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Old Yesterday, 08:33 AM   #1176
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FYI, this was a great japanese movement.
They wanted to create coffee culture in japan. Good luck right? esp when it's all tea.
Well they started to create these candy and drove the next generation to taste of coffee.

Haven't fact checked cause no one would admit to it but not a bad theory.
But isn't Kopiko from Indonesia?
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I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again, European coffee culture, which is always hailed as a top tier version is trash.

Either that or we are just spoiled in Vancouver and Vancouver in general is totally underrated. I could get a better latte at 3-5 places within a 5 minute walk of me of every single coffee I’ve had on this trip. Americanos, lattes, drip and even instant is terrible
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mainstream euro coffee culture is trash, the same way mainstream NA coffee culture is trash.

there's plenty of good stuff in europe and many of the best roasters in the world for light roast are there.
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I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again, European coffee culture, which is always hailed as a top tier version is trash.

Either that or we are just spoiled in Vancouver and Vancouver in general is totally underrated. I could get a better latte at 3-5 places within a 5 minute walk of me of every single coffee I’ve had on this trip. Americanos, lattes, drip and even instant is terrible
Coffee is a lot more common in Europe than what we have here. Not sure where you are, but when I was in Southern France, every corner I could find a coffee shop, however crappy it might be, but it's there. So the quality can vary greatly.
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Just spent a week in Varadero, Cuba. This country has some of the worst coffee I have ever had.
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^and the worst food, courtesy of the USA.
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Coffee is a lot more common in Europe than what we have here. Not sure where you are, but when I was in Southern France, every corner I could find a coffee shop, however crappy it might be, but it's there. So the quality can vary greatly.
On my last trip we spent almost 2 weeks in France in and around Lyon and Avignon, the best coffee we found by far was a boutique roaster who roasted on site and every person working there was amazingly knowledgeable and could make a mean latte. We ended up buying a French press from then and 2 bags of grounds to bring around with us. This place resembled a place you’d find in a Vancouver or Seattle far more than the traditional European coffee place. The rest of France was absolute trash using Lavaza or comparable freeze dried garbage over poured and bitter.
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