if we could liquidate the fat useless contracts that this team currently carries, i'd be so happy.

x2 on just getting rid of Miller cap space. In this era, that's as valuable (if not more) than draft picks.

Everyone is going to be in a cap crunch though. You pretty much have to target small market teams that are trying to get to the floor.

If you want stats look at Jmac's post. Pretty much sums up everything to a tee

Petry re-signs in Montreal. 6 x $5.5M

liquidate fat useless contracts? :fuckthatshit:

Benning will just sign more of them

Sbisa at 3.6 fucking million :facepalm: :rukidding:

Easy for you to say now after this season. Did you miss the months that went by where everyone was crying about Horvat's skating ability?

There's absolutely no such thing as a guaranteed NHL'er unless your name is Crosby or McDavid, for every one of those there are 5 Patrik Stefan's, so you "come on guy". Nobody knew all those players drafted were all going to turn out before that draft, if you think 2013 was as highly regarded as this years okay then. Hindsight is always 20/20 stop pretending everyone let alone you knew what would end up happening with any of those players.

Yah it's awesome he had more time than me I'm on France right now, and I'm not being sarcastic he did a great summary.

Schneider stops 1 more shot every 3 games than Lack, it is important in the long run, I just don't see much of a difference between them skill wise. I see a huge difference between them perception wise. Lack is his own worst enemy as nobody takes him seriously because he's such a goofball, Schneider is a very serious guy and it comes through even when he's making joke videos with Luongo. There is no denying the fact Schneider played for way better Canucks teams than Lack has had the opportunity to.

I also stand by the fact neither one of them is a playoff goalie. I'm not even pumping Lack's tires here but people vastly overrated Schneider.

lolwut

What does being serious or being "a goofball" have anything to do with goalie skill? :fulloffuck:

I think that's something else called personality...

Every year seems to be the "best draft" leading up to it but 2013 is already looking very strong 2 years in.

Already significant NHL experience:
1st Round
MacKinnon (146 GP, 101 P)
Barkov (125 GP, 60 P)
Drouin (70 GP, 32 P)
Jones (159 GP, 52 P)
Lindholm (139 GP, 60 P)
Monahan (156 GP, 96 P)
Ristolainen (112 GP, 24 P)
Horvat (68 GP, 25 P)
Nichushkin (87 GP, 35 P)
Wennberg (68 GP, 20 P)
Zadorov (67 GP, 16 P)
Lazar (67 GP, 15 P)
Mueller (39 GP, 4 P)
Burakovsky (53 GP, 22 P)
Dano (35 GP, 21 P)

Later Rounds
De La Rose (33 GP, 6 P)
Duclair (18 GP, 7 P)

And then you have the guys still in juniors/minors like:
Nurse
Domi
Morrissey
Pulock
Rychel
Mantha
Poirier
Shinkaruk
McCarron
Theodore
Dickinson
Hartman
Bigras
Fucale
Zykov
Dauphin
Petan
Jarry
Bowie
Carrier
Comrie
Cassels
Bjorkstrand
Saros
Paul
Reway

who all look like they will be NHLers and who knows how many other, less-hyped prospects will become NHLers, too.

The only misses in the 1st round so far appear to be Gauthier and Klimchuk. Jury's still out on Morin, who has the size, but may not have the skating, hands, or IQ to be an NHLer (another Valabik, McIlrath, etc. possibly). Shinkaruk got off to a rough start to his pro career, but really started to play well down the stretch for Utica. Ended up outscoring uber-prospect Mantha.

As for 2015's class, it's hyped up pretty good. I know I'm not overly excited about the WHL's contributions in the later rounds as I was in past years. Even the guys from my Royals (Soy, Reddekopp) I'm pretty indifferent to. From what I've read, it's one of the weaker drafts from Europe, but the QMJHL is supposed to be stronger than usual and OHL is supposedly around average. Not sure about American contributions beyond the first round.

Comets are going to the Calder Cup final. Wins series 4-2
Markstrom with the shutout.

Utica wins 2-0, advances to the Calder Cup finals against Manchester (LAK's AHL affiliate).

