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im proud as fuck of canada and our government. we have a reasonable, moderate government that takes a pragmatic,academic view of most issues and its reflected in our society and culture. one crack smoker ain't gonna change that.
on the other hand, you have a government that constantly wages pointless wars, spys on its own citizens and continues to erode its own civil liberties while having a joke of a healthcare system.
who cares what other countries think? canada fuck yeah
I already mentioned that it shouldn't matter and that every country has its own problems...there's no point in making an argument here because you guys keep side-tracking.
The issue wasn't whether it mattered or whether we care but rather whether anyone else was even concerned with our politics. I simply provided insight that well yes, people from other countries.
Not everyone is going to think and feel the same way as you guys and vice versa. It's not to say one side is wrong or right. But there is no point in going back and forth saying "it matters" or "it doesn't matter." As voters, as citizens, we all have the right to decide what matters to us in the political scene and what issues make and break our support.
Rob Ford is done. He's a lame duck mayor with no power has had is TV show canceled and even if he gets re elected will get no support from the other city councilors.
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Reportedly, viewership to his TV show was sky high (as expected). However, the official reason for the cancellation was because Ford was too inexperienced with TV production and the recording took way too long (and therefore too expensive) to continue. Reportedly, he and Doug needed 6 hrs to record the 1 hrs show.
What happened to the senators who were found to be claiming false expense reports?
Suspended with out pay for 2 years I believe.
Rob Fords show got 150000 views the biggest for Sun TV. Nut thats not that big compared to other shows and Sun TV is only in 2 out of 5 Canadian households. Sun also was not paying Rob anything. The TV channel is pretty much broke.
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Van Mayor urges Ford to step away
by The Canadian Press - Story: 103124
Nov 20, 2013 / 7:53 pm
Photo: Contributed
Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson is advising embattled Toronto Mayor Rob Ford to step out of the media glare.
Robertson said it would be best if Ford gets out of the limelight, when he was asked for his opinion by reporters during an unrelated media conference on Wednesday,
Robertson said it is up to the Ontario government now to take any action to empower Toronto's city council to deal with the spectacle created by Ford.
Ford, who admitted to smoking crack cocaine after months of denying it, was stripped of most of his mayoral powers earlier this week by his fellow councillors.
Robertson said it's unlikely a similar situation would occur on the West Coast, and the drama surrounding Ford has not distracted the Federation of Canadian Municipalities’ Big City Mayors’ Caucus from its advocacy work.
Still, Robertson advises his Toronto counterpart to "do the right thing."
"I think the sooner that the issue is resolved, and Mr. Ford steps out of the limelight, the better for Toronto and the better for Canadian cities," Robertson says.
"It's been a really difficult chapter and I think Mayor Ford needs to do the right thing. He's getting a lot of signals to that effect, and I think that will serve his city and our country."
unconfimred reports Toronto is now looking into turning the 401 completely into a bike lane
^^ Bike boy is speaking like a true politician here by purposely being vague.
Notice how he only used the terms "do the right thing" and (more importantly) "step out of the limelight". These are very ambiguous phrases, leaving the public free to interpret it however they want. "Stepping out of the limelight" could mean anything from full on resignation to simply keeping his (Mr. Ford's, that is) mouth shut and stay away from the media. "Doing the right thing" is even more ambigious.
Instead of turning the 401 into a full 8 lanes bike lane, I think a certain local politician is looking to replace all roadways across Canada into bike lanes -- I bet he is vying for the top federal job!
And this is why people are sick of politicians and love Ford.
I once read a saying that goes something along the lines of "lies are the grease that lubricates society's gears", and the saying really couldn't be more true. The fact of the matter is, lies, courtesy, and manners are often only separated by a very thin line. If everyone speaks 100% of their true emotions all the time, an overwhelming majority of stuff we say will consist of people fxxking and cursing each other. Nobody would get along, and society wouldn't be able to get anything done.
So my dear friend, would you rather to have me keep up with my manners when I am discussing things with you? Or would you rather continue to fxxking act like the fxxking hypocrite that you are and pretend that you are fxxking holier than thou when you are every bit just as fxxking filthy as everybody else?
Obviously everyone speaking the blunt truth would be better in the long run, but I'd rather a bald-faced lie than a smarmy, pandering "do you really expect me to believe this bullshit?" half-truth. The latter are what politicians specialize in, and I think is a big part of why people are sick of the whole political system and why voter turnout is so low.
Ford's "I never did it... okay yeah, I did it, so fucking what" is far more palatable than the constant dancing, side-stepping, "trust me, I know what's best for you" pap we usually get.
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Ford's "I never did it... okay yeah, I did it, so fucking what" is far more palatable than the constant dancing, side-stepping, "trust me, I know what's best for you" pap we usually get.
For myself (and probably a lot of other people), the initial and repeated denial, followed by the inevitable acknowledgement caused a lot of damage. It would have been far better had Ford just declined to comment all along until the undeniable proof came out. At least he could claim he has never lied.
For many, that blatant breach of trust is unacceptable.
“The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place... and I don´t care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently, if you let it. You, me or nobody, is gonna hit as hard as life. But ain't about how hard you hit... It's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward... how much you can take, and keep moving forward. That´s how winning is done. Now, if you know what you worth, go out and get what you worth.” - Rocky Balboa
The problem with Doug Ford is, he is nowhere nearly as charismatic (really, I hesitate to use that word on Rob Ford, but he is very good at drawing people's attention of all kinds), and I just don't see how he would have a chance to win the mayoral race.