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Old 12-16-2020, 09:41 PM   #151
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16hrs in, this game is pretty shweet, lovin the tech sniper rifles and cruisin in hypercars to scremo-trance music enjoying the city visuals

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Is it worth it to turn on ray tracing if you're only planning to play on 1080p? Or even DLSS for that matter?
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Is it worth it to turn on ray tracing if you're only planning to play on 1080p? Or even DLSS for that matter?
I wouldn't touch this game without ray tracing lol

as for DLSS, depends on what you care about more, visual quality, or frame rate. I don't think many cards can pull off even 1080p full quality without DLSS though, so it's kind of necessary. Make sure to use quality mode if you do.
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I wouldn't touch this game without ray tracing lol

as for DLSS, depends on what you care about more, visual quality, or frame rate. I don't think many cards can pull off even 1080p full quality without DLSS though, so it's kind of necessary. Make sure to use quality mode if you do.
Yup I have it on quality mode right now for DLSS.

Just not sure if ray tracing is worth the massive drop in FPS
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Without Ray Tracing this looks like a 2018 game

But if the drop is really bad, I understand. Maybe set it to medium and disable RT shadows
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CD Projekt Red announces sweeping 'Cyberpunk 2077' refund plan

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The fallout from Cyberpunk 2077’s buggy release continues. Developer CD Projekt Red says its intention is to offer a refund to everyone who purchased a physical copy of the game or a digital one at retail, even if it means paying for the expense out of its own pocket.

If the retailer you bought the game at won’t give you a refund, the company asks that you email it at helpmerefund@cdprojektred.com with valid proof of purchase. You have until December 21st to contact the company about getting your money back. If you’ve already emailed CD Projekt Red about a refund and haven’t heard back yet, the studio says not to worry. It notes it’s sending out confirmation notices in waves. It will send out an email detailing next steps once the refund window closes on December 21st.
The part about "even if it means paying for the expense out of its own pocket" is ridiculous. That's the whole point of trying to scam consumers with a game that's half done.
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My copy was a gift but I don't think I'd refund it anyway. I'll probably stop playing it though, because I think it's going to be quite a bit better when it's actually finished.

Right now as far as the actual game, there are some really good parts, and really bad parts. And of course it looks great. Mostly it just seems unfinished though, IMO.
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My copy was a gift but I don't think I'd refund it anyway. I'll probably stop playing it though, because I think it's going to be quite a bit better when it's actually finished.

Right now as far as the actual game, there are some really good parts, and really bad parts. And of course it looks great. Mostly it just seems unfinished though, IMO.
I'm in the same boat as you. I'm running it on an RX 5600XT and it looks great so far (obviously not as nice as some of your guy's rigs) so it has that going for it. Probably going to pick up AC Valhalla and play that while this game gets put on the backburner until it gets fixed. The overall main story is pretty good so far, but there's a lot left for them to patch/add.
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XBOX always had a good refund policy - 100% refund if you play less than 2 hours. This is why they didn't need to pull from their store.. But in this case they're extending it to give refunds to anyone who asks.
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I'm curious what on earth they were thinking here. Did they think people wouldn't notice or something?
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:04 PM   #165
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i think when game development hits 5 year mark they have to just consider releasing it otherwise they lose focus and increase feature creep
look at final fantasy xv that took 10 years
that shit would never fly in a western studio
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They had "Gamers(tm)" on their side in full force, and thought nothing would flip on them. Look at the reactions ot the early reviews.. People went INSANE when there were bad reviews, issuing death threats to reviewers, etc.

CDPR had been harboring this kind of cultish fandom the whole time. It's how they got away with other crap like being gross about gender identities, etc

The bankers got greedy and pushed an unfinished game. The last delay was a scramble to get the current gen systems working, but they failed. They tried everything they could to obscure that fact, but it totally backfired on them.

You can tell who the real game reviewers are that are worth paying attention, based on the experiences they shared before and after release. Sites like Giant Bomb said from day 1 that the game was a buggy mess on PC, and while they couldn't share anything about the console versions since they didn't have them, the writing was on the wall. Other reviewers went full hype mode, giving nothing but glowing reviews, mentioning the bugs in passing or ignoring them.

A lot of egg on a lot of faces. Hopefully it'll only be the bankers that get fucked by all this, and not the devs themselves as much. They got greedy, took the opportunity to release an unfinished game before christmas, and it bit them in the ass.
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I just don't understand how publishers keep making the same damn mistake though?

We just saw how Anthem, Fallout 76, No Man's Sky, etc, all played out by rushing the title through.

Why couldn't they just delay this one until next year, and release it as a true next-gen title on the new consoles and PC only?