Markstrom with 2 series-clinching shutouts. Also improves his Calder Cup Playoffs stats to 11-7 w/ a 1.77 GAA, a 93.3 Sv%, and 2 SO.

actually those players were all basic guarantees to be successful, unless major injury. if you follow juniors, and pay attention, especially to their playoffs you'll generally see who has the chance to be an impact player.
yes horvat was slowish to start with, but its not like he had fucked up skating issues like fox. it was more disappointment as people wanted rookies in the lineup asap, when he was actually 2-3 years away, like many drafted players.
also this schnieder being serious crap, lack not and it making a difference. wtf you talking about. roy, hasek were crazy as fuck. brodeur not so much. doesnt matter if you are borderline crazy or a soft spoken serious guy. it depends on your skills which schnieder has more of.

I'm not posting this as a knock against Shinkaruk, sounds like he's developing well in the minors. But Mantha hasn't been very good.

Maybe Detroit is trying to light a fire inside Mantha but they seem pretty unhappy with him.
Red Wings' top prospect Anthony Mantha draws fire from team VP

However, there is some optimism.
McIlrath :fuckthatshit: that was a bad pick by Sather, I guess at the time it didn't look so bad though but still, taking him before Fowler :fulloffuck:

Mantha didn't play THAT bad, he still put up 15 goals and 33 points. Maybe compared to the complete and utter domination he demonstrated in juniors.

The point is that Shinkaruk looks like he'll be an NHLer. He only had 4 goals, 10 points at around the halfway point of the season and ended up finishing with 16 goals, 31 points by the end. He's been a regular throughout the playoffs, even with more experienced players returning from injury (though he has been demoted to the 4th line, limiting his ice time and ability to produce points). Compared to other prospects in Utica, Jensen has routinely found himself in the press box and McCann is yet to suit up for a game since joining Utica several weeks ago.

The McIlrath pick, at the time, I know a lot of experts hated that pick. I seem to recall Pierre McGuire being dumbfounded at how McIlrath was chosen before Fowler and Gormley, both of whom were expected to be top 5 picks.

ISS Top 30 from 2010. McIlrath wasn't even ranked in the top 30

# Name Pos Birthdate S/C Ht. Wt. Team League

1 Hall, Taylor LW 11/14/1991 L *6.00.5 185 Windsor OHL
2 Seguin, Tyler C 1/31/1992 R *6.01 172 Plymouth OHL
3 Gormley, Brandon D 2/18/1992 L *6.02 185 Moncton QMJHL
4 Tarasenko, Vladimir RW 12/13/1991 L 5.11 202 Novosibirsk KHL
5 Fowler, Cam D 12/5/1991 L *6.01.25 190 Windsor OHL
6 Niederreiter, Nino LW 9/8/1992 L *6.01.5 201 Portland WHL
7 Gudbranson, Erik D 1/7/1992 R *6.03.75 195 Kingston OHL
8 Johansen, Ryan C 7/31/1992 R *6.02 192 Portland WHL
9 Skinner, Jeffrey C 5/16/1992 L *5.10 187 Kitchener OHL
10 Forbort, Derek D 3/4/1992 L *6.04.5 198 Under 18 USHL
11 Merrill, Jonathan D 2/3/1992 L *6.03.25 198 Under 18 USHL
12 Watson, Austin RW 1/13/1992 R *6.03.25 185 Peterborough OHL
13 Connolly, Brett LW 5/2/1992 R 6.02 181 Prince George WHL
14 Burmistrov, Alexander C 10/21/1991 L *5.11.25 157 Barrie OHL
15 Granlund, Mikael C 2/26/1992 L 5.10 180 HIFK Helsinki FinE
16 Howden, Quinton LW 1/12/1992 L *6.02 182 Moose Jaw WHL
17 Pysyk, Mark D 1/11/1992 R *6.01.25 174 Edmonton WHL
18 Etem, Emerson C 6/16/1992 L *6.00.25 190 Medicine Hat WHL
19 Kuznetsov, Evgeny C 5/19/1992 L 6.00 172 Chelyabinsk KHL
20 Pitlick, Tyler C 11/1/1991 R 6.01.5 194 Mankato WCHA
21 Bjugstad, Nick C 7/17/1992 R *6.03.75 188 Blaine MN-HS
22 Sheahan, Riley C 12/7/1991 L 6.01.5 202 Notre Dame CCHA
23 Schwartz, Jaden C 6/25/1992 L *5.10 180 Tri-City USHL
24 Galiev, Stanislav C 1/17/1992 R *6.00.75 178 Saint John QMJHL
25 Tinordi, Jarred D 2/20/1992 L *6.05.5 205 Under 18 USHL
26 Nelson, Brock C 10/15/1991 L *6.02.5 205 Warroad MN-HS
27 Rensfeldt, Ludvig LW 1/29/1992 L *6.02.75 192 Brynas SJ18A
28 Coyle, Charlie RW 3/2/1992 R *6.01.5 202 South Shore EJHL
29 Larsson, Johan LW 7/25/1992 L *5.10 200 Brynas SJ18A
30 Zucker, Jason LW 1/16/1992 L *5.10.5 174 Under 18 USHL

