Electric and Hybrid Car Thread

[Manic!]

Sister owns a model Y. Lives in Vancouver. Works in Squamish But has to go to different schools in the district including whistler. She has no problems. Saves $800 to $1000 in gas a month.

[JDMDreams]

^ AWD?

[RabidRat]

When the fuck did "self-charging hybrid" become a thing? Came across this reading about the Lexus LBX.

https://www.lexus.eu/new-cars/lbx

...what hybrid is not self-charging?? And what does it even mean when comparing it to a plug-in hybrid, which is also self-charging?!

The explanation from Lexus is even more of a mind-fuck.
https://www.lexus.co.uk/hybrid/how-hybrid-works

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

^ AWD?

yep. long range.

[68style]

Fuck I'd kill myself if I had to drive from Van to Squamish or Whistler for work... that's not saving $ that's just being obtuse and suffering due to refusal to relocate.

Good for her for making her vehicle work for this particular situation and being one of the only people in the lower mainland that can ACTUALLY justify the cost offset.

[jcmaz]

The marketing of a self charging hybrid is probably used to educate folks the differences between a tradition hybrid vehicle and a plug-in hybrid. I have a feeling the older folks don't quite understand the difference between the two.

[68style]

Trust me they don't, I order fleet vehicles for work and 8/10 people I buy hybrids for think they have to plug them in or ask for confirmation that they don't have to.....................

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Manic!

Sister owns a model Y. Lives in Vancouver. Works in Squamish But has to go to different schools in the district including whistler. She has no problems. Saves $800 to $1000 in gas a month.

If she was driving what? An F350?

A buddy of mine has a long range Y in Toronto, basic use he uses transit to get to work etc.

His report from Tesla came back and it said he saved like $2800 in gas in a year. So of course someone like you will always use the most extreme example to justify it

[bcrdukes]

Your buddy missed he memo that the TTC means Take The Car!

[JDMDreams]

If I worked out of van I would just sell or rent out the van place and get someone further out where I work. Save the$ and commute, win win, I'm sure driving in and out of whistler Squamish daily is pretty sketch in the winter.

[Badhobz]

i thought your family has $$$????? why would she not move out to squeamish instead of spending half her life driving up and down that treacherous highway?

this is about as lame of a justification as your st George parents dropping their kids off in Teslas who also happen to own private jets and hockey teams.

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

If she was driving what? An F350?

A buddy of mine has a long range Y in Toronto, basic use he uses transit to get to work etc.

His report from Tesla came back and it said he saved like $2800 in gas in a year. So of course someone like you will always use the most extreme example to justify it

It sounds about right. And actually at 800-1000 a month her previous car was already not extremely bad on gas. We drive a X3 as our school bus and we put in 110-120 a tank depending on gas prices. We get about 430km a tank. On the highway we can get about 600km.

The commute from Metrotown to Squamish is 75.9km. Let's make it a tidy 75km one way and 150 highway km everyday since I don't know where they live. On a X3 or equivalent vehicle would mean one tank every 4 days. 20 workdays a month would put it at around 5 tanks just for commute. That's right around $600 a month just for commuting without counting any leisure or errands. For a X3 with that kind of commute $800 a month is about reasonable. If she had a Corolla or any other econobox she'd have saved less. Life is not that perfect and she'd get less than 600km a tank imo.

[tegra7]

Originally Posted by EvoFire

Does Tesla have a battery warming function you turn on? Or does it do it when you precondition the car on the plug? Your coworker probably doesn't know to do that before hand? It's unfortunately part of the EV life.

You can schedule preheat through the app. I wonder if the old man has it set on his app without knowing. Although preheat function will turn itself off eventually, having it on for 1hr + will drain the battery quite a bit if you're not plugged in. Tesla recommends to plug in whenever you can, even if the car doesn't need a charge. We need more deets on what the fuck the old man with the y is doing to get 80km per charge. I left Delta with an 80% charge drove to Fort Langley and back using 20% battery, and this is with heat on blast and winter tires.

