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04-19-2017, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SkunkWorks  In theory, yes. In reality, PCV is currently only taking deposits for the .2 GT3 *if* you have a GT-car to trade OR you buy the .1 for 200k and trade it in when the .2 comes in. Obviously at a 40-60k deficit. Is fucked... | True story, unless you have a very very strong relationship with your local Porsche dealer you won't be able to secure a 991.2 GT3... even if you put a deposit down 3 years ago, if this is your first Porsche, you will most certainly never get your order filled.
The deposit list @ Porsche Edmonton is supposedly 40+ deep, I can imagine it's much worse at the Vancouver dealers. Never mind the 40 people with deposits, there is another 10-20 people who are preferred customers with CGT's, 918's, or 2-3 Porsches at home who will bump any deposit holder down the line.
I think it's best to simply be patient, eventually the current car market will cool off, and when it does, it will be 2008 fire sale all over again. Save your money and wait for the right time to buy, mere mortals like 99% of us on RS simply can't afford to get into the 1M, GT3, GT4, etc game at this point.
It's one thing to buy a 130K 997.1 GT3, it's another to be holding on to it when the market only wants to pay 75K for it in two years etc.
Edit: I did have a bit of a dialogue with my SA about getting a 991.2, I won't be surprised if he calls me one day offering a car @ MSRP that someone else walked away from etc. Still though, @ 180K+Taxes for a "reasonable" configuration it's a pretty expensive car, makes the GT4 seems like even more of a bargain.
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04-19-2017, 09:02 PM
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#17852 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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04-20-2017, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SkunkWorks Man, I remember seeing this on CL a year or so back. Was asking $58k at the time and sat for a little while. Thought to myself, "man that's super low kms but I don't want to pay a premium for that as I want to drive it actually" and passed. If only...
In theory, yes. In reality, PCV is currently only taking deposits for the .2 GT3 *if* you have a GT-car to trade OR you buy the .1 for 200k and trade it in when the .2 comes in. Obviously at a 40-60k deficit. Is fucked... | the moral of the story is to have a good relationship with the sales manager 
I have an older friend that literally trades in his GT cars every 9-12 months because he gets to drive them for free. He pays MSRP, they give him back MSRP with 10k kms....not a bad deal....
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04-20-2017, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Z3guy I have an older friend that literally trades in his GT cars every 9-12 months because he gets to drive them for free. He pays MSRP, they give him back MSRP with 10k kms....not a bad deal.... | Don't forget about the taxes though, just the tax on these could buy you a whole other car.
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04-20-2017, 07:51 AM
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not sure if it's the same one from before... just because you have a wife/dog/2.5 kids dosen't mean you have to be in something slow: 2007 Toyota RAV4 v6 - excellent condition - $10000 (Coquitlam) https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/pml/cto/6095980988.html 
another one. cheaper, but more mileage and looks a little more worn: 2006 Toyota Rav4 Sport - $7500 (Surrey) https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/6095897272.html 
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04-20-2017, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by underscore Don't forget about the taxes though, just the tax on these could buy you a whole other car. | you only pay taxes on the price difference since you are always trading in a car.....
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04-20-2017, 08:24 AM
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"The guy in the CR-V meanwhile, he'll give you a haughty glare. He's responsibly trying to lessen his impact, but there you go lumbering past him with your loud V8, flouting the new reality. You may as well go do some donuts in a strawberry patch and slalom through a litter of kittens." Dan Frio, Automotive Editor, Edmunds
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04-20-2017, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Z3guy you only pay taxes on the price difference since you are always trading in a car..... | Wait really? Damn that's good to know.
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04-20-2017, 09:19 AM
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#17859 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Originally Posted by underscore Wait really? Damn that's good to know. | Something to look at when trading vs selling privately. You can take a little less from the dealer if you will be saving the difference in dealer offer vs private offer in taxes hopefully.
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04-20-2017, 10:01 AM
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^I am sure the car dealer assoc. lobbying groups closed this loophole. I was always a guy who sold his cars privately, but with the tax savings (15%) on a $50K car is $7,500, so what you lose when you trade in a car at wholesale is made up on the tax savings. Hence, it makes more sense to trade your car in Vs selling it privately. Then asshat cars dealers mark it up allot and provide financing to the next person.....rigged system for sure...