17th amongst North American skaters in CSS rankings:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospect...at=1&year=2010

I've seen nothing to indicate that Freddy 'The Goat' Gauthier is a miss. He may have been selected a little too early in the draft, but his numbers while winning the QMJHL Championship were decent, he manages to earn a spot on Team Canada, and has the size and IQ to make it in the NHL.

mantha broke his leg in september, first half of the season was basically a write off.

also im guessing this will probably be the last group of games for jensen in the canucks system

What makes you say that?

He's improved his defensive game (though still inconsistent) and still has quite a bit of potential. Keep in mind, he's just 22 years old.

What Benning said during an interview about Jensen's overall game and the fact that he's been a healthy scratch for several games now. With the emergence of Cassells, McCann, Shink etc. Jensen's stock has absolutely plummeted.

Guys, can you both try reading a little harder? I said the perception of both of them is different due to their personalities, not their skill level.

If you don't know know what perception is you might want to look it up for no other reason than its kind of an important factor of everyone's life. Unless you're in a position where you never have to win anyone's favour that is.

Didn't catch the interview.

Do you have a link or a recap?

Sorry but it's incorrect to say anyone is a basic guarantee to be an impact player. You could legitimately say they are all projected to be NHL players -- but that's a redundant statement since they wouldn't be in the draft and teams wouldn't pick them if they werent projected to be NHL players! I mean, there are 3 first overall draft picks in the last 20 years or so that never even played in the NHL let alone the myriad of them that never became impact players and that's just first overall picks. Heck, the Canucks themselves have drafted quite a few first rounders that never played in the NHL! With that "basic guarantee" Logic a first overall should be an impact player every time? I don't think so. I don't have time to go look through all the draft years maybe Jmac does but I bet you there's a shitload of guys who never played or did anything even in the top 10.

It's getting better with metrics and prospect camps and all the work teams put into their evaluations nowadays but come on... Nothing is a sure thing except for a couple exceptional players here and there. I bet you will even find a few people who have gotten a little nervous about McDavid after he so easily got shut down by Cassels in the playoffs. I think they'd be silly, but you can't discount the difference between an NHL game and everything below it.

didnt say anyone, said the top 10. as to why, you answered part of it yourself. advancements in scouting, media, technology, transportation, and training have made it so that predicting is much easier than it every used to be. not only from being able to view, or digest info more, but from the fact with these kids are now training harder at a younger age. because of this they are separating themselves from others. thus we now see less late round picks that become all-stars compared to much earlier years, where some unknown russian, or swedish player would be picked. oh and the other reason for being able to see why the top 10 in 2013 were all nhl capable, is because it was a fucking strong draft, which you can know by paying more attention to the different leagues.

honestly hes never had much upside, besides the run with the sedins late in the season ala jason king. he was always projected as a 3rd liner who can maybe slot in on the 2nd line at times, while having a weak defensive game. although he was technically picked around where he was ranked, he seemed like a hit or miss prospect. especially with saad, rattie, jurco, and jenner before or just after him.
hes been passed by cassels, mccann, virtanen, gaunce, shinkaruk, grenier for forward prospects. and also consider the younger forwards we have on the nhl roster in kenins, baertschi, horvat, and if you want to include kassian/vey(suspicions about kassian being gone as well too). hes been passed by too many who have better qualities than him imo.
although he scored while he played in europe, i feel hes just a player who benefited offensively from larger ice.

I love the Canucks Social Media Hype Machine leading to all these comments

but...i thought its been known that Jensen sucks.. didn't pan out the way the team really wanted him to. However, if the canucks development system is good, they will find a way to utilize him one way or another whether its in the AHL or at the NHL level.

anyways

great ad here

is Jensen worth at least a 3rd round pick?
:troll:

semisrs.

It was actually a video made by a reddit user. Funny because there were a few sites that shared it and actually thought it was an NHL ad.