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Old 09-18-2014, 07:23 AM   #1
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Possibility of Tint Ticket Reduced to Warning in Court?

Last month, I got pulled over by an RCMP officer just as he exited the RCMP headquarters in Richmond. I was nothing but polite and respectful during the exchange, but still got a ticket despite some of the factors listed below.

Even though any front tint is illegal, given that I explain to the judge that:

- I chose a relatively modest 75% to allow for (officers') ease of visibility into the cabin.
Everyone that I talked to about my tint said they didn't even notice any front tint at all.

- Given the light transmission of the tint, they were only done to block most UV rays and to protect the interior.

- I was not speeding or driving erratically, and have no other illegal mods on my vehicle (he went over my vehicle thoroughly before handing me the tint ticket).

- First offense for tint.

- I paid $67.20 to have the tint removed the same day that I got the ticket and have receipt proof of it.


What are the chances I have the ticket reduced or given a warning instead? Surely if there's instances of anyone getting a warning for tint, my case should qualify? Not intended to be a whining thread, if there's no change to the ticket fine, then I will pay it and move on.
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how much is the ticket?

I believe if the ticket is over $50, you can reduce it by $25 if paid within 30 days, other than that, there's no wiggle room. You can always go to court to reduce it. Dunno if you can have it reduced anymore from ICBC
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how much is the ticket?

I believe if the ticket is over $50, you can reduce it by $25 if paid within 30 days, other than that, there's no wiggle room. You can always go to court to reduce it. Dunno if you can have it reduced anymore from ICBC
Sorry forgot to clarify, the ticket was definitely over $100 and I've already started the process to dispute it.
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Not that it's matters, but what % are the rears?
Maybe that's what attracted the police's attention?
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I got pulled over years ago when I was driving my old C43 and I had purchased it from North Vancouver Mercedes Benz with tint on all windows.
I had owned the car just under a month at this point, was working 7 days a week 12-16hrs a day and had no time to deal with it.
I got pulled over and the officer asked about it, I said I just bought the car and had not had time to remove it. He said I will have to write you a ticket for it, so I ripped the tint off right in front of him...he laughed and I was on my way with no ticket.

If you know it was illegal and got a ticket for it why are you disputing it?


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Last month, I got pulled over by an RCMP officer just as he exited the RCMP headquarters in Richmond. I was nothing but polite and respectful during the exchange, but still got a ticket despite some of the factors listed below.

Even though any front tint is illegal, given that I explain to the judge that:

- I chose a relatively modest 75% to allow for (officers') ease of visibility into the cabin.
Everyone that I talked to about my tint said they didn't even notice any front tint at all.

- Given the light transmission of the tint, they were only done to block most UV rays and to protect the interior.

- I was not speeding or driving erratically, and have no other illegal mods on my vehicle (he went over my vehicle thoroughly before handing me the tint ticket).

- First offense for tint.

- I paid $67.20 to have the tint removed the same day that I got the ticket and have receipt proof of it.


What are the chances I have the ticket reduced or given a warning instead? Surely if there's instances of anyone getting a warning for tint, my case should qualify? Not intended to be a whining thread, if there's no change to the ticket fine, then I will pay it and move on.
The only chance of having the fine amount reduced by the JJP would be to plead guilty and ask for a fine reduction, providing the information you've provided above. You won't get any sympathy for the reasons for putting it on/the % that you used, but you may get leniency with respect to you having immediately paid to have the tint removed. Dispute it and go to trial, you'll have to pay the full amount if/when found guilty.
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Nothing may be added to the window which reduces the light...that is what you did and that is the charge you will be convicted of. You may attend court, plead guilty and offer an explanation of what you did after you were caught. You may be asked by either the JP or the Police why you chose to tint the windows, knowing it was not legal. The JP may give consideration to the fact you have removed it. The fact you paid to do that is a consequence of your decision to have the tint there....or he/she may not?
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Thank you for the comments. I am aware now that it is illegal, but I will look for leniency on above factors I listed above since I hear about people getting warnings for a first offense.

