your life.

This whole situation makes me wish I was white in America so I could blast the rest of these biker fools and get away with it.
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There's a facebook page setup to raise funds for this guy. The comments get pretty nasty. I have no idea why they are still open...
Definitely getting a lot of hate.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justi...11664345601619
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Do not take the law in to my own hands? If my wife and kid were involved in a situation like this and you try putting us in danger, you better be prepared for me to put you in the ground. What makes you think he or his wife did not call the police? Better question, what makes you think the police would have got there within good time to save them? Were these little pocket bikes chasing the RR? NO. So no matter what speed he was going at to try to evade the group they would have caught up, surrounded him and come to a complete stop to first argue and then beat the shit out of him only sooner than when he took the exit in to the city. "Oh shit 100+ bikers are about to kill us, here is the game plan dear!" Ain't nobody got time fo dat when you're about to shit your pants. You would need a really good plan to keep safe from a mob of angry bikers. Hell, even only a handful of angry bikers. The man did what almost any normal human being would have done in fear of his and his family's safety. Plow these crazy mother fuckers and bounce, what ever it takes ffs. GG to the ones that posted up in front of a big SUV while your buddies are harassing the family. Should've expected to get run over. Did they think he was going to stop at their command on the highway to talk about the situation, make up and go for some earl grey tea and crumpets? Thats what would have happened.. in a fuckn fairy tale. What ever happened prior to the video, like if he was making "mean gestures," who cares? Grow the fuck up and enjoy your damn cruise so your shit don't get banned or in trouble. Retard's, full Retards.
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not sure if its been noted but at least one of the bikers was arrested/charged saw it on CNN as i was leaving

and supposedly one of the bikers is paralyzed / in a induced coma (according to his mother)

also "many" of the bikers didn't have plates and some had suspended licenses

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1472419

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...tacking-driver

picture of the RR driver left on the ground


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the amount of idiocy on the facebook pages (both "Meezee's" and Alexien's) from people siding with the bikers is astronomically frightening to say the least. to think that eventually these people will procreate and raise more retards is a sad outlook for humanity.
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rofl. the media tries so hard.


quotting a comment that i couldn't agree more with:

"This family speaks volumes about the mentality of the shitheels riding those bikes that day. This assholes's brother and mother are actually defending the rider's actions? They act like they were out on a legal and harmless ride for charity or something. "They were on their annual ride out". A ride out? Is that what you call that? I could have swore I saw a bunch of assholes who took their plates off their bikes so they couldn't be identified while they went marauding around the city committing every moving violation in the book. Not to mention intimidating and terrifying every motorist they encountered.
These jackasses were weaving in and out of oncoming traffic, blowing through red lights, driving on the sidewalks and forcing other motorists off the road. And this woman wants justice? Are you fucking kidding me? Every single state in the US has a self defense statute in the books. I 100% guarantee that the driver of the Ranger Rover was convinced that his life and the life of his wife and child was in danger from the mob of deranged bikers. He won't be charged and shouldn't be charged. Why? because he was well within his right to defend himself and his family by making a hole through those bikers so he could escape.

Fuck this guys family. News flash to the mom. This isn't the road warrior and your son isn't Lord Humungus! They don't get to drive around town and do whatever the fuck they want. One last point. I've watched all the other footage of this "Annual ride out". All I can say is where the fuck were the cops? I couldn't believe I didn't see these clowns inadvertently role by a single cop on their rampage through town. Where are the fucking cops in NYC?"
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It certainly appeal to the public when the best photo of your son is in ghetto gangster clothes with a hand gesture to the camera. 0:19

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It's a tragic situation all around.

One thing that's still shocking to me is the lack of police presence and response when all of this was happening even though the NYPD knew these guys were trouble. And I read that the bikers even blocked of the entrances to the highway so they could have the highway to themselves to do "tricks" and even than there were no cops around.
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The total lack of police presence is indeed astonishing. There are some very interesting posts on that Facebook site though for sure! I like this one...

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Now I think about it, run flat tires especially in Bimmers will be put into great use in this case. He wouldn't have to get off the highway and could've continued to just ride along until the police catch up to them.
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