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Old 04-29-2015, 03:47 PM   #26
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can i ask what the fuck you guys are downloading to use up 200-500gigs a month?
I torrent about 20GB/month, sharing my connection with 2 others in the family that stream daily and we hit about 400GB/month. It doesn't take much to get here. I question those that go over 1TB/month, and there are a few of those in this forum.

Like what I've mentioned in other threads, as technology advances, bandwidth delivery is cheaper on a yearly basis. We are already paying some of the highest fees for internet service in the world. Our internet services should be cheaper every year, with higher speeds and more bandwidth, instead it's heading the other direction. Straight price gouging.
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or better yet, find out exactly when your cycle resets and set a threshold on the router to give you a warning or cut off the internet if you are not willing to pay.

if you ever read the fine print of your contract, it always had the clause to charge you usage that is over the cap. just because you were never charged doesn't mean its a right for you to go over. its a privilege to you that it was never enforced.

them charging you for over usage is just according to contract. take it as a bonus when you were never charged.
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can i ask what the fuck you guys are downloading to use up 200-500gigs a month?
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do u all get pissy for going over ur monthly cell phone minutes as well?! same idea.
My cell phone company never used the word unlimited multiple times when I signed up, Shaw did.

Some one needs to design a program that will eat up all the bandwith you have left over each month.
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can i ask what the fuck you guys are downloading to use up 200-500gigs a month?
Gizmodo calculated that 1080p Netflix streaming uses 4.7GB/hour. That's already 141GB/month for only watching Netflix one hour each day. Add in more time and other legal internet activities that have increasing bandwidth requirements (Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, RS users posting 70MB gifs) and it's easy to see how 500GB/month is possible.
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You have a business hoping to make lots of money right? Before Netflix and other streaming services were around, data traffic wasn't too bad. But now its crazy! as jlo mein mentioned. Streaming services are now making big bucks off the backs of ISP. Netflix etc isnt giving a penny to ISP *correct me if I am wrong* who spends millions on upgrading and maintaining their network.

I currently use a 50MB plan which includes 400gb. Good thing my highest month is only 302GB in the past year.
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Adding to the point, revenue from tv services are dropping due to streaming services like netflix etc. As each of these telecom companies need to manage their bottom line you can bet that they start looking to monitor the usage of their customers and look to make up for the loss from their other lines of business through new pricing products and services.

It's the practice of a company that manages the shift in consumer behaviour. If you want unlimited bandwidth, then you should expect that the ISP will increase their pricing for those type of services as well.
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You have a business hoping to make lots of money right? Before Netflix and other streaming services were around, data traffic wasn't too bad. But now its crazy! as jlo mein mentioned. Streaming services are now making big bucks off the backs of ISP. Netflix etc isnt giving a penny to ISP *correct me if I am wrong* who spends millions on upgrading and maintaining their network.

I currently use a 50MB plan which includes 400gb. Good thing my highest month is only 302GB in the past year.
It doesn't cost much money to upgrade or maintain a ISP network. It cost the ISP 1 cent to deliver 1GB of data across their network these days (and that takes in account of all the expenses associated).

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Adding to the point, revenue from tv services are dropping due to streaming services like netflix etc. As each of these telecom companies need to manage their bottom line you can bet that they start looking to monitor the usage of their customers and look to make up for the loss from their other lines of business through new pricing products and services.

It's the practice of a company that manages the shift in consumer behaviour. If you want unlimited bandwidth, then you should expect that the ISP will increase their pricing for those type of services as well.
This may be true, but I don't agree with such practices. That's a terrible excuse, particularly if you look at Asia and Europe, where their network is far more congested, but can deliver 1GBps, unlimited bandwidth for $30 per month. Heck, I think most of us would pay for that even if it cost $60/month here.
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If you guys are sharing bandwidth with 6 people at home... Maybe it's not asking for much to fork out $2.50 each/month to get the unlimited package... lol.


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It doesn't cost much money to upgrade or maintain a ISP network. It cost the ISP 1 cent to deliver 1GB of data across their network these days (and that takes in account of all the expenses associated).


This may be true, but I don't agree with such practices. That's a terrible excuse, particularly if you look at Asia and Europe, where their network is far more congested, but can deliver 1GBps, unlimited bandwidth for $30 per month. Heck, I think most of us would pay for that even if it cost $60/month here.
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Just a heads up, Optik TV doesn't count for data. I have a 150GB cap so I just PVR all the shows I want to watch.

I don't stream youtube in HD anymore. Doesn't really bother me. Last month I was 4GB under my cap.

On the flip side, internet and 'cable'/optik have been very steady.
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Just a heads up, Optik TV doesn't count for data. I have a 150GB cap so I just PVR all the shows I want to watch.

I don't stream youtube in HD anymore. Doesn't really bother me. Last month I was 4GB under my cap.

On the flip side, internet and 'cable'/optik have been very steady.
Correct and to be more specific Netflix app or any apps on OPTIKTV do count as data
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So the fucked up the thing is TV internet cap is combined.

