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Old 08-07-2014, 10:49 PM   #101
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I think the question should be families of all victims or hit and runs or other accidents start crowd fund campaigns?

Some people see a need and some people don't. I think it is best for the families / victims decide for themselves.. you don't have to contribute if you don't want to.

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Ovey's case from a legal perspective is quite complex. She is an entrepreneur and is both active in the community as well as the start up world. The grey area is that she has not reached her full potential yet and the start ups she joined is just beginning to grow and so the stock options she has is not worth very much. If a med student is injured the insurance adjuster can project the student's lost wages she should have earned based on her career path and has evidence from past court cases/rulings to back up claims for both the defendant and the plaintiff. An entrepreneur or people who join start ups have an uncertainty future in that the start up could liquidate or could be the next Facebook/Amazon/Snapchat or could be a company in between. No one case is similar and past court rulings might not help due to the uncertainty. When wages are projected into the future on potential earnings, there is so much uncertainty. If this case goes to court with ICBC if both sides could not reach a viable settlement, it would be a long one in that lawyers from both sides have to argue their case to get the minimum settlement for ICBC and the maximum settlement for the injured.
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the last few pages of this thread can be summed up in one sentence:

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To be honest I was kinda annoyed why she needs donations for her medical expenses since we as taxpayers technically did contribute for her medical costs. A country that has universal health care shouldn't really have to get donations like the USA IMO. But Ronin explained the reasons why which is compelling but I don't agree cause ICBC will provide compensation eventually. In the end it's up to you if you sympathize and wish to help her in this tragic case.

PS she'll never get lost wages like a med school student from ICBC. Entrepreneur success rates are too low
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To be honest I was kinda annoyed why she needs donations for her medical expenses since we as taxpayers technically did contribute for her medical costs. A country that has universal health care shouldn't really have to get donations like the USA IMO. But Ronin explained the reasons why which is compelling but I don't agree cause ICBC will provide compensation eventually. In the end it's up to you if you sympathize and wish to help her in this tragic case.

PS she'll never get lost wages like a med school student from ICBC. Entrepreneur success rates are too low
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A VP and Publicist...sounds like she made good coin.
a VP of a start up = likely no actual income (bc the start up has no income) and publicist, that could mean anything in this day and age.

what a dumb comment - you must be so impressed by all these VP of bit.co.ly or lit.whatever.letters, all the BS no chance, no revenue start ups that splatter the market in this time of tech bubble. All these VP's are mostly 20 somethings that live in their parents' basements.

perhaps it will turn into something, chances are 95% of them won't. great thing about an online business, costs very little to establish.
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There's actually a description in the webpage of where the proceeds will likely be going to. To quote:

Keep in mind, this isn't a plea from Ovey's family. Ovey's FRIENDS had put this together for her family to hopefully minimize financial burden.
Okay, so they confirmed that this is all based on expenses she may or may not incur. Normally people wait until it's known that she'll be facing things not covered by insurance etc but whatever.

But if this is for her friends/family to help her out that begs the question, is it appropriate to point this to strangers (ie post it on RS)?
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That is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen you post. And you post some stupid shit!
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That is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen you post. And you post some stupid shit!
He thinks apathy makes him macho.

A girl is fighting for her life and all he can focus on is the $$$ she's getting. Not that he'll admit it but i don't know what he's jelly for. I don't know anyone on this board that would trade places with Ovey just for a Mercedes C-class; So i highly doubt Ovey, if she comes around will be thinking the same.
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He thinks apathy makes him macho.

A girl is fighting for her life and all he can focus on is the $$$ she's getting. Not that he'll admit it but i don't know what he's jelly for. I don't know anyone on this board that would trade places with Ovey just for a Mercedes C-class; So i highly doubt Ovey, if she comes around will be thinking the same.
lol not Jelly, just kind of highlighting points others have made here re: actually "needing" the money.

Every bit obviously helps and no way in hell anyone is trading X amount for a life altering brain injury. I think it's just a statement to the sad state of this world when being popular on social media can benefit someone like this, where as people who are constantly in need, or groups which constantly need funds to operate for beneficial causes don't get a sniff.

