Beating the rat race by living in a boat... inside a swimming pool?

[underscore]

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge

Cost of CNC
$3200x1.32= $4224 CDN
https://buildyourcnc.com/blackFoot48v40.aspx

Shipping, $4224+$778[590x1.32]=$5002 CDN

Spoiler!

So were at $5002 not including the duty cost... how did you come up with that rate? edit - Wood CNC machines made in the US maybe FTA's (Free trade area)

You keep jumping from Chinese made products to supposedly US made ones, I doubt all the components are US made though so I'm not sure how that will affect duty. You're only looking at the base machine though, with the other pieces you need it's $4000 USD and you still need a router ($200-400USD), cooling system, table, and motor cable, so you're getting near $5000 USD all said and done. After conversion and shipping you're pushing $7k CAD before any possible duty.

[CharlesInCharge]

Originally Posted by underscore

You keep jumping from Chinese made products to supposedly US made ones, I doubt all the components are US made though so I'm not sure how that will affect duty. You're only looking at the base machine though, with the other pieces you need it's $4000 USD and you still need a router ($200-400USD), cooling system, table, and motor cable, so you're getting near $5000 USD all said and done. After conversion and shipping you're pushing $7k CAD before any possible duty.

Routers are under $100 in Craiglist.. you dont need a cooling system, table or motor cable. 5K plus $300 is the cost so far for the US kit.
Ive built 2 CNC machines from scratch, what experience do you have to be quoting these big numbers?

[underscore]

That's all right off the website you posted, if you actually read the page.

[CharlesInCharge]

Well youre clearly misinterpreting it and making points with no experience.

[GLOW]

your 3D van pic reminded me a bit of this:

[underscore]

What do I need to purchase additionally to have a fully running system?

You will need to construct a table for the machine itself. You will also need to purchase your desired length of 4 conductor motor cable. The recommended length of cable for the blackFoot is 50 feet. If you are purchasing a 2.2KW Spindle with Inverter, you will need a water cooling system. This is a simple system using silicon tubing, a water pump and a 5 gallon bucket like you would purchase at a hardware store. The silicon tube and water pump are both available for purchase on our website. You will also need a computer with software to run the machine. If you are interested in having a computer built for you, please checkout our CNC Computer section as we provide this service. Computer CNC Systems built by us only require a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to be added additionally. You can also add cable carrier for cable management if you wish.

Parts not included:
Computer (Personal Preference)
Software (Personal Preference)
Router (Personal Preference although I recommend Porter Cable 2.25 HP 892 or 3.25 HP 7518)
Table

Even if you knock out the table, cooling and cable you're still at $6k CDN + shipping and possible duty, a far cry from the $3200 you came up with earlier.

[CharlesInCharge]

Why are you throwing out stupid numbers without tallying up the prices like I did.
Are you going to spam another post without showing where you get these numbers from?

Also you can make one for $1500, how do you like that?

2 story WikiHouse

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[melloman]

Wait, is CiC trying to do this LOCALLY?
Cheapest way would be a house boat, and reno it. You can find LOTS for dirt cheap in Queensborough.

PS. What stops someone from buying a plot of land say in Northern BC and living off the land? Didn't know there were laws against this..

[CharlesInCharge]

Looks like these house boats have whats called a moorage fee... one was 700+, the other $1000.
I dont know about remote location zoning laws but I'd personally hate to live away from city life.

My CNC isnt large enough to try a micro house but members here should pull our resources together and start making legal 8x12 foot shed for peoples backyards. These could be used as living spaces as long as neighbours arent bothered.

[underscore]

Prices are again from the page you posted, what I'm confused by is why you would even bother considering a premade kit if you can supposedly DIY one so cheaply. Given that you already have a CNC I assume you could make the framework that supplier is selling and just order the rest of the components they would've supplied separately.

And now that I think about it, before you jump to sheds and houses, why not start out selling effectively the same kit being sold in the US? With the current dollar there's probably a market for them up here.

Originally Posted by melloman

Wait, is CiC trying to do this LOCALLY?
Cheapest way would be a house boat, and reno it. You can find LOTS for dirt cheap in Queensborough.

PS. What stops someone from buying a plot of land say in Northern BC and living off the land? Didn't know there were laws against this..

Back to the topic at hand, I believe the key point is doing it within reasonable proximity to Vancouver. Assuming CiC is interested in the challenge of pulling something like this off, just moving to a cheaper part of the world is sort of cheating.

[CharlesInCharge]

Originally Posted by underscore

Prices are again from the page you posted.

This post sets the prices... but you like to post big numbers without showing how you got them.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/70509...ml#post8676406

Originally Posted by underscore

what I'm confused by is why you would even bother considering a premade kit if you can supposedly DIY one so cheaply. Given that you already have a CNC I assume you could make the framework that supplier is selling and just order the rest of the components they would've supplied separately.

I dont think they'd sell parts separately plus youd still have to play around and figure out the supports. Personally I dont have the time and space to make this... Im using my CNC to first make car designs.

Originally Posted by underscore

And now that I think about it, before you jump to sheds and houses, why not start out selling effectively the same kit being sold in the US? With the current dollar there's probably a market for them up here..

I might make 10 times more profit with cars then houses.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge

I dont think they'd sell parts separately plus youd still have to play around and figure out the supports. Personally I dont have the time and space to make this... Im using my CNC to first make car designs.

You don't order the parts from them, just order one kit to get the list of parts and then find your own supplier.

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge

This post sets the prices... but you like to post big numbers without showing how you got them.
http://www.revscene.net/forums/70509...ml#post8676406

I dont think they'd sell parts separately plus youd still have to play around and figure out the supports. Personally I dont have the time and space to make this... Im using my CNC to first make car designs.

I might make 10 times more profit with cars then houses.

10 times more making cars LOL and talk about wrong tool for the job.

[Phil@rise]

I didnt even bother to waste my time reading three pages of CiC crap I'm just here to respond to the original post.
Do you ever have an in the box idea? Or are you always out of the box? Like waaay the fuck out lol!

[CharlesInCharge]

For self sustained food, one can breed fish, use its poop to fertile the surrounding land, and grow crops to regenerate another cycle. But no... not in occupied Canada... being a Canadian in this vast land means you have to be a debt slave for any kind of decent life.

[SoNaRWaVe]

yet you're still here....

why haven't you left already then if this is such a burden for you?

[CharlesInCharge]

Im waiting to get compensated by our ZioAmerican run country for bombing my city and for me to be a refugee here.

[SoNaRWaVe]

good luck with that with the current refugee haitus lol