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04-20-2017, 10:06 AM
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04-20-2017, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by white rocket You had me dripping until I saw "SMG" | you and me both. but there many out there who don't know what to do with their left foot other than to stay upright so... 
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04-20-2017, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by thumper you and me both. but there many out there who don't know what to do with their left foot other than to stay upright so... | or who have bunk left knees....DAMN YOU BUNK LEFT KNEE!!!
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04-20-2017, 11:33 AM
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#17864 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by Z3guy ^I am sure the car dealer assoc. lobbying groups closed this loophole. I was always a guy who sold his cars privately, but with the tax savings (15%) on a $50K car is $7,500, so what you lose when you trade in a car at wholesale is made up on the tax savings. Hence, it makes more sense to trade your car in Vs selling it privately. Then asshat cars dealers mark it up allot and provide financing to the next person.....rigged system for sure... | Rigged system... LOL...
Next time, if you'd prefer, the dealer can consider your trade as a buy-in, instead of a trade in so you don't get the tax benefit. That way you don't have to partake in such a rigged system!
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04-20-2017, 11:41 AM
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I wouldn't knock DCT boys, once you drive it awhile, it is awesome! I am a manual guy at heart, but DCT and PDK are so intelligent, firm, and intuitive. I am not sure I will go back....every time I drive my AMV8 it feels like a time machine.....
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04-20-2017, 12:03 PM
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#17866 | | nuggets mod
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Originally Posted by Z3guy I wouldn't knock DCT boys, once you drive it awhile, it is awesome! I am a manual guy at heart, but DCT and PDK are so intelligent, firm, and intuitive. I am not sure I will go back....every time I drive my AMV8 it feels like a time machine..... | I should just take it off your hands for cheap.....
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04-20-2017, 12:26 PM
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#17867 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by dared3vil0 Rigged system... LOL...
Next time, if you'd prefer, the dealer can consider your trade as a buy-in, instead of a trade in so you don't get the tax benefit. That way you don't have to partake in such a rigged system! | What is "rigged" is having to pay taxes on any used vehicle purchase. If that was eliminated then dealers used pricing would need to be more competitive.
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04-20-2017, 03:22 PM
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The one loophole left is that many people declare lower values when buying / selling privately. Dealers generally are not willing to reduce the declared purchased price.
The dealer lobby group managed to tighten the rules dramatically for gifting so it wouldn't surprise me if they take the self declaring away to even the playing ground.
In WA state a buyer pays only pay 6.8% on private or dealer purchases but the amount you pay is based on fair market value. This comes from a pricing guide. Dealers actually add it to the purchase price automatically and it must be displayed clearly and with private sales the buyers pays it afterwards.
If the purchase price is within $2000 of fair market value the state uses the actual sales price. If it is less than $2000 of fair market value you must pay base on fair market value or the burden is on the buyer to prove that the car is worth less. How to Calculate Washington Car Tax - CarsDirect
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04-20-2017, 04:26 PM
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#17869 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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S2000, ap2, 86k km, only $22k
hmm...doesn't look ap2 though, but maybe worth checking out, wheels, lights, tails don't look it...maybe someone is trolling
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04-20-2017, 04:29 PM
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#17870 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Sure as hell doesn't look like steveston to me in the background.... Just me tho
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04-20-2017, 04:30 PM
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#17871 | | I subscribe to the Fight Club ONLY
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Unicorn alert ... a fair priced S2000. 2006, 85K kms, silver, $22K
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Booo ... got swindled   !!
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04-20-2017, 04:36 PM
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#17872 | | hoppity HOP HOP
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Originally Posted by 320icar Sure as hell doesn't look like steveston to me in the background.... Just me tho | The colour of the driveway... is not very Richmond-like. Too much beige.
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04-20-2017, 04:54 PM
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#17873 | | Waxin’ Punks
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Price is listed much lower than any other S2000 on the market now because this is a FAIR price for an 11 year old car.
| Seems like someone is butthurt they can't afford one in this market.
"Hmm I know I can get more but darnit, this car is 11 years old. I wouldn't feel right about taking more than 22k." 
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04-20-2017, 05:15 PM
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#17874 | | Need my Daily Fix of RS
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Originally Posted by whitev70r | Lol yeppp. another person who wants an s2000 but cant afford one. Sorry pal, fake ad verified. https://www.s2ki.com/forums/cars-sal...0-18k-1117126/ | |
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04-20-2017, 05:17 PM
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#17875 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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