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radioman 10-16-2013 10:08 PM

:lol


TTZ 10-16-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by meme405 (Post 8340606)
As said above, what is the other products besides the book, and the system?

Here are four products licensees can promote. I could post all of them if you want but I think the mods might object to that.

My Email Marketing Empire

The OTP Formula

The Internet Revolution Handbook

Instant Info Product

Licensees make 90% commission on these products and 50% on any backend products the customer purchases.

You don't really need a buy license to promote MTTB. We have a regular affiliate program that's free to join. The commission for affiliates is 50% on the front end product but zero on the back. We do have people who start off as affiliates and work their way up to licensees.

Zoidberg 10-16-2013 10:20 PM

:lawl:

RFlush 10-16-2013 10:23 PM

So I guess without answering my question, that MTTB is the same as Lyoness and Amway in regards to business model structure?
Posted via RS Mobile

TTZ 10-16-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RFlush (Post 8340646)
So I guess without answering my question, that MTTB is the same as Lyoness and Amway in regards to business model structure?
Posted via RS Mobile

No, MTTB is not a MLM. It's an affiliate program, like the affiliate program you'll find on Amazon, Google, eBay, etc. It does offer a 5% royalty if you refer a new licensee but it doesn't go down any levels.

A MLM brings with it a whole different set of legal headaches to deal with. We stuck with the affiliate model because it's just a lot easier to set up.

TTZ 10-16-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by radioman (Post 8340633)

Oh man! You beat me to posting that! I was going to save it to use as a reply to a hater. :devil:

radioman 10-16-2013 10:40 PM

Hey Mr Chow.
Not trying to be a hater but I must say I couldn't imagine listening to you speak for a long period. You seem pretty bland/dry and flat. Just one mans opinions but obviously if you host seminars/events you must have great material to compensate.

RFlush 10-16-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TTZ (Post 8340654)
No, MTTB is not a MLM. It's an affiliate program, like the affiliate program you'll find on Amazon, Google, eBay, etc. It does offer a 5% royalty if you refer a new licensee but it doesn't go down any levels.

A MLM brings with it a whole different set of legal headaches to deal with. We stuck with the affiliate model because it's just a lot easier to set up.

Funny you accuse Lyoness to be a MLM because Lyoness claims they are not a MLM. They actually operate like your business model with affiliates. So what makes their system a MLM and not yours?

TTZ 10-16-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RFlush (Post 8340663)
Funny you accuse Lyoness to be a MLM because Lyoness claims they are not a MLM. They actually operate like your business model with affiliates. So what makes their system a MLM and not yours?

I don't know what Lyoness is but you mention them along with Amway so I assumed it was a MLM. My mistake.

Lomac 10-16-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TTZ (Post 8340657)
Oh man! You beat me to posting that! I was going to save it to use as a reply to a hater. :devil:

Any publicity is good publicity, basically. RS tends to go through similar waves every once in a while, typically involving one or another of the local domestic muscle car forums. :lol

meme405 10-16-2013 11:32 PM

Meh, if anyone was stupid enough to give you money after reading this thread they deserve to get taken for a ride...

You're right we are hating on you and the truth is its because some of us don't like others praying on the stupid and weak minded, this is a very small percentage of the people posting. The vast majority of the people posting here are just jealous that they aren't making the same money sitting on their asses like you.

I personally mid thread have switched to not giving a fuck, initially I cared about the retards and dumbasses who were losing their money to you, but now I realize that w/e, the only thing I can do is make sure to tell those around myself and those I care about to not fall for this non-sense.

I look forward to the day this pyramid scheme falls apart and there comes some sort of huge litigation. For the record some MLM's can be legal, and some are illegal. This may very well be legal but none of them are ethical because these plans don't involve a product, you don't get anything for your money, besides the promise of maybe making more money in the future (and before you compare this to going to university, fuck off); therefore they are not ethical because everyone who gets in, especially those who start and organize it, recognize that all the people who are left at the bottom when this shit becomes un-sustainable are going to be out a bunch of money...

Energy 10-16-2013 11:34 PM

He says that we are so predictable, easy to manipulate, and will keep the thread going. Maybe a mod can lock this thread and let it die? Prove him wrong.

SkinnyPupp 10-16-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Energy (Post 8340703)
He says that we are so predictable, easy to manipulate, and will keep the thread going. Maybe a mod can lock this thread and let it die? Prove him wrong.

