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ZN6 10-18-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8342007)
If you are going to sue me i want a list of every person that was at that conference and all your financial records. I have a family member who is an very good accountant.

:facepalm:"HEY HAND OVER THE GUN THAT I THINK YOU USED TO SHOOT THE VICTIM! MY UNCLE IS A FORENSICS EXPERT AND CAN PROVE YOU DID IT ONLY IF HE HAD THAT GUN YOU MAY HAVE USED"

You serious?

Manic! 10-18-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8342012)
I'm sure your uncle will be very interested in helping you win an argument on the internet by auditing a bunch of millionaires :lawl:

You flat out stated your reason for slander. You said "I don't think he made that money". All John has to do is prove he made that money.

Then prove it. I also called him a scam artist.

TTZ 10-18-2013 05:29 PM

The contest results page showing I won $25K, plus the $25 in my bank account should do it.

The great thing about slander is he can be right on 9 out of 10 claims, but I win one of them, I win the entire case.

He called me a scammer. That's slander right there. He would need to prove in court that I'm a scammer. He can't even do that on RS. Good luck in court! LOL

MindBomber 10-18-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TTZ (Post 8341991)
You better be REAL CAREFUL what you post moving forward. I NEVER claimed or said the cash in the photo was real. I said I won $25,000 cash, which is 100% true. I've downloaded the photo you created and depending on how you behave, I will decide if I should have my lawyer give you a call.

I never sued a hater before. Might be a fun experiment.

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Originally Posted by TTZ (Post 8341997)
I guess I could add meme405 to the list as well for that statement about me faking the CBC documentary. That would be an easy case to win.

The photo presents the suggestions the "currency" is currency. Manic!'s observation that it is "currency" is astute and creates fair questions.

The CBC Documentary presents poor production qualities. Meme45 has demonstrated commendable due diligence by contacting CBC directly to confirm its authenticity given those qualities.

John, you are choosing to not only engage Manic! and Meme45, but to encourage them to question you. You even encourage your viewers to respond similarly to those like Manic! and Meme45. To then fault Manic! and Meme45 is unfair, and analagous to blaming a lion you taunted for attacking.

Rather than threatening Manic! and Meme45 with lawsuits to essentially end the discussion, the mature approach would be to simply walk away.

In my humble opinion, this thread has run its course and it should be shut down. There has been nothing but petty bickering for pages.

meme405 10-18-2013 05:39 PM

Go ahead try to sue me. I contacted the company you claimed responsible for conducting the documentary they claimed they knew nothing about it. I came here and posted it. It's not my fault they didn't remember. I assumed CBC wouldn't email out wrong information. For the record the only reason I contacted them was because I couldn't find anything on their site.

Like I said go ahead sue me, I stand behind my earlier statements, I believe you are scamming people, I believe the way you make your money is unethical, I believe you mis-represent your product, and I believe you are a liar.

Oh and I have contacted Linda Steele (the on your side girl), I hope she can do a segment on your ethical approach to business.

I do not feel like doing the fact checking necessary to write a cohesive argument here. But I know what you are running is just a complex MLM and w/e I write you only take the small portion you feel like responding too. So this is pointless.

Again so more people see the message, DO NOT GIVE JOHN CHOW A PENNY, YOU WILL LOSE MONEY. ITS NOT WORTH IT.

TTZ 10-18-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 8342034)
The photo presents the suggestions the "currency" is currency. Manic!'s observation that it is "currency" is astute and creates fair questions.

The CBC Documentary presents poor production qualities. Meme45 has demonstrated commendable due diligence by contacting CBC directly to confirm its authenticity given those qualities.

John, you are choosing to not only engage Manic! and Meme45, but to encourage them to question you. You even encourage your viewers to respond similarly to those like Manic! and Meme45. To then fault Manic! and Meme45 is unfair, and analagous to blaming a lion you taunted for attacking.

Rather than threatening Manic! and Meme45 with lawsuits to essentially end the discussion, the mature approach would be to simply walk away.

In my humble opinion, this thread has run its course and it should be shut down. There has been nothing but petty bickering for pages.

You know what? You are absolutely right! I had my fun and I think it's time to end it.

Manic, meme405. You two have been great. The next time I'm up in Vancouver, let's go for drinks. I'll buy. I know you two are not like this in real life (at least I hope not), and I'm sure if you get to know me, you'll see that I'm not really a bad guy either.

Piece out!

Alby 10-18-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 8342034)
The photo presents the suggestions the "currency" is currency. Manic!'s observation that it is "currency" is astute and creates fair questions.

The CBC Documentary presents poor production qualities. Meme45 has demonstrated commendable due diligence by contacting CBC directly to confirm its authenticity given those qualities.

