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Old 08-10-2015, 09:48 PM   #51
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Problem is with beta testing, is that it is probably just for beta testing. I doubt they look at the beta testers and call it a good enough sample for the entire network of users to determine what the correct distance base system would be. Right now, at least they can say that over 90% of users only use transit for one zone.

What is the correct number to determine the distance base system? I think that is a hard number to agree on. Because most users only travel the system on one zone, do they determine calculation base on a one zone fare? Then how do you measure going two zones? Now that the add fare is 1.25 more (for a two zone), how do you measure "two zones" based on distance and how do you implement that into pricing of the distance base system?

Surely its a number they don't want lower than what they make now, but not so high so that there will be another outcry. People think that with distance based system, the fare should be cheaper. Yet they obviously still need to break even/profit from the number they use.

The whole forgetting the tap out part is non-excusable. It is said many times that the user will be charged the full 3 zones at the moment. But what is the full "3 zone" fare when distance base comes?

Not that I am siding with Translink here, but there is much more data that needs to be analyzed and much more work needed than what meets the eye. What works for London may not work for here.

I also think that there might be another one or two more systems other than London that Cubic have worked on.
uh wtf? there will be no "zones" when the distance structured fare comes into play.
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Alright, care to explain how it is then?
Curious as well, I've bid on Translink contracts before and it's exactly how you described it, no different then any other project really. Once they decide where the money is going to come from they push forward with the project and put it out for tender. It could be different with the fair system I've only been involved with construction but I'm curious how they decided who to go with as well.
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uh wtf? there will be no "zones" when the distance structured fare comes into play.
the zones are in quotes for a reason. they need to take in consideration what the current zone fare is and how that will translate into the distance based system for fare payment.

and its in response to zn6 "charge full zones". how do you put a price on a "full zone" charge based on distance? if the current 3 zones is $5.00, then will the "full zone" charge be $5.00 for the full distance charge?

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What I wanted to know when will I be able to purchase compass when Oct comes. Just having 15 London Drugs isn't good enough.http://www.translink.ca/en/Fares-and...-Timeline.aspx
when they say vending machine do they mean the vending machines at different skytrain station that spits out tickets will now or will there be new vending machines if so where?
We can purchase the compass online but how long will it take before it will mail out to us? 4 to 6 weeks? Do we pay online every month or we do we go to those vending machines to or pay at a vendor?
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Curious as well, I've bid on Translink contracts before and it's exactly how you described it, no different then any other project really. Once they decide where the money is going to come from they push forward with the project and put it out for tender. It could be different with the fair system I've only been involved with construction but I'm curious how they decided who to go with as well.
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What I wanted to know when will I be able to purchase compass when Oct comes. Just having 15 London Drugs isn't good enough.http://www.translink.ca/en/Fares-and...-Timeline.aspx
when they say vending machine do they mean the vending machines at different skytrain station that spits out tickets will now or will there be new vending machines if so where?
We can purchase the compass online but how long will it take before it will mail out to us? 4 to 6 weeks? Do we pay online every month or we do we go to those vending machines to or pay at a vendor?
the current (old) skytrain vending machines do not spit out any compass related products. there are new vending machines (now called compass vending machines) that spit out compass tickets (single use). the old machines will be replaced by newer machines. there are also new compass vending machines that will spit out compass cards (starting november).

in terms of buying online, i do not know how it gets delivered. it makes more sense to just drop by a skytrain station or stadium station to just buy the card. you can use the machines or online to load up the card whenever you want. i am assuming now that you can also sign up for a monthly top up option. in terms of vendor, i am also assuming you can load up at stadium station where there is an office there.
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I just think that hiring Cubic to implement the system was giant mistake. We should have given the contract out to a company that has a working system in metropolis cities like Hong Kong, London, or Seoul.
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That's not how it works. Companies don't just 'give out' contracts on a publicly funded project.
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Bids are submitted and translink chooses which company receives the contract.

Or is this not how it is?
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nabs...

nabs is correct, from my understanding as a public sector employee who has been involved in quite a few projects. I'd love to elaborate more, but I'm not sure what I'm at liberty to say on a public forum.
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they probably doing this because people are using zone 1 tickets from east van commuting to richmond :LOL:
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^same with people taking busses like #19 from Vancouver to metrotown. I doubt they check fares once the bus crosses Boundary Rd.
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