I mentioned the cost of the removal as money is tight and the judge/officer might want to hear that I used the money towards removal rather than paying the fine and keeping the tint.
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Just so you are aware, there are clear films that are designed to cut out UV light without effecting the optical clarity of the windows.
It is still illegal as you are not allowed to put the tint on any front windows, but it is 100% clear so they would never know.
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Thank you for the comments. I am aware now that it is illegal, but I will look for leniency on above factors I listed above since I hear about people getting warnings for a first offense.

I mentioned the cost of the removal as money is tight and the judge/officer might want to hear that I used the money towards removal rather than paying the fine and keeping the tint.
Just because one person gets a warning doesnt mean everyone does. These "arguments" you're planning on presenting are excuses, not valid defenses or arguments.
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Just because one person gets a warning doesnt mean everyone does. These "arguments" you're planning on presenting are excuses, not valid defenses or arguments.
I'm aware of that, that's why I said "look for leniency". Asking for leniency doesn't mean I'm demanding something I'm entitled to, nor is it a legal reason or defense.
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Not that it's matters, but what % are the rears?
Maybe that's what attracted the police's attention?
The rear windows are 20% 3M Color Stable.
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I received a VI here in north van from an RCMP officer.

I had to remove the tint, and then go to the detachment with the VI for them to make sure it was removed. No ticket involved. Never had to pay a penny.

I would say its not worth the time to go to court and do all that work, but then again I don't know your situation. For me the risk of paying an extra $25, and wasting half a day going to court, far outweighs the benefit of having a ticket potentially be reduced by $50 or $100. Not to mention the fact that shit like this just plugs up traffic court and adds no real value for anyone considering the fact that you were guilty, and plan to admit it...

Seeing as how you already said you are disputing, all I can say is good luck, but you have an uphill battle ahead of you.
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I got a ticket for front window tint even though I didn't have any. It just looked like I did cause my rear 20% tint make the front look darker. Officer cancelled the ticket in court for me cause I went back to see him the next day during the day and him and his supervisor looked at my car and said it was their mistake.

Since you removed the tint and have receipt, you can call up the officer and plead your case to him. There is a possibility that he would be willing to cancel the ticket.
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Thanks, it's worth a shot to me.
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Might take a while to get a hold of the officer but just keep trying. You'll never believe how nice some of them really are when they aren't talking to you at the side of a road.
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Ill tell 3 ways to possibly get the ticket removed.

#1: Explain to the officer who gave you the ticket what you did and want and see if he will budge.
#2: Dispute the ticket(not the fine), and wait and see if the court system fucks up and you don't get the court date at all.
#3: If you do get a court date, show up for court and see if the cop shows up. If he does show up, don't even go to court. Just go home and pay the ticket.

I've had 2 separate tickets disappear on me via #2, so chances are pretty good.
Also, if you get a far off court date, it might even be grounds for not being heard in timely manner. (this is something i heard somewhere though, so cant say for sure.)

Personally, I think the tint law is bullshit.
Increases risk at night? ok fine, but clear UV tint being illegal? Such bs. Why is it illegal for me to take measures in preventing skin cancer. the shatter pattern/for your safety excuse cops gives is bullshit too. for the safety of cops? if they were in danger, forget a bone breaker to your window, theyd already be shooting at you lols. Id even argue that the tint holding the glass pieces together when it shatters is safer for the driver.
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Id even argue that the tint holding the glass pieces together when it shatters is safer for the driver.

You know, maybe, just maybe, all the safety engineers & car manufacturers in the world overlooked that point????
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I got pulled over by the VPD today for front window tint. The officer told me that if I removed it and dispute the ticket, he would cancel the fine on court day in 4 or 5 months. Yeah. I'm just gonna pay the fine.
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Anyone have front tints and didn't get ticketed yet?
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