In honest truth, I was too awestruck / devastated after Hans was taken out to notice too much of what is going on, and I agree the aftershock wasn't handled well at all. No disturbance in the force? No shot cutting back to Rey or Leia about feeling any disturbance at all? WTF?! :yuno:

As I sat down watching the credits afterwards, it suddenly came back to me that this is not the first time Captain Solo was taken out. Is he gonna come back just like he did before? Obviously, I have no idea, but it is what I am going to believe -- that somehow, Captain Solo is gonna come back. It won't make any sense, but he is gonna come back. :tears:

Last spoiler question -- is Finn at all in tune with the Force? My gut feeling tells me no, but I could be convinced otherwise if there are valid suggestions of him being so.

Captain Phasma. Lovin the chrome suit and all...

But what the fuck did she do in the movie. No action sequence whatsoever.

I was expecting a Boba Fett type character or at least some worth while fighting s

scene from her. But nope.

Garbage Compactor is good nuff for her.

Kylo Ren is such a disappointment in the movie. The trailers lead you to think he is badass, but what did he fxxking turned out to be? Some fxxking immuature, socially awkward crybaby that throws a temper tantrum whenever things don't go his way. He even looks the part for the shut-in whiny teen that he is.

He ways with the Dark Side is also weaksauce, failing to extract anything useful out of Poe Dameron or Rey. As a matter of fact, every time he tries to use the Dark Side powers on Rey, it ends up backfiring on himself. So pathetic that it was a complete let down.

After Hayden Christensen's failed attempt as Anakin, I didn't think it was possible to have a more disappointing character using the Force, but Kylo Ren definitely took this pathetic-ness to a whole new level.

But I do agree about Kylo Ren............ Disappointed.

Full disclosure I watched the movie in HK. That said:

1. Leia did feel something when Han was killed. She grabbed her heart and sat down right after in the command center.
2. Kylo, while disappointing, was portrayed to be a padawan/sith apprentice. Not a full blown Jedi. That's why he couldn't do everything we're accustomed to. It allows us to see arc from student to teacher for the Sith side, as we've seen multiple times for Jedi over the 6 movies. He couldn't get anything out of Rey for obvious reasons, but he did get that the map was in BB-8 from Poe. That's why they went back to Jakku to look for the droid.

My one irk was probably that Rey was so far and away the most Force-sensitive character without being a Jedi, seemingly out of nowhere.

Okay, I had predicted Solo was going to be the one that would die, and that turned out to be true. I'm alright with that, especially if it's going to be in a heroic way. And, I guess it kinda was. Trying to win his son back from the Dark Side is admirable and all that. However, it just didn't quite seem to have quite that "moment" I would have expected. Based on the trailers, I had kinda expected Han would have been the one to intercept Kylo from killing Rey and that's where I thought he would fall. Personally I think that would have been a bit better of a death for Han Solo and would likely have fit his character a bit better. I also have to echo the sentiments about Chewie. I would have expected him to blow the detonators and then go bezerk on anyone nearby. Again, seems like that would have been more inline with his character.

Also, Captain Phasma... not quite sure what to make of her. I'm sure she'll play some bigger part in the later movies, but it just seemed odd to have a character like her in the movie when all her lines could have been said by a random stormtrooper.

Lastly, I think Starkiller base should have simply been disabled at the end of the movie and not destroyed. In a movie that echoed Episode IV very strongly, having yet another massive Empire weapon destroyed was a little ho-hum.



All that aside, and they're more or less nitpicks than anything else, it was still a great movie. I did like how they didn't introduce Luke until the very end of the movie. There were already so many main characters that having even just one more would have made it feel too crowded on screen. I think JJ captured the essence of the original trilogy, even if it was a little derivative, and brought it up to modern times.

There were definitely some nostalgic moments to be had, and a manly tear or two may or may not have been shed.

I didn't like how everyone and their dog could just pick up a lightsaber and start fighting with it... from the original trilogy, i always had that feeling that light sabers were a real jedi only weapon, and you'd pretty much chop your arm off if you tried to use one without the force
(yes, i know luke turns it on as soon as Ben gives it to him in Ep. 4, but I thought that was crazy too.. he could have killed himself right there!)

Turning it on without knowledge of the force is not a problem for me -- I mean, if there is an ON/OFF switch, you just press a button, and Voila~! It turns on, right? I don't recall anywhere in SW saying that you need to channel the Force (through yourself and) into the lightsaber to fire it up, is there?

Additionally, I don't think anyone can really just pick up a lightsaber and start fighting with it effectively without prior training and knowledge with the force. It is quite obvious to me that (at least up to this point), Finn is not a user of the Force, and his fighting shows his lack of skill and knowledge of the Force.

Rey, on the other hand, has already shown herself to be a skillful fighter with her staff in prior fights. By the time she is wielding the lightsaber against Kylo Ren, the Force has already awaken in her, so it is sort of OK for her to use it with some skill. Defeating Kylo Ren despite being so green with the Force is also sort of OK since Kylo Ren is so weak sauce.

- Really hope Captain Phasma comes back in the next film and plays a larger role. She was supposed to be this big bad ass and ended up doing practically nothing. All the parts in the film she was in could have just been done by any other regular stormtrooper

- The Han Solo death scene was really well done. I kinda knew once he started walking onto that bridge that this might be it for him, but Adam Driver's acting left me with some doubts about that. Also thought Chewy was gonna go out guns blazing after seeing Han's death.

- Who's the old dude in the beginning who gives Poe the remaining piece of the map for the location of Luke? By appearances alone he reminded me of Obi-wan from A New Hope

- Who are the clones that Kylo Ren was threatening to bring in to replace General Hux's Stormtroopers

The one thing that felt a little heavy-handed was in trying to lead us to think Luke may be Rae's father. I mean, that would be the most obvious thing, right? Especially when you're throwing in plot points to reinforce that concept. And remember in the one trailer, Luke's voiceover of "The Force is strong in my family..."?

I SERIOUSLY hope all of that is a classic JJ misdirection tactic, because having it turn out that Luke really is Rae's father would be so fucking "DUH!"... like, that's something I'd expect out of the prequel trilogy - no subtlety at all.

On the plus side... NO FUCKING MIDICHLORIANS! :fuckyea:

Finn is Mace Windu's son and the Force is strong with him too :troll:

The Hans Solo death scene was really devastating for me. I was already getting bad vibes as soon as he decided to walk out. As the conversation unfolds, my gut feeling had me increasingly convinced that Kylo Ren was going to kill Hans. At the same time, I remember myself desperately analyzing Kylo Ren's words and actions in my head, hoping he wouldn't do it, thinking of ways to interpret how he might just be struggling to return to the Light Side. But for the whole while, I knew my wishful thinking was all futile. And then it happened.

The scene was very well done. You see it coming. You don't want it to happen. But you can't stop it from happening. You can't not watch. And then it happened. :tears:


If I have to make a guess, the clones would be the same ones from Kamino during the Clone Wars?

He also uses it against Ben's remote on the way to Alderaan, having zero training in the Force at that point, and nobody dies or gets maimed. He's swinging it around just fine, not actually using the Force at all until Ben puts the helmet on him and forces (yok yok) him channel it.

as a stormtrooper, the one interacting with rey when she was held captive