How many times do publishers need to rush a game out unfinished, only to end up having to offer refunds, and effectively kill the game's reputation long-term? CDPR will definitely fix this game, but the damage is already done. I think that damage would've been far less had this game been simply delayed once again until Q1/Q2 2021.

These idiot executives never learn.
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Because they wouldn't be able to buy that yacht this christmas.. Who wants to buy a yacht in 2021?
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So my parents computer’s OS partition ate shit and I couldn’t repair by the typical way in removing defective drivers etc. So I’ve got it at my house with a clean install on a freshly formatted SSD.. their computer is relatively new:

I5 - 6600 @ 3.30ghz
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And a GTX 1070

Basically I’ll have to install the game tonight and return the computer by New Years or so, if I want to play this game is it worth it to play it on this computer as the game currently sits?

Otherwise I’m waiting till I buy a console and that has no timeline lol
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maybe i'll just wait for a 3080 Ti
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So my parents computer’s OS partition ate shit and I couldn’t repair by the typical way in removing defective drivers etc. So I’ve got it at my house with a clean install on a freshly formatted SSD.. their computer is relatively new:

I5 - 6600 @ 3.30ghz
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And a GTX 1070

Basically I’ll have to install the game tonight and return the computer by New Years or so, if I want to play this game is it worth it to play it on this computer as the game currently sits?

Otherwise I’m waiting till I buy a console and that has no timeline lol
Right now there are very good things about the game

-The atmosphere is amazing. City looks cool and is varied
-Characters all look crazy and everyone you run across in missions is interesting. Your "friends" are all actually interesting and well written mostly. Random people are interesting to look at (but you'll see some repeats)
-Of course this is made better with ray tracing
-The story so far I think is good. Keanu is fucking great, and he's in here a lot

But that's where the undercooked part of the game comes in. Combat is dull, especially with buggy enemies who often just forget about you and stand there. The way the 2 methods of play combine (stealth and combat) isn't really cohesive.

The crafting system is dull, the interface is bad for it. Inventory, weapon management, etc, is all bad UI. Especially as someone learning to design UI, it's extra noticeable

The city looks amazing but it's shallow. There's nothing to do but look at it. It doesn't feel lived in like a GTA or RDR. Everyone in the city is just a very obvious simple script.

That's about it for me. The potential is there for a great game. Maybe not one that lives up to the 8 years of hype, but a great game. Right now it's an okay game. If you play it now, you'd probably know if you want to play a better version of it later. I know I do.
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Hmm thanks good points

Turns out he got the game for Xmas from our secret Santa exchange so I don’t really want to buy the game twice. Looks like I’m waiting
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So my parents computer’s OS partition ate shit and I couldn’t repair by the typical way in removing defective drivers etc. So I’ve got it at my house with a clean install on a freshly formatted SSD.. their computer is relatively new:

I5 - 6600 @ 3.30ghz
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And a GTX 1070

Basically I’ll have to install the game tonight and return the computer by New Years or so, if I want to play this game is it worth it to play it on this computer as the game currently sits?

Otherwise I’m waiting till I buy a console and that has no timeline lol
I have a similar setup: i7 6700K @ 4.2 GHz, 32 GB DDR4, GTX 1070

Obviously no ray tracing or DLSS on the GTX 1070.

On Medium settings at 1440p, most areas are in the mid-to-high 30 fps range with the occasional dip into the mid-20s in higher density areas.

The 6700K doesn't even come close to 100% (usually 50-60%) while the GTX 1070 is at 99+%. RAM generally hovers around 10 GB of usage.

For a consistent 60 fps, that's Low settings at 1080p. It looks a lot worse, IMO.

The good news is that most settings can be switched on the fly (without reloading the game), so if you know you're getting into a situation where you'll want a higher framerate, you can turn down those settings.
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Update for 1.05

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Texture Quality High, Field of View 100

1440p Ultra: Average 24 fps, Low 19 fps
1440p High: Average 27 fps, Low 21 fps
1440p Medium: Average 35 fps, Low 26 fps
1440p Low: Average 43 fps, Low 29 fps

1080p Ultra: Average 36 fps, Low 30 fps
1080p High: Average 41 fps, Low 31 fps
1080p Medium: Average 48 fps, Low 33 fps
1080p Low: Average 56 fps, Low 31 fps

1080p Low, TQ Low, FoV 70: 58 fps, Low 47 fps

With the lower texture quality and field of view on 1080p low, 1070 only runs at about 80% and it becomes CPU limited (and is blurry af).
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damn all this talk is making me want to get the game... all my friends have it..

I think I will be doing the game a dishonor as my PC specs sucks

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