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Old 08-30-2015, 02:27 AM   #26
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Rotating the parking spots is the problem... may as well buy a warehouse for 120k and stealthily live in a micro trailer house that way.
??Small warehouse - Port Kells - For Sale??

how is that a problem? its not hard to relocate once a day or heck, even once a week. your odds of being found by a by law officer is pretty much zilch unless someone complains.

there's SO many spots open.
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Most do, but if you mortgage $100k of the mobile home and pay $400/mo pad rental you're still under a grand a mnth for a decent sized place with a yard and driveway.
Its too far away to be paying so much in fees a month.

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Or you could just buy a boat and live in any marina. My mother and stepfather did this in the 90s. The neighbors were akin to people who would live in a trailer park, but some might be considered a bit "fancier-types" if they live in a nice sailboat and actually travel in it.

I don't know how much marina docking fees + electricity would cost for a boat these days... But it was considered cheap back then and if you want to move you just go to a different marina or shipyard!
From word of mouth I hear its $450 to dock in Richmond... and upwards to 1500K a month in Vancouver. Plus theres always a fear of drowsing in the back of your mind.

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If you train all the fish to swim in circles you could create a whirlpool which would turn a generator to make electricity.
Then you'd really have everything!
Ideally a geothermal setup of naturally circulating water (due change of temperature when water reaches the surface) might have enough streaming power to generate some.

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how is that a problem? its not hard to relocate once a day or heck, even once a week. your odds of being found by a by law officer is pretty much zilch unless someone complains.

there's SO many spots open.
Well technically you could even live in Vancouver neighbourhoods like that... one can park on these streets for 72 hours.
But a stationary solution is needed... I think the following is probably best. edit- but rather sub-renting then buying a house.
http://minimotives.com/2014/06/25/wh...-a-tiny-house/


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If you have lots of money and really want to save, I remember seeing a post on Reddit... correct me if I'm wrong or you have the link I'm just making this up from my selective memory...

The guy had a house with a huge lot, built a concrete bunker in the back near the woods with power and water... sold the house and continued to live in the bunker without the owners knowing. Creepy + thrifty
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well the whole point of buying an RV is so that a stationary solution is not needed. its mobile for a reason.
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There is stress involved that way.
Youre better off using your social engineering skills in finding a landlord that is willing to supply you with internet, water, sewage and metered electricity for like $300 a month. Thats $3600 a year.

I just designed this legal (no permit needed) shed/road trailer. What makes it really great is the sliding (100 skate bearings) compartment which would connect to the back of the van when stationary... making for a continuous open space. Inside the house theres a ladder leading up to a top level bed and the outside uses cheap vacuum formed plastic panels wrapping the cheap plywood CNC'd structure with its strong skeletal walls and insulation in between. A 10K Sprinter van, used RV equipment, and the trailer setup should be all under $25k. (not including the CNC machine\work)


Heres one open source WIKI-house design thats being used.
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Throw one of these 4k CNC kits inside a $500 cargo van and youre good to go in starting a positive community business.


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If you have lots of money and really want to save, I remember seeing a post on Reddit... correct me if I'm wrong or you have the link I'm just making this up from my selective memory...

The guy had a house with a huge lot, built a concrete bunker in the back near the woods with power and water... sold the house and continued to live in the bunker without the owners knowing. Creepy + thrifty
Wow, I'll have to read that up some day.
Checkout this guys underground barrel house. It would be nice to set one up in Stanely Park
http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/500-f...ouse+Design%29
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A lot of my coworkers in HK Live on luxury yachts moored somewhere for 1/2 the price of your average flat in hong Kong. in addition to getting a living space of a couple thousand sqft, you also avoid the stamp duty and property taxes.
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How is this any different then all the people that buy a house and add suites for rental income at least to some extent? I guess my point is it's not really a fresh idea it's done all the time except most people prefer to not live in a van down by the river or a trailer in their back yard they stay in part of the house.
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A lot of my coworkers in HK Live on luxury yachts moored somewhere for 1/2 the price of your average flat in hong Kong. in addition to getting a living space of a couple thousand sqft, you also avoid the stamp duty and property taxes.
Seems like the more money one has the more loop holes you go through.
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Plenty of people are doing the RV thing already in Vancouver.. just drive to Glen Drive and Terminal Streetview for fun and giggles . Once a while you see them fight for the space underneath the bridge or even Spanish Banks. Again, none of your schemes solve the "land" part of the housing issue. In fact I would argue, since your concepts are all 1 story and can't scale up (literally).. you solutions will exacerbate the problem.

I depends on what kind of CNC you are doing.. I definitely don't want have to calibrate a CNC every time I move the truck around.

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Youre better off using your social engineering skills in finding a landlord that is willing to supply you with internet, water, sewage and metered electricity for like $300 a month. Thats $3600 a year.

I just designed this legal (no permit needed) shed/road trailer. What makes it really great is the sliding (100 skate bearings) compartment which would connect to the back of the van when stationary... making for a continuous open space. Inside the house theres a ladder leading up to a top level bed and the outside uses cheap vacuum formed plastic panels wrapping the cheap plywood CNC'd structure with its strong skeletal walls and insulation in between. A 10K Sprinter van, used RV equipment, and the trailer setup should be all under $25k. (not including the CNC machine\work)

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Plenty of people are doing the RV thing already in Vancouver.. just drive to Glen Drive and Terminal Streetview for fun and giggles . Once a while you see them fight for the space underneath the bridge or even Spanish Banks.
Note that regular RV's arent insulated like a house and are not safe... people living like in those old camper conversions make this idea to look ugly.
For 2-3 night times I took my generator and angle grinder to that road to cut a hole in a metal keg I was planning to use as a wood stove oven for my van. The police rolled by once and luckily I wasnt hacking away at that moment.