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by tegra7

You can schedule preheat through the app. I wonder if the old man has it set on his app without knowing. Although preheat function will turn itself off eventually, having it on for 1hr + will drain the battery quite a bit if you're not plugged in. Tesla recommends to plug in whenever you can, even if the car doesn't need a charge. We need more deets on what the fuck the old man with the y is doing to get 80km per charge. I left Delta with an 80% charge drove to Fort Langley and back using 20% battery, and this is with heat on blast and winter tires.

Old Chinese dude doing old Chinese dude things. If it works then they don't bother to try and figure things out or poke around. I'm guilty of said problem sometimes, if it works don't touch it, like that pile of car parts in the corner of the garage

[bcrdukes]

I'm guilty as charged.

[Badhobz]

Hey maybe he watches a lot of youPorn along the way while jerking it. Who knows. He bought the automation package. I’m like why ?! He’s like I don’t even wanna drive.

[JDMDreams]

Given how shit Vancouver traffic is there's no way anyone is getting highway mpg. I've been tracking my consumption and I've always been getting the lower end city traffic rating if not worse. And I do quite a bit of highway, idling in traffic kills mpgs, let alone sitting in snow with the heat on. And I think winter gas doesn't help either.

And yes pre heat really seems to help as even with the cold weather lately estimated range didn't drop much, I would say less than 10% in Reduction.

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

Given how shit Vancouver traffic is there's no way anyone is getting highway mpg. I've been tracking my consumption and I've always been getting the lower end city traffic rating if not worse. And I do quite a bit of highway, idling in traffic kills mpgs, let alone sitting in snow with the heat on. And I think winter gas doesn't help either.

And yes pre heat really seems to help as even with the cold weather lately estimated range didn't drop much, I would say less than 10% in Reduction.

It's not just traffic but also the hills.

[Hondaracer]

For as smart as Tesla is, it seems very odd they don’t have a way to factor in hills for their battery consumption information

Like Tesla hasn’t harvested enough data to say driving the coquihala from hope to Kamloops will take an extra 15%?

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

i thought your family has $$$????? why would she not move out to squeamish instead of spending half her life driving up and down that treacherous highway?

this is about as lame of a justification as your st George parents dropping their kids off in Teslas who also happen to own private jets and hockey teams.

Because the rest of the family works and goes to school in the lower mainland.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

For as smart as Tesla is, it seems very odd they don’t have a way to factor in hills for their battery consumption information

Like Tesla hasn’t harvested enough data to say driving the coquihala from hope to Kamloops will take an extra 15%?

It does. Anything from temperature, hill and even wind direction and speed. It has been very accurate. Maybe 1-2% + or -, but that depends on the speed I’m driving rather than the system being inaccurate. Never have I worried about not making it to the charger if Tesla calculated the route.

Range anxiety might be a thing on road trip for other EV owners, but not Tesla. The accuracy just got better and better throughout the 5yrs of ownership.

The problem with my model 3 is that it’s on an older system with resistive heating. Heating uses huge amount of energy. ICE don’t feel this because most of their gas just evaporates as heat. The system only needs to capture a small portion of it and you’ve got heat for the car. But on newer Tesla such as my Plaid, the difference is minimal as the heat pump is really super efficient. But even then, it would never be 0 as the heat needs to come from somewhere in -20 weather.

[Doubl3_H]

With the low temp the horn seemed to be affected, it's not as loud. Anyone else have issues with their horn?

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by Doubl3_H

With the low temp the horn seemed to be affected, it's not as loud. Anyone else have issues with their horn?

The signals on our X3 sounded funny during the -10C temperatures. Almost as if the speaker froze and it was super hollow.

[tegra7]

^Check your horn and blinker fluid.

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by tegra7

^Check your horn and blinker fluid.

It's a BMW, what blinker