John, you are choosing to not only engage Manic! and Meme45, but to encourage them to question you. You even encourage your viewers to respond similarly to those like Manic! and Meme45. To then fault Manic! and Meme45 is unfair, and analagous to blaming a lion you taunted for attacking.

Rather than threatening Manic! and Meme45 with lawsuits to essentially end the discussion, the mature approach would be to simply walk away.

In my humble opinion, this thread has run its course and it should be shut down. There has been nothing but petty bickering for pages.

totally agreed here. but why would john walk away? by all means, he will try and get people to keep this thread going, regardless if its useless posts or questions. its making him money!

this thread is only gonna die if people stop egging both sides to continue or lock the thread

TTZ 10-18-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alby (Post 8342050)
totally agreed here. but why would john walk away? by all means, he will try and get people to keep this thread going, regardless if its useless posts or questions. its making him money!

this thread is only gonna die if people stop egging both sides to continue or lock the thread

Yes, this thread is making me money, but it's not enough to justify my time. I've been doing it because it was fun. From a financial standpoint, I can send out an email blast, which takes a few min, and pull in 50X what I would make off this thread.

But if the haters wish to keep this thread going, that's up to them. I got my message out, so I won't be posting to it anymore.

dinosaur 10-18-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by meme405 (Post 8342037)
Go ahead try to sue me. I contacted the company you claimed responsible for conducting the documentary they claimed they knew nothing about it. I came here and posted it. It's not my fault they didn't remember. I assumed CBC wouldn't email out wrong information. For the record the only reason I contacted them was because I couldn't find anything on their site.

Like I said go ahead sue me, I stand behind my earlier statements, I believe you are scamming people, I believe the way you make your money is unethical, I believe you mis-represent your product, and I believe you are a liar.

Oh and I have contacted Linda Steele (the on your side girl), I hope she can do a segment on your ethical approach to business.

I do not feel like doing the fact checking necessary to write a cohesive argument here. But I know what you are running is just a complex MLM and w/e I write you only take the small portion you feel like responding too. So this is pointless.

Again so more people see the message, DO NOT GIVE JOHN CHOW A PENNY, YOU WILL LOSE MONEY. ITS NOT WORTH IT.

Ya know dude, you have put a lot of effort into this and I can tell you, you are not going to get what you want.

I may think this whole thing is kinda bullshitty...a little scamy....and a whole lot of fishy....but, it doesn't matter and truthfully, I don't care that much. This shit doesn't effect me. If this John guy has made millions, cool. It has no relevance in my life....and it should have any relevance in yours.

I have been involved in my fair share of threads that spin down into fightclub-esque banter. I get it...It ain't fucking worth it. Just (metaphorically) walk away.

meme405 10-18-2013 06:22 PM

TTZ reached out to me, and I can respect. Should have never escalated to a personal standpoint, so I apologize for that.

TTZ has stated that if Linda Steele would like to do a segment he is up for it, so if that opportunity arises I will pass on her information.

I still do feel that if it takes this much effort to explain what you do for a living and how you make money that something is wrong, and I do not want anyone to think that this post constitutes me thinking I am wrong. I still do not believe anyone should give their money to John Chow, or anyone else for that matter, without doing research for themselves. Information is power. Also keep in mind that if it seems too good to be true it probably is.

I am no longer entering this thread, me and TTZ have both walked away.

StylinRed 10-18-2013 06:29 PM

good luck trying to sue them for defamation when you're in a picture holding play money saying you won real money :rolleyes:

good luck trying to sue for defamation when meme45 is relating information from cbc that you lied about a cbc documentary (rather than something supposedly aired on cbc)


why isnt this thread in fight club? or closed?

SkinnyPupp 10-18-2013 06:47 PM

Wow, just when I thought everyone was done with making themselves look bad... :rukidding:
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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8342083)
good luck trying to sue them for defamation when you're in a picture holding play money saying you won real money :rolleyes:

The issue isn't that the money is real or not, it's that the person said he was claiming it was real when it wasn't (that claim was never made) and that he was claiming to have won the money when he didn't (he did win the money). On top of all that, he made this huge defamatory picture meant to be taken out of context.

Basically Manic was willing to submit himself to a loss in court in order to win an internet argument that he was never going to win.
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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8342083)
good luck trying to sue for defamation when meme45 is relating information from cbc that you lied about a cbc documentary (rather than something supposedly aired on cbc)

First of all, nobody claimed there could be a suit against meme 45.

Secondly it didn't "supposedly" air on CBC, it did air on CBC. People in this very thread were there when it was filmed, and saw themselves on CBC. He emailed some random person at CBC that for some reason didn't know it aired. In return, john posted a link to the video on CBC's website.