As well, always find it funny how people get their panties in a knot over a little poke like that.. if I had said in in person around people it would be blown off as "hah what an asshole" but when people read it to themselves and stew on it, it gets to ya lol..

Just because people "know, or "know of" someone its SRS business but then a click away people are "lolling" at trucks driving over peoples heads in the NSFW forum

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So should we crowd fund all victims of hit and runs or other accidents?
Says the guy who drives Bentleys and 7-series and everything else like it's NBD.

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Following my accident less than two years ago, my personal expenses to date are $12,659 for treatments, prescriptions, etc and counting. Yes ICBC covers all that but that's after negotiating, bureaucracy, court, etc.

As a victim ICBC will award you a settlement as well for pain and suffering, but it's correlated to the % of liabilty they find you. If you're found to be partially or completely at fault, it reduces or eliminates your settlement. Let's say you were hit by a drunk driver but you were jaywalking, there goes a lot of your settlement. Another example is if you were in a crash that 100% wasn't your fault, but you weren't wearing a seatbelt, your settlement will be impacted because you were partly responsible for the severity your injury.

Point is, I'm pretty confident the family will need this money along the way and that's why friends are reaching out to support.
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well, if she wakes up and she makes a full recovery, hopefully she'll just donate the money or give the money back.

if she wakes up, and she's all fucked up, i'm 100% certain the money wont cover personal medical or "new way of life" related expenses over the course of her life.

lol, you guys can bitch if she wakes up fine and keeps the money. I would support your cause then, but as of now, I'm pretty sure she'll need the money.
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Lol, you got what I was saying completely twisted.
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If you met her in real life then you'd know she'd be the first one to donate all of the proceeds to charity if she could.
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almost 6 pages and ppl here who actually knows what happened still won't dare to say whether she was jaywalking/texting/drunk/etc or just normal pedestrian

guessing then that it's safe to assume that she is a somewhat at fault for what happened
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Wow, so much of this conversation is ignoring the fact that a young woman is lying in a medically induced coma, fighting for what was her life.

Can we just put the squabbles to bed and have some respect. Imagine of she read this page as either a fully recovered person, or in a potentially retarded state... Let's consider the human tragedy that has occurred here and that could easily happen to all of our mums, sisters, or girlfriends
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almost 6 pages and ppl here who actually knows what happened still won't dare to say whether she was jaywalking/texting/drunk/etc or just normal pedestrian
Cynical much?

It's nothing to do with 'daring to say' what happened; nothing has been announced publicly on Facebook, in media, or otherwise.

Unless one of us is a close family member in the know, or has access to that security camera, or are one of the witnesses who they say were at the scene of the accident, none of us who know Ovey have been made aware of what actually happened.
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Please update any info, like if the bastard was caught or any more info on the black civic...
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almost 6 pages and ppl here who actually knows what happened still won't dare to say whether she was jaywalking/texting/drunk/etc or just normal pedestrian

guessing then that it's safe to assume that she is a somewhat at fault for what happened
Because maybe nobody knows. We weren't there. Just like you weren't. Ever think of that?
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Following my accident less than two years ago, my personal expenses to date are $12,659 for treatments, prescriptions, etc and counting. Yes ICBC covers all that but that's after negotiating, bureaucracy, court, etc.

As a victim ICBC will award you a settlement as well for pain and suffering, but it's correlated to the % of liabilty they find you. If you're found to be partially or completely at fault, it reduces or eliminates your settlement. Let's say you were hit by a drunk driver but you were jaywalking, there goes a lot of your settlement. Another example is if you were in a crash that 100% wasn't your fault, but you weren't wearing a seatbelt, your settlement will be impacted because you were partly responsible for the severity your injury.

Point is, I'm pretty confident the family will need this money along the way and that's why friends are reaching out to support.
If you're found partly at fault you should be the one shelling out because you were the one who fucked up.
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If you're found partly at fault you should be the one shelling out because you were the one who fucked up.
That's essentially what happens. You "shell out" by not getting whatever award you would have otherwise.

So if your award would've been 100k, and you were 30% at fault, you only get 70k. It's an overly-simplistic example, but that's generally how it is.
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