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Old 11-13-2013, 08:23 PM   #26
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Im trying to understand where belka's logic comes from... maybe he thinks we should start an apartheid system with the first nations... just like the isreal he support.
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Shut the fuck up. Out of all people in Canada the Aboriginals have it the easiest, there are a shit ton of programs, incentives and breaks that your average, white, black, immigrant etc, Canadian would only dream of. It makes me sick when I see them whining for more fucking handouts. Why is a native entitled to free things because they were born native, while people, not even born in this country in some cases, fight and die for Canada get comparatively nothing? I have zero time, patience and sympathy for the lazy Aboriginal who would rather protest and complain than use all those breaks, paid by the taxes of Canadians, to build themselves a modest life. They really are starting to wear out their welcome and try people's patience.
Your ignorance will keep fueling your anger and hatred. Get educated on Canadian First Nations.

Wear out there welcome!? LOL!!!! How do you wear out your welcome in your own country?
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What is this guy's cause?

And what do those flags represent? They were being perceived as negative and unlawful in the video.
The vice article explains a little bit about why he was there and what the flag represents.

He's a veteran served for Canada in Bosnia
The flag he's carrying is an Iroquois flag and they were part of the Allies during WWI & II

It's noted in the article that a First Nations representative had in the past been invited to the Remembrance Day ceremonies to represent 1st nations veterans and 1st nations participation in past wars but the city had stopped inviting a representative about 5 years ago.

However the flags in question have also been used in recent and past native confrontations with the police so I guess the police who detained him and his friends had assumed something was going to go down and were ignorant about the history and the veterans rights to be there or just didn't care
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Haha deal w/ it. You have no choice in the matter.
The majority of Canadians are finally starting to have enough. Once their umbilical cord is finally cut, like in Australia, they will have to function like the rest of modern Canada. It's only a matter of time. Oh look, it's already happening.

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Ya, because I question where my tax dollars go and how it's spend I'm automatically racist. That is their usual excuse... "get educated".
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I can understand belka's point of view.. that is to say that First Nations do get alot of support from our govt.

Whether it be; free housing, free post-secondary education, tax cuts, food vouchers, etc. I don't know how it works really as I'm not FN, but if you take all these handouts, does it say you have to stay in the FN community? (HIGHLY doubt it) Thus why is the FN population so... down and out and just raping the handouts?

IMHO it seems to be the case of "give an inch, take a mile" when it comes to a higher majority of FN. If I was given free post-sec education.. I'd go be a lawyer/doctor and make a killing.
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I can understand belka's point of view.. that is to say that First Nations do get alot of support from our govt.

Whether it be; free housing, free post-secondary education, tax cuts, food vouchers, etc. I don't know how it works really as I'm not FN, but if you take all these handouts, does it say you have to stay in the FN community? (HIGHLY doubt it) Thus why is the FN population so... down and out and just raping the handouts?

IMHO it seems to be the case of "give an inch, take a mile" when it comes to a higher majority of FN. If I was given free post-sec education.. I'd go be a lawyer/doctor and make a killing.
Your view point is perfectly reasonable, unlike belka's...It's articulated appropriately instead of a "f*ck the Natives they need to gtfo of this country." I agree with your concerns...

However, there are underlying problems in the First Nations community that root from centuries of marginalization. In our country, we have a problem with First-Nations and poverty, drug, alcohol and incarceration. It's synonymous African-American's living in a post-slavery era. To think that a race is prone by genetics to be this way would be ludicrous. Societal conditions have caused this and continued to assist with this marginalization.

Clearly, "hand outs" are not the solution to help the First Nation's community to live better lives. I don't know what would help but my point is that they have a long-standing history of oppression which has led them to be where they are at today in society. That's not to say that there aren't a group of First Nations who aren't taking any responsibility for their lives and willing to work for better.

Many people have the mindset that enough is enough, it is time to move on and continue on without paying back or making efforts towards the First Nations or African-Americans...unfortunately, even if we feel enough is enough, the reality is our efforts to help fight against the marginalization of first nations have not been effective and similarly, First Nation's efforts to help their role in society haven't been effective either.
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Belka and the rest of the ignorant lot needs to get educated about First Nation before spewing slanders and hate speech towards them. Your stupidity and ignorance is what keep the marginalization of those people going. They were fucked many many generations by the Canadian government with your tax dollars so shut the fuck up. Stuffs like residential schools are just a small part of the issue that has plaqued their community until today. It makes me sick all people like you care about is your tax dollars. We all pay taxes what make yours so special?

How would you like those ungrateful natives come to your house take away your properties, your wife and kids, slave your ass away and justify it by givong you some handouts? Idiot.
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It happened to the Jews and most of them are doing alright.

My uncle touched me when I was three so now I'll never get over it and my whole life is for naught

Sooo many groups of people all over the world have gone through similar histories, and while there wil always be resentment the vast majority of them have moved on.
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Belka and the rest of the ignorant lot needs to get educated about First Nation before spewing slanders and hate speech towards them. Your stupidity and ignorance is what keep the marginalization of those people going. They were fucked many many generations by the Canadian government with your tax dollars so shut the fuck up. Stuffs like residential schools are just a small part of the issue that has plaqued their community until today. It makes me sick all people like you care about is your tax dollars. We all pay taxes what make yours so special?

How would you like those ungrateful natives come to your house take away your properties, your wife and kids, slave your ass away and justify it by givong you some handouts? Idiot.
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Maybe you should atleast post a thought-out response and not just slander back at people.
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Better believe my daughter will take full advantage of her "Indian Status" and not take ANYTHING for granted in the process. Yes she is .25 Native.
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so, how does the rule work? what if your 0.25 native kid has a kid with a non native person?
does her kid get native status?

at what point does it diminish to nothing?

i guess we just have to breed natives out by breeding with all of them until their DNA has been diluted to the point of diminishing returns lol!!!

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i guess we just have to breed natives out by breeding with all of them until their DNA has been diluted to the point of diminishing returns lol!!!
This is a serious concern for the Aboriginal community in Australia, actually. I'm surprised its not been brought up in Canada yet.
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I believe you just have to be able to trace back your heritage of the blood line?

I can fully respect anyone that is 10% and actually uses it to get a free education etc
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This is a serious concern for the Aboriginal community in Australia, actually. I'm surprised its not been brought up in Canada yet.
how is it a problem?

I would like to imagine in the far future, there are no different races, and cultures and whatever.

just one human race. one culture. one value. one mind. welcome to the borg.
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So the guy served for the country and decides to show up in his native outfit at the ceremony?
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You are right, too much money was and still is, given out.

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Stuffs like residential schools are just a small part of the issue that has plaqued their community until today.
Speaking of education, how much and what training do band leaders have to run a multi million dollar operation? What are the government's standards when they turn over millions of taxpayers dollars to people who do not have the education, training, or experience to do the job? Not every band, but probably hundreds.

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The taxpayer, if informed, should be outraged at what is going on. Not all Reserves, but there are stories of new fire engines rusting on Reserves because of no volunteers to get the training to operate and maintain. Everyone is otherwise occupied. AANDC hands over millions with not a hope of responsible management and accountability. What is wrong with this decade long practice? It is probably because the government is afraid of being labelled racists by all the usual suspects.

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So what happened hundreds of years ago somehow translates to what is happening now. Get a grip with reality.
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