REVscene - Vancouver Automotive Forum


Welcome to the REVscene Automotive Forum forums.

Registration is Free!You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! The banners on the left side and below do not show for registered users!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   REVscene Automotive Forum > Automotive Chat > Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events

Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events The off-topic forum for Vancouver, funnies, non-auto centered discussions, WORK SAFE. While the rules are more relaxed here, there are still rules. Please refer to sticky thread in this forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-07-2014, 12:31 AM   #76
private modder
 
Eff-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: North Shore
Posts: 6,054
Thanked 1,641 Times in 422 Posts
If you have met her, you would understand why the response has been what it is. If you haven't met her, then you won't get it. If $25k is raised in 48hrs, that speaks to her character as a kind person and the network she has made for herself. Why question it??
Advertisement
Eff-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 08-07-2014, 12:40 AM   #77
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: not vancouver
Posts: 2,647
Thanked 1,938 Times in 765 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
I don't understand why this part is so hard for some of you people to understand.
i don't get why it's important.

some people like to be popular, some people can't live without having loads of friends... others prefer a quieter life... so she has loads of friends who want to help her out - good for her, it's none of our business. if you don't want to donate, don't. there are millions of charities out there, you can't donate to them all - put this in that category
4444 is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 08-07-2014, 11:50 AM   #78
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
you!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ur sistrs pants
Posts: 2,635
Thanked 565 Times in 98 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero View Post
i'm trying to understand the significance of this question

if someone is out and about past 2am are you implying they might be up to no good? we don't live in a police state with martial law.
read quote below

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4444 View Post
i think for a lot of people it is just wonderment. 4am is a relatively abnormal time for most people to be at or around pacific and abott - granville, gastown, yaletown is probably more acceptable, but the question is more of was she at the cross walk, or was she jaywalking, was this a horrid accident where she was intoxicated and accidently stumbled into the road?
^^ what 4444 said is exactly what i meant
so many posts since i last asked the question and yet it remains unanswered whether she was jaywalking/texting/drunk or if she was sober and and did nothing wrong, the point is people still need to know the events that occurred before the incident, especially those who does not even know her and made donations

whatever happened to knowing both sides of the story? what's the reason why people wont post it here, on the donations website, on vancity buzz, fb, etc etc??
you! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 11:57 AM   #79
RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
 
meme405's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,625
Thanked 7,179 Times in 2,177 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by you! View Post
whatever happened to knowing both sides of the story? what's the reason why people wont post it here, on the donations website, on vancity buzz, fb, etc etc??
I agree kind of.

But knowing both sides of the story kind of went out the window the moment the dumbass Civic driver decided to run.

Now it doesn't matter anymore what happened leading up to the event, that guy is the villain.
__________________

Barney Fucking Purple FX35
Brianna - 2008 FX35 - Build Thread
meme405 is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 08-07-2014, 12:02 PM   #80
NOOB, Not Quite a Regular!
 
Ching.Chong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: E4rth
Posts: 32
Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts
wow
Ching.Chong is offline   Reply With Quote
This post FAILED by:
Old 08-07-2014, 12:03 PM   #81
i like gifs
 
Ch28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: imgur
Posts: 26,112
Thanked 6,737 Times in 2,290 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by you! View Post
whatever happened to knowing both sides of the story? what's the reason why people wont post it here, on the donations website, on vancity buzz, fb, etc etc??
Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps the reason that nobody has said anything regarding this is because she was alone? She lives downtown, so it's not unimaginable that she was just walking home after a night out with friends.

I'm sure there have been nights where we've stayed out until 3-4am. Seriously, she knows everybody. Wouldn't be surprised if she's always being invited to events around the city.
Ch28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 12:13 PM   #82
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
you!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ur sistrs pants
Posts: 2,635
Thanked 565 Times in 98 Posts
i know what u mean but yeh sure i could just be walking home too after a night out with friends but at the same time while walking home i may just want to get there faster by jaywalking, or maybe i could be texting/talking to someone, may just be really tired and not too attentive of my surroundings or i may be doing none of those and just walking home in a normal manner

its more for public awareness the way i see it - ive never been at that area, i frequent dt but im not familiar with the area where the incident happened so it's also good to know about the potential hazards around that area

like if im just walking by robson and thurlow area around rush hour it is very common to see ppl jaywalking or on the phone but the area she was at during the time of incident may be 10x more dangerous
you! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 12:22 PM   #83
What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS!
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 158
Thanked 220 Times in 37 Posts
First walking at 4am alone isn't a good choice. Second, We don't know what really happened, but there could've been multiple scenarios. she might have jaywalked; she could've walked across the street legally but didn't scan the intersection. maybe she looked at her phone. I have seen both scenarios in downtime too many times. Jaywalkers; people dashing across the street not making eye contact with the left turning car or right turning car or not making sure if the car with red light has fully stopped. Not to mention it was 4am, people should've been even more cautious.
anxiety is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 12:24 PM   #84
I have named my kids VIC and VLS
 
Hondaracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Off-Topic
Posts: 27,742
Thanked 7,286 Times in 2,578 Posts
Jay walking drunk at 4am hit by drunk driver heading home

If you hit a jaywalker when your sober or Somone just stepped out in front of you, you might as well stick around because it will be on the person walking. However public opinion will always be on the driver and with stories like the stupid $30 pizza one here, even if you are sober you'd probably be tempted to drive away then have your name dragged through the mud for Somone else's fault.

Not saying directly in this case but pedestrians in general should be more accountable or at least use their heads before stepping out in front of a 3000 lb car and thinking they're in the right.
__________________
Dank memes cant melt steel beams
Hondaracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 01:01 PM   #85
Hypa owned my ass at least once
 
Noir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Japan
Posts: 6,747
Thanked 1,314 Times in 540 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondaracer View Post
Jay walking drunk at 4am hit by drunk driver heading home

If you hit a jaywalker when your sober or Somone just stepped out in front of you, you might as well stick around because it will be on the person walking. However public opinion will always be on the driver and with stories like the stupid $30 pizza one here, even if you are sober you'd probably be tempted to drive away then have your name dragged through the mud for Somone else's fault.

Not saying directly in this case but pedestrians in general should be more accountable or at least use their heads before stepping out in front of a 3000 lb car and thinking they're in the right.
That's one hell of a stretch, that I've ever seen, about arguing for the party who hit-n-ran.
Noir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 02:38 PM   #86
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
quasi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cloverdale
Posts: 10,231
Thanked 2,280 Times in 827 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondaracer View Post
Jay walking drunk at 4am hit by drunk driver heading home

If you hit a jaywalker when your sober or Somone just stepped out in front of you, you might as well stick around because it will be on the person walking. However public opinion will always be on the driver and with stories like the stupid $30 pizza one here, even if you are sober you'd probably be tempted to drive away then have your name dragged through the mud for Somone else's fault.

Not saying directly in this case but pedestrians in general should be more accountable or at least use their heads before stepping out in front of a 3000 lb car and thinking they're in the right.
True, my buddy hit some crackhead last month in the Vancouver Eastside on his way home from work. The guy stumbled into the side of his truck, bounced his head off side of the truck (hard enough to dent it) and then proceeded to get his legs run over as he fell under the back tire. The ambulance and cops came, the police told him it's a daily thing down here nothing you could do, took his statement and waived him along. The guy who got ran over wasn't very cooperative with the Police or the ambulance.
__________________



“The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place... and I donīt care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently, if you let it. You, me or nobody, is gonna hit as hard as life. But ain't about how hard you hit... It's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward... how much you can take, and keep moving forward. Thatīs how winning is done. Now, if you know what you worth, go out and get what you worth.” - Rocky Balboa
quasi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 03:26 PM   #87
Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
 
underscore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kel-pwn-a
Posts: 11,983
Thanked 4,971 Times in 2,174 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by noclue View Post
I think the reason why people are touchy about money crowd funding is that they still remember that grandma who got bullied on youtube and people crowd funded her $780,000USD... which is like winning the lottery. Ever since that story theres been lots of crowd-funding scams so people are more skeptic.
Better still, remember Kony 2012? Of course that was a total scam, but I'm still hesitant to crowdfund something that may not need funding. I haven't seen anything here yet to show she'll be paying for anything out of pocket so fundraising for bills she doesn't have seems a bit silly. I'd be more likely to donate to "she's stuck with a $xx bill" vs "she might have bills".

Quote:
Originally Posted by meme405 View Post
I agree kind of.

But knowing both sides of the story kind of went out the window the moment the dumbass Civic driver decided to run.