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Again, none of your schemes solve the "land" part of the housing issue..
You'll have to elaborate... maybe your next comment will answer it.

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In fact I would argue, since your concepts are all 1 story and can't scale up (literally).. you solutions will exacerbate the problem.
Sure you can make it two story... I dont see how it would exacerbate the problem or to what extent youre thinking of.

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I depends on what kind of CNC you are doing.. I definitely don't want have to calibrate a CNC every time I move the truck around.
The cargo van is meant to replace having a need for a workshop.


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Throw one of these 4k CNC kits inside a $500 cargo van and youre good to go in starting a positive community business.

You can buy a 4 x8 foot CNC machine for $4000? Tell me where because I will buy one right now. I'm 100% serous.
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Its a kit you assemble. It should even come with videos... see the makers website.
Price: US $3,499.00
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Thats nothing like the one in your pic. Also thats US pricing plus $600 shipping and then you need a computer, Router, bits, dust collector, software and you still have to assemble it. You are looking at over $8000 all said and done. I would go with 2 computers so you can design while the machine cuts. Also lets not forget all the power your going to need to run it all.
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The wooden one is no where as robust as the metal one in his original pic. I am more curious how he will power the metal one in a Sprinter van.. ie how can he generate 3 phase 220V. Maybe he also consider physics a conspiracy theory too.

I still don't see what the big deal of having a CNC mill in ones back yard or worse at a back of a van, with the advent of protolabs and similar outfits. No dust / no muck and got my parts to me in 48 hours. Not to mention they use the latest Haas to do the work.

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Thats nothing like the one in your pic. Also thats US pricing plus $600 shipping and then you need a computer, Router, bits, dust collector, software and you still have to assemble it. You are looking at over $8000 all said and done. I would go with 2 computers so you can design while the machine cuts. Also lets not forget all the power your going to need to run it all.
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Thats nothing like the one in your pic. Also thats US pricing plus $600 shipping and then you need a computer, Router, bits, dust collector, software and you still have to assemble it. You are looking at over $8000 all said and done. I would go with 2 computers so you can design while the machine cuts. Also lets not forget all the power your going to need to run it all.
$300 for everything you mentioned (including a wood bit) and who doesnt have a computer and skills to download pirate ware?
Without delivery and exchange calculated it equals $3500 + $300.
I own a large CNC machine, built from scratch so I know what Im talking about.


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I am more curious how he will power the metal one in a Sprinter van.. ie how can he generate 3 phase 220V. Maybe he also consider physics a conspiracy theory too.
You dont need strong motors to cut plywood... and just because the workshop is in a van doesnt mean you cant connect an extension cord to it. The more you know.

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I still don't see what the big deal of having a CNC mill in ones back yard or worse at a back of a van, with the advent of protolabs and similar outfits. No dust / no muck and got my parts to me in 48 hours. Not to mention they use the latest Haas to do the work.
If you are all about saving money then you'd buy a kit, do all your cutting (maybe make more houses and even start a business), and resell your machine for a profit seeing its assembled and ready to go.
Im betting that kind of service would cost $500 to $1000.
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$300 for everything you mentioned (including a wood bit) and who doesnt have a computer and skills to download pirate ware?
Without delivery and exchange calculated it equals $3500 + $300.
I own a large CNC machine, built from scratch so I know what Im talking about.

What about dust collection?

That's still over 6 grand Canadian without dust collection. Also that kits known to have problems.
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You simply use a vacuum hose over the drill.

So you added $2200 for currency conversion and delivery?
There are cheaper assembled sources from China
Shop 4x8 cnc machine online - Buy 4x8 cnc machine for unbeatable low prices on AliExpress.com

If youre ambitious enough you could build one for $1500.
Lastly I dont believe the Blackfoot CNC has problems.
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You simply use a vacuum hose over the drill.

So you added $2200 for currency conversion and delivery?
There are cheaper assembled sources from China
Shop 4x8 cnc machine online - Buy 4x8 cnc machine for unbeatable low prices on AliExpress.com

If youre ambitious enough you could build one for $1500.
Lastly I dont believe the Blackfoot CNC has problems.
I am including shipping. also your like shows this:

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So you added $2200 for currency conversion and delivery?
$3800 USD x 1.32 [USD to CAD] x 1.12 [duty] = $5600 + shipping, and then you're still missing half the pieces needed to build a hobby grade machine, I doubt that would stand up to commercial use.
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Heres one.for $2700 usd
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$3800 USD x 1.32 [USD to CAD] x 1.12 [duty] = $5600 + shipping, and then you're still missing half the pieces needed to build a hobby grade machine, I doubt that would stand up to commercial use.
The point is making CNC houses plus replacement parts are extremely cheaper then general machines. So this fits the job coming from someone who has experience in CNC machines.

Cost of CNC
$3200x1.32= $4224 CDN
https://buildyourcnc.com/blackFoot48v40.aspx

Shipping, $4224+$778[590x1.32]=$5002 CDN
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So were at $5002 not including the duty cost... how did you come up with that rate? edit - Wood CNC machines made in the US maybe FTA's (Free trade area)
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search the following key phrase and limit the price settings from $2000 to $3000
4x8 cnc machine

Heres one.for $2700 usd
jinan china!!!cnc router 1218/4x8 ft cnc router/milling machine/customered machines!!!-in Wood Router from Industry & Business on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
And shipping is
US $16.57 to
Canada via China Post Registered Air Mail

You think that seems right? LOL.
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This is why I initially didnt post those machines because you have to do your homework and see how legit they are.
I think the Alibaba verified companies should be good.
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