Brianrietta 10-18-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8342092)
Wow, just when I thought everyone was done with making themselves look bad... :rukidding:

First of all, nobody claimed there could be a suit against meme 45.


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Originally Posted by TTZ (Post 8341997)
I guess I could add meme405 to the list as well for that statement about me faking the CBC documentary. That would be an easy case to win.

:badpokerface:


My only post in this thread will simply be that if this were any other thread I feel like it would have been locked and closed and moved off to adminland a long time ago. It appears that the main bitchfit is over and I don't see anything other than further discord to be gained by keeping this thread open.

Ronin 10-18-2013 06:59 PM

Yeah, I mean...I think I would know about the CBC documentary.

Being in it and all.

Manic! 10-18-2013 07:45 PM

I was going to stop posting but I can't. And we all know why this thread is still open. Should have been closed by te second page like all other threads of this nature. I still remember an RS member getting in shit because he bought a pair of rims of an RS member then tried to flip them again on RS.



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subordinate 10-18-2013 07:53 PM

The mods should have issued temp bans or points in the beginning when this was all getting out of hand.

Not sure why it isn't.

Razor Ramon HG 10-18-2013 07:57 PM

This thread is just sad.
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StylinRed 10-18-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8342092)
Wow, just when I thought everyone was done with making themselves look bad... :rukidding:

oh i totally agree with that ^^^^ (by this thread being left open)

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The issue isn't that the money is real or not, it's that the person said he was claiming it was real when it wasn't (that claim was never made) and that he was claiming to have won the money when he didn't (he did win the money). On top of all that, he made this huge defamatory picture meant to be taken out of context.
he has a picture with fake money, he said or didnt say that he won that money (manic has a link to a page which says he did but ttz then claims its not his webpage) my point stands good luck trying to sue over such circumstances

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First of all, nobody claimed there could be a suit against meme 45.
Brianrietta answered that for me

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Secondly it didn't "supposedly" air on CBC, it did air on CBC.
would be hard pressed to have me use a word other than supposed (assumed as true) since i didn't know otherwise.

dinosaur 10-18-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by subordinate (Post 8342129)
The mods should have issued temp bans or points in the beginning when this was all getting out of hand.

Not sure why it isn't.

Why?

No rules have been broken....people may not agree with opinions stated by either side, but issuing bans and points for having those opinions would be fucking pathetic.

Acura604 10-18-2013 08:16 PM

^^^ this ^^^

Think go it as one big debate although the personal attacks weren't necessary.

And...maybe just maybe some poor jackass does an extensive search on the MTTB and finds this thread and decides against joining! We would have saved some poor soul a whole lot of misery.

Anyways...the original post by me presented some questions and they have been answered. Thanks to all.

SkinnyPupp 10-18-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8342144)
Brianrietta answered that for me

Brianrietta confused TTZ's joke about meme45 with my post about Manic

As for this thread, we can keep it open but we'll ban the trolls from posting in it. Let's start with the guy who said, presumably not in a sarcastic way, "I was going to stop posting but I can't."

Well now you can :troll:

CharlesInCharge 10-18-2013 11:12 PM

Have cliff notes of this thread been posted already? :concentrate:

RDot604 10-18-2013 11:18 PM

Well, that escalated quickly....

NKC ONE 10-18-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8342239)
Have cliff notes of this thread been posted already? :concentrate:

Something about Zionist making dough.

"We all know that cash rules everything around us: cash, green, get the money, dollar dollar bill ya'll."

Brianrietta 10-19-2013 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8342210)
Brianrietta confused TTZ's joke about meme45 with my post about Manic

As for this thread, we can keep it open but we'll ban the trolls from posting in it. Let's start with the guy who said, presumably not in a sarcastic way, "I was going to stop posting but I can't."

Well now you can :troll:

Spoiler!


No, there was no confusion. Your post was obviously half about Manic! and half about meme405. You said that nobody had claimed there could be a suit and I posted where (regardless of the potentially humorous intent) TTZ said that he could and it would be an easy case to win. Now it's possible that the lighthearted hilarious world of defamation lawsuits simply eludes me but I tend to think it more likely that in the hundreds of posts in this thread you just missed that post and upon seeing my Bad Poker Face you pulled a classic SkinnyPupp. While you literally could not be more wrong, you still decided that you needed to fail my post and insist that I must have been confused. I anxiously await part two of the classic SP where you'll add that all of this was meant in jest and I shouldn't have taken it seriously.

All that said, I respect the hell out of you for all the pot stirring you've done here to keep this thread going and drive traffic to John's site and RS (I assume that this clusterfuck of a thread has caused a measurable increase in unique visitors?) You're doing a heck of a job, I mean, I said I was only going to post in this thread once.

:badpokerface:


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