Now it doesn't matter anymore what happened leading up to the event, that guy is the villain.
I wouldn't jump to that 100%, but it's leaning heavily in that direction.
__________________
1992 Toyota Celica GT-S // 1991 Toyota Celica GTFour RC FOR SALE // 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD

Quote:
Originally Posted by maksimizer View Post
half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevYouUp View Post
reading this thread is like waiting for goku to charge up a spirit bomb in dragon ball z
Quote:
Originally Posted by Good_KarMa View Post
OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
underscore is offline   Reply With Quote
This post FAILED by:
Old 08-07-2014, 03:38 PM   #88
Captain Happy Bubble is my Homeboy
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 318
Thanked 35 Times in 21 Posts
The money would be good to cover all the work she's going to miss. It's going to be a LONG road back before she can even think of working. Having all this money would help so she wouldn't have to think about how she's going to cover her mortgage/loans etc.

Either way, like it's been said before, if you don't want to donate, don't. I'm sure if it was your sister/mom who got hit and runned, you would be singing a different tune.
raysquared is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 03:41 PM   #89
Hypa owned my ass at least once
 
Noir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Japan
Posts: 6,747
Thanked 1,314 Times in 540 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore View Post
Better still, remember Kony 2012? Of course that was a total scam, but I'm still hesitant to crowdfund something that may not need funding. I haven't seen anything here yet to show she'll be paying for anything out of pocket so fundraising for bills she doesn't have seems a bit silly. I'd be more likely to donate to "she's stuck with a $xx bill" vs "she might have bills".



I wouldn't jump to that 100%, but it's leaning heavily in that direction.
I think the point is not about recuperating and is moreso about compensating.

Yes, theoretically insurance should cover her recuperation, but i think the compensation aspect is more along the lines similar to:

- When you buy a friend a beer on a bad day.
- when you buy a friend who's down on his luck a meal.

Of course, we're talking about severe brain trauma and possibly life altering disabilities, so the concept is magnified. So instead of buying her a meal, it's more like her friends, family and anonymous well-wishers pooled together to make sure she's comfortable for the next year or two; which to me doesn't feel like an offensive or scammy a sentiment.

Now, if the friends and family was using guilt to raise funds like those random Filipina Charity beggars you get around town, then it would feel scammy. But it doesn't seem like that at the moment.


Edit: nm. Looks like there's a better answer below

Last edited by Noir; 08-07-2014 at 03:53 PM.
Noir is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 08-07-2014, 03:45 PM   #90
I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
 
Xu.Vi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: vancouver
Posts: 578
Thanked 697 Times in 163 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore View Post
Better still, remember Kony 2012? Of course that was a total scam, but I'm still hesitant to crowdfund something that may not need funding. I haven't seen anything here yet to show she'll be paying for anything out of pocket so fundraising for bills she doesn't have seems a bit silly. I'd be more likely to donate to "she's stuck with a $xx bill" vs "she might have bills".
There's actually a description in the webpage of where the proceeds will likely be going to. To quote:
Quote:
What will the funds be used for?

The funds will be used for medical and non-medical expenses incurred during Ovey's recovery process. It will also be used to offset general living expenses. In serious injuries, the recovery can be long and involve multiple expenses that are not covered by MSP. Examples include wheelchair, medicine, physiotherapy, and home care (when patients are not able to care for themselves).

Won't these expenses be covered?

It is difficult to say what will or will not be covered, and when any settlement(s) would be finalized. Ovey was a pedestrian in a hit-and-run accident, which involved a car and a driver that has not yet been identified. Settlements typically take time and do not help with short-term expenses incurred by the victim and their family.
Keep in mind, this isn't a plea from Ovey's family. Ovey's FRIENDS had put this together for her family to hopefully minimize financial burden.
Xu.Vi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 03:48 PM   #91
RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
 
meme405's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,625
Thanked 7,179 Times in 2,177 Posts
Just out of curiosity, and nothing facetious, at all meant by this.

What kind of condition is she in?

I mean I know she was put in an induced coma (supposedly). I mean the only thing I see in the media is that she was in critical condition.

There are people talking about like quadriplegia and brain damage. I just don't really know where people are getting this information. Not saying its not true, just wondering if there is a source...
__________________

Barney Fucking Purple FX35
Brianna - 2008 FX35 - Build Thread
meme405 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 04:05 PM   #92
i like gifs
 
Ch28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: imgur
Posts: 26,112
Thanked 6,737 Times in 2,290 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by meme405 View Post
Just out of curiosity, and nothing facetious, at all meant by this.

What kind of condition is she in?

I mean I know she was put in an induced coma (supposedly). I mean the only thing I see in the media is that she was in critical condition.

There are people talking about like quadriplegia and brain damage. I just don't really know where people are getting this information. Not saying its not true, just wondering if there is a source...
5 hours ago

Quote:
Thank you to friends who have respected the doctors' wishes by not visiting the hospital. We need your help in not calling the hospital to ask for Ovey's status. This interrupts the medical professionals' care for Ovey. Ovey's status is unchanged but stable and is still not able to see visitors.