How would that prove him wrong? :seriously:

Leaving it open and letting it die by itself in a day would prove something.

TTZ 10-17-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by meme405 (Post 8340702)
You're right we are hating on you and the truth is its because some of us don't like others praying on the stupid and weak minded.

The vast majority of the people posting here are just jealous that they aren't making the same money sitting on their asses like you.

I cared about the retards and dumbasses who were losing their money to you.

What a nice way to refer to your fellow RS members. Calling them retards, dumb asses, stupid and weak minded.

I don't think of them like that at all. As I explained my video. They have their own brain and can come to their own conclusion, which has been helped a lot by you. So thank you. :)

meme405 10-17-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TTZ (Post 8340714)
What a nice way to refer to your fellow RS members. Calling them retards, dumb asses, stupid and weak minded.

I don't think of them like that at all. As I explained my video. They have their own brain and can come to their own conclusion, which has been helped a lot by you. So thank you. :)

If they give you a penny, they are retarded and feeble minded.

parm104 10-17-2013 12:10 AM

This is still happening? I think everyone in this thread has officially "lost." lol

Oh TTZ, how you gonna make a video and not give a shout-out. Unbelievable...thanks for NOTHING!

Ikkaku 10-17-2013 01:03 AM

Oh, and one thing to note.

It's preying, not praying.

Manic! 10-17-2013 01:45 AM

So John you like taking money from old people? Is she one of your bitches?


SkinnyPupp 10-17-2013 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8340727)
So John you like taking money from old people? Is she one of your bitches?

maderline - YouTube

Is there a point you're trying to make?

Manic! 10-17-2013 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8340729)
Is there a point you're trying to make?

Ya do you really think she is going to make money doing on-line marketing? She already claims to have tried other e books and on-line courses. How would you feel if that was your Grandma in the video? Would you be happy?

StylinRed 10-17-2013 02:24 AM

ouch i guess this thread really got to him and got him worried that his saps would be second guessing themselves so he had to make a video pretending to go :fuckthatshit:

I'm assuming he's your hero and good friend
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/97/80...23_500X500.jpg

SkinnyPupp 10-17-2013 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8340731)
Ya do you really think she is going to make money doing on-line marketing? She already claims to have tried other e books and on-line courses. How would you feel if that was your Grandma in the video? Would you be happy?

I don't care. It's not like she is being scammed by some Nigerian scammer or a dude who says he'll give you 50% of a check if you deposit it and pull the cash right away. She is buying shit, and can do whatever she wants with it.

I still don't get what age has to do with anything?

RFlush 10-17-2013 03:43 AM

Skinny I don't know why you are defending this so much and not being as critical as you normally would.

This MTTB is similar to Lyoness and in this tread http://www.revscene.net/forums/67621...m-yay-nay.html you are the second person and call out the OP's dad for being a fool to follow a pyramid scheme. The business model to Lyoness is similar to MTTB, so you are essentially saying anyone who follows MTTB is a fool.

SkinnyPupp 10-17-2013 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RFlush (Post 8340739)
Skinny I don't know why you are defending this so much and not being as critical as you normally would.

This MTTB is similar to Lyoness and in this tread http://www.revscene.net/forums/67621...m-yay-nay.html you are the second person and call out the OP's dad for being a fool to follow a pyramid scheme. The business model to Lyoness is similar to MTTB, so you are essentially saying anyone who follows MTTB is a fool.

I'm not defending really, I am just pointing out dumb comments. Like the guy who said we should close the thread to prove john wrong that people will keep coming back and replying... Or the guy who posted a video of john talking to an old lady, as if that meant anything whatsoever...

I don't know a LOT about MTTB or Lyoness, but what I do know, they aren't alike. Not even a little bit. So if you're going to say they are alike, you are going to have to back up that claim.

You'll have to carry that dialog with john though, because I don't care.

And BTW if I thought MTTB was a MLM scam or a pyramid scam, I wouldn't be on john's side whatsoever. But if that was the case, he wouldn't have a leg to stand on in his argument.

So here's your chance to shut him up for good, since you know his product is a pyramid scam.

multicartual 10-17-2013 06:24 AM

Is he really wearing an "I'm John Chow Bitch" t-shirt?


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