My home, mom and dad do mostly tv watching and they exceeded the cap.

IMO that is not fair
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Just a heads up, Optik TV doesn't count for data. I have a 150GB cap so I just PVR all the shows I want to watch.

I don't stream youtube in HD anymore. Doesn't really bother me. Last month I was 4GB under my cap.

On the flip side, internet and 'cable'/optik have been very steady.
So your ISP is forcing you to chang how you use the internet. That is just crap.
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can i ask what the fuck you guys are downloading to use up 200-500gigs a month?

porn. duh.

but everything is huge these days. I just downloaded win10 upgrade for my phone, and that was already 1.5gb ... and another version is coming out in a week .. that'll be 3 gb just for updating OS on my phone.

my steam folder is something like 1tb. I have everything set to autopatch. everytime I turn on my damn ps3 it takes hours to update -- I'm guessing multiple gb of updates ...
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U realize a good chunk of that is going towards Telus Garden, which has zero impact on end consumers Internet data speed and use of bandwidth right?

Also, the article indicates that Telus is also trying to bring the world's fastest speeds.. What does that even mean without a figure? It means nothing.

Unless they have all the specifics written down. The article means nothing but attempting to boast its image.

Edit: article was taken from Telus. I think that's pretty self explanatory.

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I rarely download any torrents, capped my usage from strictly using Netflix, damn that thing can eat up a lot of data
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netflix gives you the best quality based on your current internet speeds.
try changing that setting
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My cell phone company never used the word unlimited multiple times when I signed up, Shaw did.

Some one needs to design a program that will eat up all the bandwith you have left over each month.
thats interesting, when was this? growing up with dial up, ive always known there was somewhat of a limit to access the internet. from how many hours u get with dial up each month, to how much bandwidth u get with broadband.
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Ever wonder why 4K videos have had such a SLOW adoption and will likely not come to fruition over 1080P?

One 4K stream on Youtube requires a 25Mbps downstream. The average internet speed (both urban and rural in Canada) is half of that speed. Rural Canada is even more ridiculous, their average speed is like 1.5Mbps.

The US is pushing their internet speed to 25Mbps by 2019 as a national standard (which is still pretty damn sad on a global scale). Guess what our federal government is aiming for?

5Mbps by 2019.

While the rest of the world has already exceeded 100Mbps and hitting 1Gbps in most developed countries. Don't think of this in small means such as being able to stream 4K, or download slightly faster. This will have detrimental affects on technological innovations in Canada in the long-term. This will be the downfall of our tech economy in the long run due to our government's shortsightedness.

On a consumer-level, this is also one of the reasons why we are being gouged left and right, as our telecommunication sector is virtually closed, without any foreign investments, and government's lack of care to invest in infrastructure.

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If you guys are sharing bandwidth with 6 people at home... Maybe it's not asking for much to fork out $2.50 each/month to get the unlimited package... lol.




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thats nice but only the account holder will get that notice. and then the account holder will have to tell everyone in the household.

for the less savvy person, they wouldn't have the slightest clue on how much data they have left. i guess its just easier to tell everyone to chip in more per month if thats the case
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if you live under that household you can be added to the notification e-mail list, doesn't have to be account holder AFAIK

i'm gonna have a real first world problem between june and august when they bring back student promo...my 8tb drive just came in so brb while i dl 240GB/day for the month of may
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Ever wonder why 4K videos have had such a SLOW adoption and will likely not come to fruition over 1080P?

One 4K stream on Youtube requires a 25Mbps downstream. The average internet speed (both urban and rural in Canada) is half of that speed. Rural Canada is even more ridiculous, their average speed is like 1.5Mbps.

The US is pushing their internet speed to 25Mbps by 2019 as a national standard (which is still pretty damn sad on a global scale). Guess what our federal government is aiming for?

5Mbps by 2019.

While the rest of the world has already exceeded 100Mbps and hitting 1Gbps in most developed countries. Don't think of this in small means such as being able to stream 4K, or download slightly faster. This will have detrimental affects on technological innovations in Canada in the long-term. This will be the downfall of our tech economy in the long run due to our government's shortsightedness.

On a consumer-level, this is also one of the reasons why we are being gouged left and right, as our telecommunication sector is virtually closed, without any foreign investments, and government's lack of care to invest in infrastructure.

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Do you know how much it cost just to lay fiber? Is a lot more than you think also Canada is a pretty big country unlike some of the places like Asian (HK, China, Japan).
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Do you know how much it cost just to lay fiber? Is a lot more than you think also Canada is a pretty big country unlike some of the places like Asian (HK, China, Japan).
Most of the major cities in Canada are already laid out with fiber (Fiber-To-The-Node). Only issue is telecommunication companies are too cheap (and lacking a standard from the federal government - read the article above) to lay out the "last mile".

Correct me if I am wrong, but you work for Novus, so I understand your opinion may be bias.

The cost of fiber cable has been coming down in price tremendously in the last decade. There's absolutely no reason why our internet speed is slower than countries like Nigeria and Uganda. This is how pathetic and embarrassing of a state we are in.

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