Our family would also like to thank everyone for all the support, love, and kind words.

Clara Yeung
Ch28 is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 08-07-2014, 06:21 PM   #93
RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
 
Amuse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 4,684
Thanked 302 Times in 105 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulic Qel-Droma View Post
the answer is obvious.

you would call the cops and fold w the civic and try to get a licence plate.

what are u gonna do to help the victim? you a doctor? you a paramedic? you have the proper equipment? paramedics are coming anyway. but the civic is getting away every second you hesitate to follow it.

the damage has already been done, nothing you can do to lessen the physical harm done unless they were literally bleeding out and you knew how to stop the blood.
So what if the black civic driver runs multiple red lights? Will you run those reds too?
__________________
My feedback
Amuse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 07:07 PM   #94
Everyone wants a piece of R S...
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 395
Thanked 613 Times in 116 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore View Post
Better still, remember Kony 2012? Of course that was a total scam, but I'm still hesitant to crowdfund something that may not need funding. I haven't seen anything here yet to show she'll be paying for anything out of pocket so fundraising for bills she doesn't have seems a bit silly. I'd be more likely to donate to "she's stuck with a $xx bill" vs "she might have bills".
............
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 53400202.jpg (150.1 KB, 0 views)
dvst8 is offline   Reply With Quote
This post FAILED by:
Old 08-07-2014, 10:15 PM   #95
MiX iT Up!
 
tiger_handheld's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: vancouver
Posts: 7,694
Thanked 1,909 Times in 772 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp View Post
That's the power of media. I don't think a lot of people know her personally. Most likely is friends of friends knows her.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
I don't understand why this part is so hard for some of you people to understand.
to answer my own question.

she was a publicist and VP of a tech startup. chances are because of what she did, she had a lot of networks/connections.

to the folks that say, do you need to know someone to help. Of course you don't. BUT you are more willing to help if you have at least heard of their name before multiplied by the publicity the story receives.
__________________

Sometimes we tend to be in despair when the person we love leaves us, but the truth is, it's not our loss, but theirs, for they left the only person who couldn't give up on them.


Make the effort and take the risk..

"Do what you feel in your heart to be right- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't." - Eleanor Roosevelt
tiger_handheld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2014, 10:18 PM   #96
My homepage has been set to RS
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Nowhere
Posts: 2,113
Thanked 756 Times in 340 Posts
A VP and Publicist...sounds like she made good coin.
subordinate is offline   Reply With Quote
This post FAILED by:
Old 08-07-2014, 10:21 PM   #97
2x Variable Nockenwellen Steuerung
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: N49.2 W122.1
Posts: 6,179
Thanked 1,175 Times in 705 Posts
The doctors and nurses won't fully know until the patient is awake and off sedation. At this point it is all conjecture.

Induced coma gives the body's autonomic (ie more basic functions) to heal the body without interference.

As for funding, I assume it is to pay immediate bills like cables, rent etc while she is off work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by meme405 View Post
I mean I know she was put in an induced coma (supposedly). I mean the only thing I see in the media is that she was in critical condition.
godwin is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 08-07-2014, 10:37 PM   #98
NEWBIE ACCOUNT!
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 10
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
the brain is in a closed system (the skull). When we fall, there is bruising/swelling. The drug induced coma is to allow the swelling in the brain to reside as well as giving the doctors time to repair damaged blood vessels for example.

The words "critical" and stable are generic terms which doctors don't use themselves and is for the purposes of media. If the doctors give the specific conditions, it would be pages and pages of facts as well as patient confidentiality which doesn't allow the doctors to give details without the family's consent.

If one is able to see the surveillance videos, they can get an approximate speed of the impact (time of video with displacement of the car physics problem). This info could be compared to past similar collision cases (e.g. court filings) and can indirectly deduce her "condition" into the educated guess category versus speculation.

Last edited by Terwg; 08-07-2014 at 10:56 PM.
Terwg is offline   Reply With Quote
This post thanked by:
Old 08-07-2014, 10:37 PM   #99
y'all better put some respeck on my name
 
Harvey Specter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 17,744
Thanked 8,027 Times in 2,087 Posts
So should we crowd fund all victims of hit and runs or other accidents?
Harvey Specter is offline   Reply With Quote
This post FAILED by:
Old 08-07-2014, 10:47 PM   #100
I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
 
radioman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,567
Thanked 3,032 Times in 799 Posts
^sigh.....
radioman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net